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Poker Dots.

77 replies

Pieceofpurplesky · 07/05/2026 15:12

Driving me mad all over the internet - women in their poker dot dresses.
Polka. It's POLKA.
Rant over.

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namechangingeasy · 10/05/2026 07:49

It seems that there is regional variation. Google brought up a YouTube video with Polka pronounced with and without l

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https://youtu.be/SS1YiJgOwt8?si=j5s_3MZeRVcfq_7M

Topseyt123 · 10/05/2026 08:35

midJulytarget · 09/05/2026 09:15

Kate Princess of Middleton wore a poLka dot skirt yesterday - she must be on here and sending us a sign! Hi Kate!!

Edited

There is no "Kate Princess of Middleton." Where did that come from? She is Catherine, Princess of Wales.

@BootMaker is definitely either on a wind up or is intent on embarrassing themselves by arguing black is white.

It's POLKA dots. It is not pronounced as an "oh" and the "l" is most certainly NOT silent. POKER has an entirely different meaning, whether spoken or written.

Topseyt123 · 10/05/2026 08:38

BootMaker · 08/05/2026 23:57

No need to cringe. Polka is largely pronounced poker in UK English.

Poker dots.

No. It definitely isn't pronounced poker in UK English at all. Stop trying to argue black is white!

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 08:44

Qualitypinnacle · 08/05/2026 23:12

Esme on the sewing bee says crutch, and it's what I used to hear as a child

Me too. I'm Scottish and not sure that makes a difference though. I have always suffered from being long from the hip to the shoulder and then having wee short legs, and my mother used to go on all the time about how things would not "fit me around the crutch".

Polker/Poker dots is partly ignorance, and partly the accent which turns the -a sound into -er. I'd say "Hannah, pass me the spanner" and Hannah and spanner wouldn't rhyme. But in many accents they would. So people hear "polker" not "polka" and assume it's something to do with the card game.

Kitt1 · 10/05/2026 08:53

Esme is clearly wrong. It is definitely CROTCH. Always has been and I’m in my 60’s. I love sewing and I cringe when I hear some numpty say crutch thinking they’re being polite. 😂

Also, it’s POLKA pronounced pol-Ker in my northern accent.

Fishneedscycle · 10/05/2026 08:54

One that is an understandable homophone as they are pronounced the same is ‘draw’ for ‘drawer.’ That must be because people have only heard the spoken word and never read it. Maybe the same people storing their poker dot clothes in their chest of draws!

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 08:57

One that is an understandable homophone as they are pronounced the same is ‘draw’ for ‘drawer.’

Again, not in every accent. I have an Edinburgh accent and would not pronounce those two the same. Draw has one syllable. Drawer has two.

RaraRachael · 10/05/2026 09:26

I'm Scottish and definitely pronounce the L in polka so it sounds nothing like poker.

When I was young the area of trousers was always said as crutch but everyone seems to say crotch nowadays.

Draw - one syllable
Drawer - 2 syllables with the r at the end pronounced

lifeisgoodrightnow · 10/05/2026 09:32

A post in my village Facebook page was referring to some local gossip as ‘heard on the bong goes’.

It’s my new favourite pedant phrase.

RitaIncognita · 10/05/2026 12:45

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 08:57

One that is an understandable homophone as they are pronounced the same is ‘draw’ for ‘drawer.’

Again, not in every accent. I have an Edinburgh accent and would not pronounce those two the same. Draw has one syllable. Drawer has two.

Same for me. Rhotic speakers, as are most Scots and most Americans, pronounce the final r in drawer so we would not make that mistake in writing the word.

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 13:08

I think those of us who do say Draw-er and Pol-kah completely understand that not everyone speaks like we do and people say things like Hanner instead of Hannah. What grinds our gears is the assertion that "British people" say X, or "the UK pronunciation" is Y.

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/05/2026 13:16

BootMaker · 08/05/2026 22:49

Where you be from?.

Crutch? For crotch? Older people?

I think 'older people' are as articulate as 'younger people' when it comes to misnomers.

You stick your head in Pedants' corner and make statements?

And pronounce polka dots as pol-ka dots...

Is the 'area' where it's pronounced poker everywhere?

I dunno.

It was Esme herself who said 'crutch' on Sewing Bee. Not just any 'older' person but a desginer who teaches fashion.

upinaballoon · 10/05/2026 14:41

Kitt1 · 10/05/2026 08:53

Esme is clearly wrong. It is definitely CROTCH. Always has been and I’m in my 60’s. I love sewing and I cringe when I hear some numpty say crutch thinking they’re being polite. 😂

Also, it’s POLKA pronounced pol-Ker in my northern accent.

Esme is not clearly wrong. It isn't definitely crotch. It doesn't matter whether someone says crutch or crotch. I can't think that anyone says crutch, thinking that they're being polite. It just depends on how that part of a garment was referred to when they were learning to sew. Esme isn't a numpty and neither are several others of us and you are rude.

upinaballoon · 10/05/2026 14:45

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 08:44

Me too. I'm Scottish and not sure that makes a difference though. I have always suffered from being long from the hip to the shoulder and then having wee short legs, and my mother used to go on all the time about how things would not "fit me around the crutch".

Polker/Poker dots is partly ignorance, and partly the accent which turns the -a sound into -er. I'd say "Hannah, pass me the spanner" and Hannah and spanner wouldn't rhyme. But in many accents they would. So people hear "polker" not "polka" and assume it's something to do with the card game.

I agree with you that I don't think it matters whether we say crutch or crotch. I don't think either is right or wrong.

PleasantPedant · 10/05/2026 18:04

TipsyLaird · 10/05/2026 08:57

One that is an understandable homophone as they are pronounced the same is ‘draw’ for ‘drawer.’

Again, not in every accent. I have an Edinburgh accent and would not pronounce those two the same. Draw has one syllable. Drawer has two.

I'm not from Edinburgh but drawer is draw-uh nor draw. .
Hannah ends in a like in cat, not uh.

Matcheroo · 11/05/2026 15:30

MissisBee · 09/05/2026 00:27

We definitely pronounce the L in polka in Northern Ireland. And the o sounds like "oh"
I'm going to make a very general assumption that it's the same in Scotland.

It’s the same in the south of Ireland too.
Pole-ka.

Greenandyellowday · 22/05/2026 20:33

BootMaker · 09/05/2026 00:01

Absolutely not! There's no L in polka. Don't be ridiculous.

Poh-ka.

Exactly. It's poh-ka, or poe-ka dots, not pole-ka or poll-ka.

Just as the nuts are ah-monds, not AL-monds. Oh heck, almonds are probably not real nuts at all, and this is Pedants' Corner... It's okay, I'm prepared for a roasting.

I'd only wear polka-dots under extreme duress, but if I absolutely had to (hostage situation involving forced pantomime, for example) I'd avoid the pronunciation issue by saying dotty or spotty.

One of my (many) pronunciation rages is the hard "G" in the middle of ringing, singing, bringing: ring-Ging, sing-Ging, brin-Ging all drive me nuts. Yes it's probably regional, but it's teeth-grindingly annoying to me.

There, instead of their or they're. Dose instead of does. We was, instead of we were. Should of instead of should have. All the usual suspects...

Pieceofpurplesky · 22/05/2026 21:04

Greenandyellowday · 22/05/2026 20:33

Exactly. It's poh-ka, or poe-ka dots, not pole-ka or poll-ka.

Just as the nuts are ah-monds, not AL-monds. Oh heck, almonds are probably not real nuts at all, and this is Pedants' Corner... It's okay, I'm prepared for a roasting.

I'd only wear polka-dots under extreme duress, but if I absolutely had to (hostage situation involving forced pantomime, for example) I'd avoid the pronunciation issue by saying dotty or spotty.

One of my (many) pronunciation rages is the hard "G" in the middle of ringing, singing, bringing: ring-Ging, sing-Ging, brin-Ging all drive me nuts. Yes it's probably regional, but it's teeth-grindingly annoying to me.

There, instead of their or they're. Dose instead of does. We was, instead of we were. Should of instead of should have. All the usual suspects...

In the UK it's POLKA

Poker Dots.
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Greenandyellowday · 22/05/2026 21:23

Pieceofpurplesky · 22/05/2026 21:04

In the UK it's POLKA

It's a class thing.

awfulapril · 22/05/2026 22:08

@BootMaker are you working class?

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 22/05/2026 22:18

Someone posted recently about why their in-law's house wasn't getting viewings.
A discussion ensued with one poster insisting it wasn't a house but a dorma bungalow.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 22/05/2026 22:24

You say the L whether you're talking about the spots or the dance. I thought poker dots was a regional thing said in places where they call shoulders 'showders', but it's obviously more common than I thought.

CheeseWisely · 22/05/2026 22:27

lifeisgoodrightnow · 10/05/2026 09:32

A post in my village Facebook page was referring to some local gossip as ‘heard on the bong goes’.

It’s my new favourite pedant phrase.

Honourable mention please for the Shezlong that was recently advertised on our local Marketplace.

upinaballoon · 22/05/2026 22:28

Greenandyellowday · 22/05/2026 21:23

It's a class thing.

I think it's more likely to be regional than class.

midJulytarget · 22/05/2026 22:51

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 22/05/2026 22:18

Someone posted recently about why their in-law's house wasn't getting viewings.
A discussion ensued with one poster insisting it wasn't a house but a dorma bungalow.

Mine is one of those. Are you pointing out it should be "dormer"? Both are from the latin dormire, to sleep. Potatoes potartoes