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Of of of of of of of of of of

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BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

OP posts:
wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 12:28

shuggles · 22/02/2026 12:17

@ItstoolateformeDaveyourselves I think it depends on accent. When I say it out loud they are exactly the same. But I do know that when written it is "should have" not "should of".

It can never sound the same, not in any accent. If you're pronouncing them the same, then it's because you are literally saying "should of" instead of "should've."

"Should've" and "should of" sound nothing alike.

'of' is often pronounced with a v sound.

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 12:30

TheDandyLion · 21/02/2026 21:23

You can add off of to that list too.

You're just too good to be true,
Can't keep my eyes off of you
Aaaargh!

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:38

wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 12:28

'of' is often pronounced with a v sound.

Isn't 'of' always pronounced with a v sound or it would be 'off'?

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:39

shuggles · 22/02/2026 12:17

@ItstoolateformeDaveyourselves I think it depends on accent. When I say it out loud they are exactly the same. But I do know that when written it is "should have" not "should of".

It can never sound the same, not in any accent. If you're pronouncing them the same, then it's because you are literally saying "should of" instead of "should've."

"Should've" and "should of" sound nothing alike.

They sound exactly alike to me

wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 12:42

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:38

Isn't 'of' always pronounced with a v sound or it would be 'off'?

Yes it would be 'off'

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:42

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:39

They sound exactly alike to me

Well on reflection, not exactly alike, but very very close

wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 12:43

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:39

They sound exactly alike to me

Yep, they do to me too, I'm not sure how some are pronouncing 'of' on this thread though.

shuggles · 22/02/2026 12:43

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:39

They sound exactly alike to me

As I already explained, if they sound exactly alike, then that's because you're incorrectly pronouncing "should've" as "should of."

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:46

shuggles · 22/02/2026 12:43

As I already explained, if they sound exactly alike, then that's because you're incorrectly pronouncing "should've" as "should of."

I can't work out any other way to pronounce it though?

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 12:47

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 21:41

Yes, and 'I was sat' sounds like you'd been plonked there by somebody else.

I saw a video by a man with a ghastly white tongue who was teaching English online. He outlined three ways for learners to sound more like a native speaker. First was use of the word 'quite'. Say, 'the weather was quite warm', 'we got on quite well', and the second was to say 'I was stood at the bus stop', or 'We were sat on the grass'. Alas I can't remember the third.

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 12:53

Applesonthelawn · 21/02/2026 21:43

Incorrect use of "I" when it's not the subject of a sentence. You even hear it in songs. I just can't help but find it extremely irritating, but only correct it at work. Between you and I is the worst of all, makes me cringe.

People I have corrected (non-native English speakers) have been really pleased to find out how easy it is to know when to use 'my husband and I' or 'me and my husband.'

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 22/02/2026 12:55

Can I add 'on accident' to the list of horrors?

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2026 12:56

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 12:47

I saw a video by a man with a ghastly white tongue who was teaching English online. He outlined three ways for learners to sound more like a native speaker. First was use of the word 'quite'. Say, 'the weather was quite warm', 'we got on quite well', and the second was to say 'I was stood at the bus stop', or 'We were sat on the grass'. Alas I can't remember the third.

Saying you were stood at the bus stop or sat on the grass means you were forcibly put there though!

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 13:02

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2026 12:56

Saying you were stood at the bus stop or sat on the grass means you were forcibly put there though!

Yes it does. But many English speakers do use this way of speaking and remember, the lesson was about how to sound more like a native speaker.

MilanoCortina2026 · 22/02/2026 13:04

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Here are another two. Grow Up.

Queenoftartts · 22/02/2026 13:07

MilanoCortina2026 · 22/02/2026 13:04

Here are another two. Grow Up.

Well in that case so does the OP. Nobody knows what other people’s struggles are. It’s called bullying to nit pick a persons weakness.

MumAsYouAre · 22/02/2026 13:09

missmollygreen · 21/02/2026 21:20

Myself and hubby were talking about it earlier.

Hubby and I. “Myself” is used like this (incorrectly) all the time.

Differentforgirls · 22/02/2026 13:09

wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 12:28

'of' is often pronounced with a v sound.

Off isn’t!

wanderingstarz · 22/02/2026 13:12

Differentforgirls · 22/02/2026 13:09

Off isn’t!

I didn't say 'off' was?

ilovesooty · 22/02/2026 13:19

Queenoftartts · 22/02/2026 13:07

Well in that case so does the OP. Nobody knows what other people’s struggles are. It’s called bullying to nit pick a persons weakness.

And it's bullying by exclusion to suggest that people who might be insecure about their written English should be corrected and educated as a matter of policy on a forum where they should feel safe in asking for support.

HoppityBun · 22/02/2026 13:20

The13thFairy · 22/02/2026 12:53

People I have corrected (non-native English speakers) have been really pleased to find out how easy it is to know when to use 'my husband and I' or 'me and my husband.'

It is never correct to say “me and my husband”.

You should never put yourself before another person. That’s just plain good manners.

So if you’re the object of the sentence, then eg “X gave or said something to my husband and [to] me.”

If you’re the subject, then “my husband and I went…”

SlimShandy · 22/02/2026 13:26

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 22/02/2026 12:55

Can I add 'on accident' to the list of horrors?

Along with something being 'addicting'.

My favourite from MN this week has been 'toot sweet', which I actually found rather endearing.

Warmlight1 · 22/02/2026 13:32

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 22/02/2026 12:55

Can I add 'on accident' to the list of horrors?

That's right! Only recently I've been hearing this more. No idea why people have started saying it..Just come out of nowhere.

liverpoolnana · 22/02/2026 14:23

I think it's probably as a counterpart to 'on purpose'.

shuggles · 22/02/2026 14:39

cantankerousoldcrone · 22/02/2026 12:46

I can't work out any other way to pronounce it though?

That's not a question, so you should not have ended that sentence with a question mark.

That can be added to the list of grammatical annoyances.