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BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

OP posts:
CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 04:09

IdentityCris · 22/02/2026 04:04

They may feel all that, but basic courtesy means that if you post on a forum like this you make basic efforts to make your post easy to read. It really isn't hard to type "have" instead of "of", and no-one is so exhausted that that is beyond them - or if they are, they should be resting, not messing around on social media. If you don't bother, essentially you are saying that you are so self-important and entitled that it's fine to force everyone else to struggle with working out what you mean, rather than that you should have to go to the effort to type a few more letters.

Nobody is actually struggling to understand what “should of” or “try and” means

IdentityCris · 22/02/2026 04:12

SouthernNights59 · 22/02/2026 02:12

Well said. Why do the oh so superior types on MN feel they must show off to everyone else? I couldn't care less about grammar I'm far more interested in what posters are saying, but I suppose some people get their kicks from pointing out others' faults - maybe they hope it might detract from their own.

And you're right, pedants' corner is the place for the bores.

Edited

The thing is, there are such double standards on MN. It's apparently completely acceptable to slag off other people's parenting, money management, tidiness, cleanliness and hygiene, cooking, work practices, driving, etc etc; but dare to suggest in a thread that someone maybe meant "would have" instead of "would of" and you're liable to be subject to a total pile-on that completely takes the thread off-track.

IdentityCris · 22/02/2026 04:20

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 04:09

Nobody is actually struggling to understand what “should of” or “try and” means

It rather depends. Some posts are so badly written that it really is difficult to understand them. In other cases it just jars, so that people lose the sense of what a poster is saying because they are distracted by dreadful grammar usage.

In either case it's mostly avoidable. Virtually no-one went through 11 years of compulsory education being told that "could of" is correct. For all that many people suddenly claim dyslexia when these errors are pointed out, it's generally blatantly obvious from their posts that they aren't dyslexic and, in any event, that isn't the type of error that is caused by dyslexia. I always find it quite distasteful when people who clearly are not dyslexic use it as an excuse, and I do know what I'm talking about through years of experience of working in that field.

MilanoCortina2026 · 22/02/2026 04:20

Mypoorbody · 22/02/2026 00:03

The thread AIBU was about whether people with knowledge of more standard grammar should post to correct usage

As someone who is not good at grammar that does feel like bullying on a SM platform such as MN. If I wanted to learn about grammar in the MN context I would actually post in Pedants Cornet, which has some non judgmental, helpful posters. When I have done so I don’t feel bullied.

Have a Flake in your Pedant's Cornet. 🍦

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 04:27

IdentityCris · 22/02/2026 04:12

The thing is, there are such double standards on MN. It's apparently completely acceptable to slag off other people's parenting, money management, tidiness, cleanliness and hygiene, cooking, work practices, driving, etc etc; but dare to suggest in a thread that someone maybe meant "would have" instead of "would of" and you're liable to be subject to a total pile-on that completely takes the thread off-track.

Presumably that’s because the parenting practices etc are the subject of the thread and something the OP has deliberately submitted for feedback.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 22/02/2026 04:35

Yanbu. I don’t reply to any OP’s who write alot abit ect, either. And the new one, Chat GBT.

MumsiesP · 22/02/2026 04:35

Or what about ..’ I seen’.. & ..’I done’..That sends me into overdrive 😖🤣🤣

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 22/02/2026 04:35

MumsiesP · 22/02/2026 04:35

Or what about ..’ I seen’.. & ..’I done’..That sends me into overdrive 😖🤣🤣

And ‘we was’

Hotchocolate4 · 22/02/2026 04:49

This thread makes me really nervous. My spelling and grammar isn’t great, I know this. I read back some emails or threads and can see what I meant to type but my brain misses out words a lot.

I am not naturally good at languages (any languages).

If someone corrects my spelling or grammar in a thread my response isn’t gratitude, I feel embarrassed, definitely don’t take in what they said and generally think the poster is a bit of a twit.

I have never corrected posters when they talk about nasty chemicals because I know what they mean.

rainandshine38 · 22/02/2026 04:52

Gotten 😡

sunshinestar1986 · 22/02/2026 05:10

BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

You assume people don't know
They know and don't care

Might eventually cause the language to change 🤣
I studied the Canterbury tales in A level English literature, we have somehow murdered the English Language 😄

sunshinestar1986 · 22/02/2026 05:11

Hotchocolate4 · 22/02/2026 04:49

This thread makes me really nervous. My spelling and grammar isn’t great, I know this. I read back some emails or threads and can see what I meant to type but my brain misses out words a lot.

I am not naturally good at languages (any languages).

If someone corrects my spelling or grammar in a thread my response isn’t gratitude, I feel embarrassed, definitely don’t take in what they said and generally think the poster is a bit of a twit.

I have never corrected posters when they talk about nasty chemicals because I know what they mean.

We call them language puritans, otherwise known as nit pickers, they don't realise how annoying they are too

Redpaisley · 22/02/2026 05:31

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/02/2026 21:20

"Should try to" is correct.

Should try to if it is followed by a very. Eg work hard, study etc. But if -

A ) I don’t have confidence to speak in public, recently I came across a course in public speaking but not sure if will help.

B) You should try and see maybe it helps.

Is ‘should try and ‘ in this scenario wrong?

Redpaisley · 22/02/2026 05:31

sunshinestar1986 · 22/02/2026 05:10

You assume people don't know
They know and don't care

Might eventually cause the language to change 🤣
I studied the Canterbury tales in A level English literature, we have somehow murdered the English Language 😄

It’s pretty sad if they know and still continue using of

Redpaisley · 22/02/2026 05:36

ilovesooty · 21/02/2026 21:16

Leave people alone. You know what they're saying.

It depends. If a person is in a crisis, I agree it’s not nice. But in normal, casual posts, why is it a problem?

I would love to be told gently if I make any grammatical mistakes. This is how we learn. It’s also a bit lazy to use would have, should have. When they read would have, should have - what do they think they are reading? Unless they have Dyslexia or any Sen issues then it’s understandable.

rainandshine38 · 22/02/2026 05:45

Would everyone be happy with teachers not correcting their children’s punctuation, grammar and spelling? If so what the hell. Let’s all just let it be!

loislovesstewie · 22/02/2026 05:59

Another one
Writing 'her' when she is correct.
Her and her husband went... , She and her husband went...

Carycach4 · 22/02/2026 06:08

Redpaisley · 22/02/2026 05:36

It depends. If a person is in a crisis, I agree it’s not nice. But in normal, casual posts, why is it a problem?

I would love to be told gently if I make any grammatical mistakes. This is how we learn. It’s also a bit lazy to use would have, should have. When they read would have, should have - what do they think they are reading? Unless they have Dyslexia or any Sen issues then it’s understandable.

You might not mind, but surely you are not so egocentric as to believe you speak for everybody?

ScreamingInfidelities · 22/02/2026 06:15

Playingvideogames · 21/02/2026 21:15

Don’t get me started on ‘should try and’

That’s always been common to hear where I’m from. Some differences in speech are just plain wrong BUT some are regional dialect/colloquialisms so maybe don’t be so judgey?

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 06:40

IdentityCris · 22/02/2026 04:20

It rather depends. Some posts are so badly written that it really is difficult to understand them. In other cases it just jars, so that people lose the sense of what a poster is saying because they are distracted by dreadful grammar usage.

In either case it's mostly avoidable. Virtually no-one went through 11 years of compulsory education being told that "could of" is correct. For all that many people suddenly claim dyslexia when these errors are pointed out, it's generally blatantly obvious from their posts that they aren't dyslexic and, in any event, that isn't the type of error that is caused by dyslexia. I always find it quite distasteful when people who clearly are not dyslexic use it as an excuse, and I do know what I'm talking about through years of experience of working in that field.

I think you’re just being difficult. When a post is so badly written it’s actually hard to understand, most people just say “I really can’t understand that”. Usually it’s a sign of someone in serious crisis or ESOL.

What doesn’t happen is that people start nit-picking every damn thing in the post. That’s reserved for people who make one obvious but basically comprehensible mistake that certain people feel the need to seize upon and “educate” the OP for their own betterment or whatever.

Also most people pulled up on their grammar don’t “suddenly” claim dyslexia, they tell the nit-picker to fuck off and try and focus on the content of the post, thanks ;-)

Redpaisley · 22/02/2026 06:40

Carycach4 · 22/02/2026 06:08

You might not mind, but surely you are not so egocentric as to believe you speak for everybody?

I don’t know how you interpreted me being egocentric from this. Do you always overreact?

Westfacing · 22/02/2026 06:46

Handrearedmagpie · 22/02/2026 02:15

Nothing is worse than ‘draws’ instead of drawers.

That doesn't bother me - it's a spelling error IMO and there aren't so many threads where the word is used.

But of of of of is simply the wrong word and it's in every thread!

StMichaelPenkevil · 22/02/2026 06:48

lazyarse123 · 21/02/2026 21:48

There is an advert for a TV programme where all the presenters say a little piece and one of the presenters says "keep the status quo as it is". I always shout at the telly that they're supposed to be educated journalists.

‘Revert back’ always annoys me as ‘back’ is redundant.

Also, when discreet and discrete are used incorrectly in text.

smallglassbottle · 22/02/2026 06:53

People are using wonder in place of wander now.

'I was wondering around' 😬

LakieLady · 22/02/2026 06:54

Woodfiresareamazing · 21/02/2026 21:54

It isn't.
'Should've' is a contraction of 'should have', the apostrophe is there to denote the missing letters h and a.
It is not pronounced the same as 'should of'.

That's one of the grammar errors that practically sets my teeth on edge. My inner pedant gets all snidey and says "Go on then, conjugate the verb "to of"".

I don't do it though, because I realise this is a "me" problem, not the problem of the author.

For the best part of 20 years, I worked in a role that involved vetting reports before they were unleashed on the public and I think I still mentally have that red pen in my hand when reading. And pedantry about language is one of the ways my autism manifests itself.

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