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Of of of of of of of of of of

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BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

OP posts:
FreeFromWhat · 22/02/2026 00:48

Try not to start your sentences with ‘and.’

And did those feet. . . . in ancient times, walk upon England's mountains.. . .

That worked out ok didn't it?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/02/2026 00:48

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 00:47

As long as I can understand what someone means, I truly don’t care about anyone else’s grammar in casual settings like forums or social media. This feeling is pretty common among my fellow professional editors.

Fora.

FreeFromWhat · 22/02/2026 00:49

Note to everyone: I'm not digging at the member who made the comment, and I mean no offence. I am just sad enough to have found it amusing. Please forgive me

You missed the irony. The poster was making a joke.

BrickBiscuit · 22/02/2026 00:50

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 00:47

As long as I can understand what someone means, I truly don’t care about anyone else’s grammar in casual settings like forums or social media. This feeling is pretty common among my fellow professional editors.

But the 'of' error is now creeping into professional settings.

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CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 00:50

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/02/2026 00:48

Fora.

lol

maxslice · 22/02/2026 00:52

Things like this drive me mad too. As does misusing “less” and “fewer” and saying something like “She gave it to Nancy and I.” But I doubt people will respond well to being corrected.

SnowFrogJelly · 22/02/2026 00:53

What about ‘gotten’ 😬

RunningOnEmptyish · 22/02/2026 00:56

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:26

I have (another) colleague who starts every email with "I hope your well...."
It's been three years. No one can bear to point it out.

I’d be embarrassed to be making that error as an adult. 😣

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/02/2026 00:57

Have we had hence why yet?
🤣

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/02/2026 00:58

SnowFrogJelly · 22/02/2026 00:53

What about ‘gotten’ 😬

Oh Lord, don't.

It's not a word.

maxslice · 22/02/2026 00:58

redskyAtNigh · 21/02/2026 21:46

What is the acceptable way to point these things out? I mean, I'd like to know if I was using words incorrectly, but if you raise something in a MN thread everyone tells you off for missing the point and that the poster might be dyslexic

I'd like there to be less mistakes :)

(My pet peeve is less vs fewer in case that wasn't obvious)

Fewer mistakes.

Pryceosh1987 · 22/02/2026 00:58

Repetition is the power of good routine.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 22/02/2026 01:00

Nanny0gg · 21/02/2026 22:03

I and my husband...?

Husband and my I

ilovesooty · 22/02/2026 01:00

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 21/02/2026 22:37

The thing is, it's not being petty or smug, or an exercise in oneupmanship. It's actually really painful to see these things if you care about them. That might sound pretentious but I used to be an editor and I love the English language and I love to see it used well. Imagine hearing a violin played so badly that it hurts your ears – it's like that.

I do care about them. I just don't think it's very kind or inclusive to pick on people's SPAG on a forum.

RunningOnEmptyish · 22/02/2026 01:01

SnowFrogJelly · 22/02/2026 00:53

What about ‘gotten’ 😬

I’ve also heard “boughtten” used as a past tense for bought! I should have boughtten it. 😬

Dickensian1234 · 22/02/2026 01:01

RosyCam · 21/02/2026 22:07

The show ‘Traitors’ was the worst for it. ‘I am voting for yourself, Roxy’. Arghhh!

I just watched The Traitors UK and that was driving me bonkers. I thought it must be a UK thing like "I was just stood there waiting". Mixing up tenses does seem to be a UK thing so I thought that the substition of "you" for "yourself" must be standard there as well. Almost every player said the same phrase. Why add an extra syllable ? Just for fun?
I love this thread.

( I have probably made 500 mistakes in this post. My apologies.)

maxslice · 22/02/2026 01:02

redskyAtNigh · 21/02/2026 21:46

What is the acceptable way to point these things out? I mean, I'd like to know if I was using words incorrectly, but if you raise something in a MN thread everyone tells you off for missing the point and that the poster might be dyslexic

I'd like there to be less mistakes :)

(My pet peeve is less vs fewer in case that wasn't obvious)

Fewer mistakes.

RunningOnEmptyish · 22/02/2026 01:05

ilovesooty · 22/02/2026 01:00

I do care about them. I just don't think it's very kind or inclusive to pick on people's SPAG on a forum.

I disagree. I’d rather have someone point it out rather than look like a dimwit.

justgottadoit · 22/02/2026 01:05

TheDandyLion · 21/02/2026 21:23

You can add off of to that list too.

Yes, totally agree. And Oasis need to record that song with the lyric ‘take that smile from off of your face’ - aargh! - but I doubt they will!

gotmyknickersinatwist · 22/02/2026 01:07

Needtofixmyageingskin · 21/02/2026 21:48

Lolz

"Axe" (often spelled "aks" or "ax") is not a recent slang deviation of "ask," but
a valid, 1,000-year-old English pronunciation originating from Old English acsian. This linguistic shift, known as metathesis, was commonly used in the Middle English period, appeared in the first English Bible in 1535, and was spoken by speakers like Chaucer, only later becoming marginalized.

Old English Origins: The verb for "ask" was originally ascian or acsian. In Old English, acsian was common, particularly in the Wessex (Southern) dialect.

Literary Usage: In the 14th century, Geoffrey Chaucer used "ax" in The Canterbury Tales.
The Bible: The 1535 Coverdale Bible (the first complete English translation) used the phrase, "Axe and it shall be given you" in Matthew 7:7.
Shift in Prominence: As the dialect around London became standardized, "ask" became the dominant form, while "ax" was preserved in regional dialects (such as in New England and the Southern US).
Evolution and Dialect: In the US, the use of "ax" was common among early Southern white settlers and later became a prominent feature of African American Vernacular English (AAVE).
Metathesis: This phenomenon is a standard linguistic process where sounds are swapped, similar to how "waps" became "wasp".
"Axe" has consistently existed in English, often reflecting regional and historical shifts rather than a modern error.

Ask or aks? How linguistic prejudice perpetuates inequality | Blog | University of Essex

Writing for The Conversation Dr Amanda Cole, Dr Ella Jeffries and Professor Peter Patrick explain how accent prejudice and linguicism is a reframing of prejudice towards low-status groups who, simply, speak differently

https://www.essex.ac.uk/blog/posts/2022/03/11/how-linguistic-prejudice-perpetuates-inequality

ThreeDeafMice · 22/02/2026 01:07

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/02/2026 00:58

Oh Lord, don't.

It's not a word.

"Ill gotten" is in the OED. First used in the 16th century.

ItstoolateformeDaveyourselves · 22/02/2026 01:08

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:18

@BrickBiscuit The particularly annoying thing about this is that "should of" and "should've" sound nothing alike. Anyone who thinks they sound the same is a bit silly.

I think it depends on accent. When I say it out loud they are exactly the same. But I do know that when written it is "should have" not "should of".

When I read it written down as "should have" I read the "a" sound in my head.

If I read "should've" it sounds like "should of" (the o sound), but I know if I had to write that out it would be "should have".

I can't hear "should've" with an "a"sound but I would never write down "should of" if that makes sense?

CamillaMcCauley · 22/02/2026 01:11

RunningOnEmptyish · 22/02/2026 01:05

I disagree. I’d rather have someone point it out rather than look like a dimwit.

Well, you didn’t need to use “rather” twice in that sentence, for a start.

Also, there’s a difference between not having perfect grammar and being a dimwit.

Beenwhereyouareagain · 22/02/2026 01:12

Yes, but right after that, we agree to correct lose/loose and your/you're. 🙄

gotmyknickersinatwist · 22/02/2026 01:13

maxslice · 22/02/2026 01:02

Fewer mistakes.

@redskyAtNigh it clearly wasn't

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