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Pack lunch.

77 replies

Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 11:03

I want to scream when I see or hear "pack lunch"!

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upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 14:04

I think there is a trend now, to leave off the 'ed' of many words. There was a discussion which was probably on Chat, maybe three years ago. In Sainsbury's I'd seen a packet of 'corn beef' although Sainsbury's own said 'corned'. I think if you look in the drinks aisle you might find 'ice tea', possibly Lipton's. I mentioned these on the thread and I was accused of racism and I really don't understand why. I used to write to an American woman who wrote a very good letter and I noticed that she would write 'we use to do so-and-so' where I would have said 'we useD to do so-and-so. I don't know if this trend is in the USA as well, but I do see it here.

In the top of the 'fridge there's some ice cream. When Mr. Darcy offered delicious chilled desserts to his lunch guests, while he could hardly tear his eyes from Lizzie Bennett, I think they included cream which had been iced, thanks to his ice house. Was there ever a time when we said 'iced cream'?

Acc0untant · 28/04/2025 14:17

upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 14:04

I think there is a trend now, to leave off the 'ed' of many words. There was a discussion which was probably on Chat, maybe three years ago. In Sainsbury's I'd seen a packet of 'corn beef' although Sainsbury's own said 'corned'. I think if you look in the drinks aisle you might find 'ice tea', possibly Lipton's. I mentioned these on the thread and I was accused of racism and I really don't understand why. I used to write to an American woman who wrote a very good letter and I noticed that she would write 'we use to do so-and-so' where I would have said 'we useD to do so-and-so. I don't know if this trend is in the USA as well, but I do see it here.

In the top of the 'fridge there's some ice cream. When Mr. Darcy offered delicious chilled desserts to his lunch guests, while he could hardly tear his eyes from Lizzie Bennett, I think they included cream which had been iced, thanks to his ice house. Was there ever a time when we said 'iced cream'?

In the 16th and 17th century yes, it was iced cream.

Seymour5 · 28/04/2025 14:23

Growsomeballswoman · 28/04/2025 11:46

Where does snap come from?

AFAIK (in Yorkshire) miners took food in tin boxes with snap fastenings. They became known as snap tins, and the food in them, became known as snap.

blacksax · 28/04/2025 14:32

Needmorelego · 28/04/2025 11:25

@afaloren but it depends where you live 😁

No it doesn't. One is correct, the other is not. Whether you live in Truro, Tadcaster or Tasmania, one is right and the other is wrong.

marshmallowfinder · 28/04/2025 14:59

Pack lunch drives me crazy. It is a packED lunch. In a similar vein, what is going on with bias being used instead of biasED? For example, 'I'm bias because I love puddings.' I keep seeing it used.😭

RaraRachael · 28/04/2025 15:26

I wonder if some people have anh conception of the meaning of words.
I saw a woman refer to her toddler as a little worldwind instead of whirlwind 🙄

Needmorelego · 28/04/2025 15:48

blacksax · 28/04/2025 14:32

No it doesn't. One is correct, the other is not. Whether you live in Truro, Tadcaster or Tasmania, one is right and the other is wrong.

Says who?
It's not exactly a legal term. Just a way of calling some food you take to school/work to eat.
At my primary it was referred to "being on sandwiches" - even though technically there was no requirement to actually have a sandwich as your food.

Limer · 28/04/2025 15:51

Very annoying.

As is "mash potato".

BucketFacer · 28/04/2025 16:15

Bricks and water anyone?

marshmallowfinder · 28/04/2025 16:22

Limer · 28/04/2025 15:51

Very annoying.

As is "mash potato".

Or mince beef. 😡

upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 18:54

Are mashed and iced and corned and biased et cetera 'past participles'?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/04/2025 19:03

Yes, they are.

Ddakji · 28/04/2025 19:04

I hope all the packed pedants always used teenaged not teenage.

Though I will admit to loathing text instead of texted. Because you pronounce the “ted” quite clearly in texted so there’s no excuse other than sloppiness.

upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 19:05

upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 13:46

Not sure, but I know the words 'piece', 'dockey' and 'snap' as alternatives to 'pack-up', 'packed dinner'.

I think my Mum's Cambridgeshire cousin used the word 'dockey'.

Ooooh, dough cake and cheese and cold tea with grandad.

I googled 'dockey' and found that 'docky' is lunch, maybe heard in Cambs, Lincs, Norfolk.

My mum's cousin once had a young man relation staying at her house for a few months. She had to make him a pack-up every day. She said that he didn't mind what she put in his sandwiches for his docky, but he had to have 12 slices of bread.

upinaballoon · 28/04/2025 19:08

Acc0untant · 28/04/2025 14:17

In the 16th and 17th century yes, it was iced cream.

Thank you.

CatusFlatus · 28/04/2025 19:12

marshmallowfinder · 28/04/2025 14:59

Pack lunch drives me crazy. It is a packED lunch. In a similar vein, what is going on with bias being used instead of biasED? For example, 'I'm bias because I love puddings.' I keep seeing it used.😭

I detest 'I'm bias...' - what the actual?

Then weirdly the other day I heard someone refer to bias binding as biased binding!

The world's going to hell in a handcart.

Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:45

Needmorelego · 28/04/2025 11:13

It's a regional thing.
Pack Lunch
Packed Lunch
Pack Up
All the same thing.

No, it's definitely packed lunch.

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Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:45

BobbyBiscuits · 28/04/2025 11:19

For me that's normal? I guess I associate it with school. So it could sound a bit childish?
What else would you call it?
'my sandwich/ leftovers'?

It's packed lunch, not pack lunch.

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Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:47

Growsomeballswoman · 28/04/2025 11:46

Where does snap come from?

My dad said snap or jackbit and he was from south Lancashire.

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Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:49

marshmallowfinder · 28/04/2025 14:59

Pack lunch drives me crazy. It is a packED lunch. In a similar vein, what is going on with bias being used instead of biasED? For example, 'I'm bias because I love puddings.' I keep seeing it used.😭

I hate bias instead of biased too. I see it everywhere these days!

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Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:50

TallulahBetty · 28/04/2025 11:51

I hate this too! See also 'drop kerb' - arrrrrgggghh

Or even worse, drop curb!

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BobbyBiscuits · 28/04/2025 20:09

Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:45

It's packed lunch, not pack lunch.

I don't see why particularly it can only be that.

It's in a pack, packed up. So it could be either?

queenofthesuburbs · 28/04/2025 20:15

Was there ever a time when we said 'iced cream'?

In Enid Blyton books, the children were always eating "ices"

queenofthesuburbs · 28/04/2025 20:18

Don't get me started on the recent American trend of "math". It actually makes me cringe...just seems so open ended somehow

Needmorelego · 28/04/2025 20:20

Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 19:45

No, it's definitely packed lunch.

No.
There ARE regional variations.

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