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Pedants' corner

Stop putting ‘I’ as the object in a sentence

102 replies

ProfessorPeppy · 16/06/2024 17:45

Everyone does this. Everyone. It’s so simple: if you’re the subject of the sentence, you’re ‘me’.

DH and I bought a chihuahua- correct

DCs and I took chihuahua for a walk - correct

The chihuahua barked at DH and I - WRONG

Please send the chihuahua back to DH and I - WRONG WRONG WRONG!

If in doubt, take out DH to hear how wrong it sounds:

Please send the chihuahua back to I.

The chihuahua barked at I.

Thank you 😥

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dunkdemunder · 16/06/2024 20:53

It's when people start using 'myself' incorrectly that I start to fizzle.

DH and myself went to the opera

Myself and DH enjoy croquet.

Please contact DH or myself ..

butterpuffed · 17/06/2024 14:36

I just had a look at my daily You Gov questions.

Today's was 'Which is grammatically correct?' Answers are shown

1] It really has made the world of difference to William and me ~ 28%

2] It really has made the world of difference to William and I ~ 51%

3] Both are correct ~ 15%

4] Neither ~ 3%

5] Don't know ~ 3%

I despair!!!! 😱😱[SCREEEAAAAMM]

GrumpyPanda · 17/06/2024 14:49

haddockfortea · 16/06/2024 17:48

You know people will only go and get it the wrong way round and use 'me' instead, don't you?

Me and DH both agree on this. 😂

It's not the same type of "mistake" though. Using "me" in a subject position is a colloquialisn and arguably a case of organic linguistic change. Ever notice how it often occurs for greater emphasis, similar to nominative "moi" in French? (E.g. moi, j'ai toujours pensé que...).

In contrast, "between you and I" is a prissy overcorrection that arises because people vaguely remember being told off for using "me" incorrectly but never understood why. And that's what makes it so grating.

ProfessorPeppy · 17/06/2024 15:28

butterpuffed · 17/06/2024 14:36

I just had a look at my daily You Gov questions.

Today's was 'Which is grammatically correct?' Answers are shown

1] It really has made the world of difference to William and me ~ 28%

2] It really has made the world of difference to William and I ~ 51%

3] Both are correct ~ 15%

4] Neither ~ 3%

5] Don't know ~ 3%

I despair!!!! 😱😱[SCREEEAAAAMM]

Ewwww 🤢

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MontyDonsBlueScarf · 17/06/2024 15:34

Methinks that probably those who can identify the subject of a sentence are probably not the main offenders.

oakleaffy · 17/06/2024 15:36

haddockfortea · 16/06/2024 17:48

You know people will only go and get it the wrong way round and use 'me' instead, don't you?

Me and DH both agree on this. 😂

Myself and my husband agree too!

BitOutOfPractice · 17/06/2024 16:48

Do you mean me and himself @oakleaffy ? 😬

ThunderQween · 17/06/2024 18:14

But it's you and me
And we'll always be together
You and me, always and forever

coffeandteav · 17/06/2024 18:39

On you gov Op.

Stop putting ‘I’ as the object in a sentence
gleefulstar · 17/06/2024 18:40

coffeandteav · 17/06/2024 18:39

On you gov Op.

😱😱

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/06/2024 18:42

coffeandteav · 17/06/2024 18:39

On you gov Op.

Why in God's name didn't somebody suggest 'Your Highness, how about we say ''it has really made a difference to both of us''?' ?

Scruffily · 17/06/2024 18:56

Can someone tell John Torode? DH is getting tired of me yelling at the TV "No, they're not cooking for Gregg and I, they're cooking for sodding Gregg and ME!". And then having to explain that "me" = Torode.

If they could also teach him how to pronounce "turmeric" I would be truly happy.

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/06/2024 19:13

unsync · 16/06/2024 18:25

Myself most certainly doesn't. 😬

I must admit to a certain morbid fascination on some threads. Having been educated in the 1970s and 1980s, I have assumed that English Language is no longer taught. Is that the case?

There's a ridiculous amount of Grammar taught in Primary schools (thanks to Gove) but it clearly isn't working.

IlPorcupinoNilSodomyEst · 17/06/2024 19:13

Scruffily · 17/06/2024 18:56

Can someone tell John Torode? DH is getting tired of me yelling at the TV "No, they're not cooking for Gregg and I, they're cooking for sodding Gregg and ME!". And then having to explain that "me" = Torode.

If they could also teach him how to pronounce "turmeric" I would be truly happy.

Choomeric, pussta and celery-ack for Gregg and I please ...

ErrolTheDragon · 17/06/2024 19:19

coffeandteav · 17/06/2024 18:39

On you gov Op.

I'm more interested in the second question...would tropical fish keepers be allowed a day off each time a guppy ate one of its fry?

The me/I confusion or overcorrection isn't a new phenomenon, nothing to do with the internet or changes in schooling over the decades.

AyrshireTryer · 17/06/2024 19:30

DH and I personally bought a chihuahua

butterpuffed · 17/06/2024 19:45

I did the same earlier @coffeandteav [15.28] and the difference wasn't so great then . It'll be 100% by the end of the day 😅

Abouttimeforanamechange · 17/06/2024 19:51

Why in God's name didn't somebody suggest 'Your Highness, how about we say ''it has really made a difference to both of us''?' ?

Because 'Your Highness' isn't the correct way to address her? (Since we're in Pedants' Corner.) 😁

I once heard Prince Harry say 'Me and (other person)' in a speech. I think that was during his 'I'm just one of the lads' phase.

BettyBlueHat · 17/06/2024 20:01

Totally agree. And so fed of reading numerous posts that start

“me and DH…” so annoying

sicilianpizza · 17/06/2024 20:20

I agree it's a picture of Dad and me, not Dad and I, but where is this rule actually set out definitively? I have googled this before as I sometimes doubt myself (especially growing up being corrected every time I said me & ....) so would be helpful to see evidence!

Also, what about 'on behalf of myself and the train crew...' Is this correct? Every long distance train journey I listen to this repeatedly and think surely not?

ProfessorPeppy · 17/06/2024 21:26

Scruffily · 17/06/2024 18:56

Can someone tell John Torode? DH is getting tired of me yelling at the TV "No, they're not cooking for Gregg and I, they're cooking for sodding Gregg and ME!". And then having to explain that "me" = Torode.

If they could also teach him how to pronounce "turmeric" I would be truly happy.

God people saying choomrik drives me bananas 🤪

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coffeandteav · 17/06/2024 21:29

butterpuffed · 17/06/2024 19:45

I did the same earlier @coffeandteav [15.28] and the difference wasn't so great then . It'll be 100% by the end of the day 😅

Probably 🥴

CristineMagellan · 18/06/2024 09:19

If they could also teach him how to pronounce "turmeric" I would be truly happy.

People from different places pronounce things differently. That shouldn't be a big deal.

Cattenberg · 18/06/2024 09:33

When I was growing up, the adults in my life kept pulling me up for saying things such as, “me and my friend” instead of “my friend and I”. I didn’t understand the underlying rule (and the difference between who and whom was a complete mystery to me). So, I hyper-corrected and sometimes used “I” when “me” would have been correct.

Thirty years on, I often have to take the other person out of the sentence to check which pronoun is correct. And some of the correct usages of “me” still sound wrong to my ears.

niadainud · 18/06/2024 09:33

"DH and I's chihuahua" has to be the worst. 🤢 Sorry - the worse. 🙄