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Two-word tautologies

239 replies

MoleAtTheCounter · 12/04/2023 11:48

Past history
Free gift
Aromatic smell
Mass exodus (a BBC favourite)

Please post more examples.

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SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 12/04/2023 12:39

I think there can be degrees of inaccuracy.

coloursquare · 12/04/2023 12:39

Dead corpse

Amantissima · 12/04/2023 12:40

squashyhat · 12/04/2023 12:36

Wildly inaccurate. It's either inaccurate or it's not.

I don't know. That one gets a pass from me. I suppose it's useful to know whether an estimate or projection of rainfall/Covid cases etc is out by 2% or more like 80%?

TakeMeToKernow · 12/04/2023 12:41

Completely devoid?

Aturnipforthebooks · 12/04/2023 12:42

Tallisker · 12/04/2023 12:16

Pre order

What is the issue with this? Isn't it used to describe reserving something that is not yet available to buy?

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 12/04/2023 12:42

"Vitally important" isn't tautological, because "important" isn't an extreme adjective. It's only extreme adjectives that can't be modified. Fundamental/vital/essential/unique etc. (That's why "very unique" is wrong)

"Hence why" is obviously just wrong however, and used by people who don't know the meaning of hence.

Aturnipforthebooks · 12/04/2023 12:43

squashyhat · 12/04/2023 12:36

Wildly inaccurate. It's either inaccurate or it's not.

Submitting a tax return that is inaccurate by a few pence will be treated different to one that is out by thousands of pounds.

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 12/04/2023 12:44

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 12/04/2023 12:39

I think there can be degrees of inaccuracy.

Yes, I was thinking about that one. Something can be 1% inaccurate (a written exercise with a spelling mistake) or 99% inaccurate (hardly anything is written correctly)

I agree that pre-order is OK as well.

ChocChipHandbag · 12/04/2023 12:45

Added bonus

ChocChipHandbag · 12/04/2023 12:46

Tallisker · 12/04/2023 12:19

Oh and another thing, drives me bananas...

See those three dots? An ellipsis? At my work they call them "three ellipses".

AAARRGH!

OMG that would give me the rage!

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:47

Tallisker · 12/04/2023 12:16

Pre order

Pre order means order before it's generally available.

It has a helpful and distinct meaning.

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:49

squashyhat · 12/04/2023 12:36

Wildly inaccurate. It's either inaccurate or it's not.

Oh come on, there are huge degrees of inaccuracy, from a typo to that didn't happen.

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:50

coloursquare · 12/04/2023 12:39

Dead corpse

Nobody says dead corpse. It's dead body, or corpse.

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:51

Oneearringlost · 12/04/2023 12:23

Vitally important.

Some things are much more important than others.

Amantissima · 12/04/2023 12:51

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:47

Pre order means order before it's generally available.

It has a helpful and distinct meaning.

Yes, I think this is fine, too. You can pre-order books before their publication date on Amazon, for instance. 'Order' to me implies that the object already exists and is available, whereas 'pre-order' is a slightly separate category, and may take far longer to arrive.

Tidsleytiddy · 12/04/2023 12:52

Return back

IglesiasPiggl · 12/04/2023 12:53

squashyhat · 12/04/2023 12:36

Wildly inaccurate. It's either inaccurate or it's not.

Not sure I agree. Something can be slightly inaccurate, eg, she has four children when she has three, or inaccurate by a very long way, eg she has twelve children when she has three.

PedantScorner · 12/04/2023 12:53

Pre-book

Timeforachangeisitnot · 12/04/2023 12:54

Bare naked.

It’s not a Mumsnet thing, but it seems to be a thing where I live.

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:56

PedantScorner · 12/04/2023 12:53

Pre-book

'you can't just turn up to Centre Parcs and expect to eat in their restaurants, you really need to pre book'

You book before you even go on holiday. Pre travel.

Pamandherpampams · 12/04/2023 12:56

My personal (opinion)

coloursquare · 12/04/2023 12:57

@MorrisZapp to be pedantic - it doesn't matter whether anyone says dead corpse or not. It's still a two word tautology.

coloursquare · 12/04/2023 12:58

two-word

PedantScorner · 12/04/2023 12:58

@MorrisZapp , if you book something, you are doing it it in advance, so the pre- is unnecessary.

MorrisZapp · 12/04/2023 12:59

Timeforachangeisitnot · 12/04/2023 12:54

Bare naked.

It’s not a Mumsnet thing, but it seems to be a thing where I live.

The Americans say butt naked. It's an intensifier, to suggest a degree of shamelessness, humour or inappropriateness.

You don't have a shower bare naked. But you might accidentally be caught bare naked by the delivery man.

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