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Pedants and incorrect song lyrics

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UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 10:49

Does anyone else hear Gloria Gaynor on "I Will Survive" singing "you think I'd lay down and die" and want to scream at the radio "it's LIE down, you stupid woman!!" ?

Also Paul Weller on the Jam's "English Rose": "For nothing can ever tempt me from she." EH??

And Morrissey on "Sweet and Tender Hooligan" - his fans think he's erudite, but anyone who says "eck-setera" should be shot...

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pirategirl · 30/01/2008 10:51

Yet English Rose is forgiven imo, it being such a super tune !

SoupDragon · 30/01/2008 10:51

Aren't song lyrics more akin to poetry than grammatically correct English though? An awful lot of poetry bends the rules to breaking point

Hassled · 30/01/2008 10:51

DS2 (9) had the audacity to correct the grammar of "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" yesterday .

pirategirl · 30/01/2008 10:54

ooh, that reminds me was listening to some Beatles the other day ( wel every day as dd 5 is huge fan)and George says 'somethink' instead of 'something'.

I am pleased that by the time he released a single actaully called 'Something' that he had been corrected!

harleyd · 30/01/2008 10:54

wow uqd, you need to chill

SoupDragon · 30/01/2008 10:56

Mind you. There's no excuse for the utter cr*pness of the rhymes (and possibly grammar) in "cool for cats"

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 10:57

I don't mean I literally scream at the radio! Things aren't that bad... yet.

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kindersurprise · 30/01/2008 10:58

I hate when German songwriters write in English and don't get their grammar checked.

Big hit a few years ago, a guy called Max Mutzke sang this song

Just can't wait until tonight babe
till i have you by my side babe
Just can't wait until tonight babe
for being with you

Aargh, made my toes curl everytime I heard it.

Nothing to do with artistic licence that one.

fryalot · 30/01/2008 10:59

aaah

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pirategirl · 30/01/2008 11:02

yeah but cool for cats is a poem of its time, of a teenager, and that's how they speak.

Saying that you could pretty much say every rap song was incorrect in some way.

Glen Tilbrook is a great songwriter.

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 11:05

Yes, but I do cringe at rap too. All that "ah wuz jammin wit ma homeez on a Saturday night an' we wuz feelin rel good an feelin all right an' we wuz hangin' in da hood an checkin' out da pussy" crap. Learn to spell. Then learn to speak. Idiots.

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harleyd · 30/01/2008 11:06

pmsl

pirategirl · 30/01/2008 11:08

uD thats sooooooo Rapaphobic of you. and ting.!

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 13:02

I'm sure TT D'Arby sings "you should of stayed" in "Sign Your Name" towards the end. If so, he deserves to be eviscerated.

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MaryAnnSingleton · 30/01/2008 13:04

I'll forgive Paul Weller for the English Rose 'she' because I love that song...

Botbot · 30/01/2008 13:05

'Sweet Dreams My LAX' by Rachel Stevens:

'If I was in your shoes/I'd worry of the effects'

ABOUT the effects, woman!

It would even be acceptable to say ' 'bout the effects'.

A quite good, perky pop tune ruined for ever because I'm a pedant.

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 13:07

Yes, let's not get pop "idiom" confused with bad grammar. The odd "'bout", and even "ain't" and "don't wanna" and so on are perfectly acceptable. Not like the examples I'm trying to give/get.

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margoandjerry · 30/01/2008 13:09

Moonlight Shadow:

"4 AM in the morning..."

GRRRRRRR

Kathyis6incheshigh · 30/01/2008 13:09

There's a Corrs song (I think it's 'Everybody's searching for intimacy') where she sings 'Now baby it's just you and I'.

Drives me insane because it's hyper-correction - where someone is trying too hard to be correct and they actually get it wrong and sound stupid. That's far, far worse than just being over-colloquial in a song and singing the thing most people say even if it is wrong ('should of' etc).

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 13:12

m&J - yes!! How could I have forgotten that one? I mean, there's not even a poetic reason for it - "4 o'clock in the morning" would scan just as well!

kathy - I bet there are many other examples of hyper-correction. I can think of one: Bryan Adams in "Run To You":
"She says her love for me could never die,
But that'd change if she ever found out about you and I"

aagh!!

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pirategirl · 30/01/2008 13:12

is this one? , 'don't be fooled by the rocks that i got'

shoudln't this be 'that I have'

then she could have followed with 'I'm still Jenny trashy chav'

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 13:13

I won't agree most people say "should of", though! It's one thing I will man the barricades about until I die!!

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fryalot · 30/01/2008 13:14

UD - but Bryan Adams was trying to rhyme I with die... me wouldn't have done the job

UnquietDad · 30/01/2008 13:17

There's a similar one in Embrace's "Gravity", written by Chris Martin:

"And then I looked up at the sun and saw the sky
And the way that gravity pulls on you and I"

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