Can someone explain the definition of "post modern" to me?

[BumperliciousIsOneHotMother]

I often hear or read it and haven't a clue what it means?

?que?

Are you talking "Big Cook Little Cook"?

I think you both need to have a lie down. Obviously, Iorek will have to lie down under her desk.

lol ib and BIWI

Ah Yes, the episode of Big Cook Little Cook when the person behind the hatch that they cook for isn't cinderella or a giant, but Baudrillard.

They draw him a lovely big picture of a cake, film it, and screen it for him on a giant projector.

I've done my dissertation on postmodernism and baudrillard etc etc. when you could make yourself look intelligent (or poncey/wankey) while talking about the way Big Cook Little Cook mirrors this food obsessed society blah blah blah. these were the days.... now all my brain will allow me to do is sing the Big Cook tune!

lol

(but only after I looked up Baudrillard on wikipedia)

[dunce emoticon]

i once did a piece of art..which was reproductions of the copyright insignia from disney mostly from disneyworld stuff presented as a fold out booklet as i recall with instructions on how to assemble it

i did a lot of work relating to disney

in this context

that is pretty damn cool, Zippi.

has nayone mentions Terry Feckin Eagleton yet?

they were ALWAYS banging on about him when I was pretending to grasp postmodernism when I was a lad

I think of post-modernism as the end of the philosophical/socioligal/cultural line or progressive track, as if everyone has got off the train and broken up the track and made weird things out of it and it's all a bit of a mess and abstract and funny.

So I can't imagine post post-modernism other than making the track up again and carrying on and then looking back at the funny crunched up bit.

yes. Philosopher's are going to need new skills in the future, welding and that.

Is there really a formally accepted canonical definition? (I had a look at Wikipedia & it effectively said "Search Us Guv".)

Approach I used to take (in very dim dark ages of mid-80s seminar-leading which I am glad are not continuing) was spot-the-lacuna (a la Derrida) ... ie, find yourself a Text (which could be a building, ponce-ahoy, but is more typically a Bit of Expository Writing) and, in "unpacking" that Text, find a place where it contradicts its own premises or leaves something unspoken or begs a question (this is why Derrida was so keen on footnotes, as they are dead easy signals to those trying to find begged questions) - and then make an argument to prove that such question-begging goes to so profoundly the root of the thing being written that everything it does try to say collapses in on itself.

Now, of course, I know this is "deconstruction", not "post-modernism", but you can make a case for the one being the theory & the other the practice - ie post-modernism is what you "create" when all your activity is spent deconstructing.

(I am SO glad I now just spend my days devising financing structures.)

blimey Bink, it's only 3pm.

Oh, can I quote my eight-year-old's definition of philosophy, which is sort of relevant: "Questions which are easy to ask but mind-breakingly difficult to answer."

I wouldn't trust a philosopher to weld my pipes. No no no no.

isn't the pompidou centre an example of deconstructivism [disappears up own arse sideways]

calls philosopher to unblock Gifted's pipes.

I think the philosophers could hold an imaginary soldering iron if they thought very hard about it, being such deep thinkers, or get a wand.

or even a biro

or a simulacrum of a biro, MrsC

of course, onebatmother, a Real one

Oh god not Baudrillard.

Certainly not a pm one IorekByrnison!

toosh-ay MrsC!