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Myself instead of Me

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SecretPineapple · 18/03/2022 08:37

"If you would like any more info please see myself."

I read this from a professional earlier. It makes me cringe!

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WorryMcGee · 18/03/2022 08:39

Same, argh it sets my teeth on edge. It seems to be everywhere as well!! Whyyyy

Nicoise · 18/03/2022 08:41

It enrages myself too!

SecretPineapple · 18/03/2022 08:58

@Nicoise

It enrages myself too!

I'm giving you a hard stare for that!
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WorryMcGee · 18/03/2022 09:19

@Nicoise

It enrages myself too!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrggghhhhhhh 😂
Defiantly41 · 18/03/2022 09:21

One of my pet hates ... misuse of the reflexive pronoun.

"Is that alright for yourself?" Angry

crispmidnightpeace · 18/03/2022 11:14

@SecretPineapple

"If you would like any more info please see myself."

I read this from a professional earlier. It makes me cringe!

That's good! Better than "If you would like anymore info plea'se s'ee my'self"
crispmidnightpeace · 18/03/2022 11:15

@WorryMcGee

Same, argh it sets my teeth on edge. It seems to be everywhere as well!! Whyyyy

Have you noticed people adopt spelling mistakes and misnomas like some sort of download all at the same time?

A part of became "apart of" (which means the opposite)
Every day became "everyday" (which has a different meaning)

Many examples like this and people just seemed to adopt them all at once. Very strange.

Also, people put 'asking for a friend' after every question for some bizarre reason.
WorryMcGee · 18/03/2022 11:29

@crispmidnightpeace I’ve never thought about this until you pointed it out - you’re right! “Should of” seems to be more prevalent than it ever was as well.

Could it be social media? Asking for a friend…

beattieedny · 18/03/2022 11:35

Oh me too! I hate it. Makes me cringe. Up there with 'I pacifically told you".
Hanging is too good etc

crispmidnightpeace · 18/03/2022 11:48

[quote WorryMcGee]@crispmidnightpeace I’ve never thought about this until you pointed it out - you’re right! “Should of” seems to be more prevalent than it ever was as well.

Could it be social media? Asking for a friend…[/quote]
Ha!

Should of is so old I forgot about it. Funnily enough my husband says it and I correct him most times but he still does it.

I really don't understand it. I want to be the best I can be and if I am corrected I take it on board. Then, my job is centred around proper use of English and I've always been adept at grasping grammar and punctuation and spelling.

It could be social media but I'm not sure whether you are aware of how illiterate even teachers are these days? They make these mistakes and more, and hence the population will never be literate.

The working class are being brought back down to serfdom because if we can't communicate then we can't organise and our rights will erode into nothingness.

I'm educating my child at home and lapping up the extra work that comes with my skill becoming esoteric. I try not to get upset by it and instead take advantage of the situation. I wish it weren't this way, but people don't want to be corrected so I leave them to it now.

PedantScorner · 05/05/2022 15:20

@crispmidnightpeace , isn't misnoma a misnomer?

Myself and DP are in agreement about this.
If you don't agree, ask DP and myself, or DP and I.

SpeckledlyHen · 05/05/2022 15:27

It really is everywhere at the moment "myself and my husband have just moved to the area" - I can't stand it.. sounds so awful..

pigsDOfly · 06/05/2022 19:37

If it's not 'myself' being used inappropriately, it's 'I' being thrown into strange places e.g. 'he spoke to James and I about it', usually by the same people.

Both uses are, I think, an attempt by the user to make themselves sound more 'correct'.

Rather like verbal doilies.

SwedishEdith · 06/05/2022 19:43

I hate it but don't know the formal/technical explanation for why it's wrong. I want to correct people (and can in my job 😃) when they misuse it but what should I be telling other than "Urgh, stop trying to sound posh"?

Gingerbreadcandle · 06/05/2022 19:47

It’s a reflexive pronoun so you use myself where you have already said I, and yourself when you have already said you, for example, I will do it myself, or you can do it yourself.

LouiseOuiOui · 06/05/2022 19:49

It’s my pet hate too. I find it’s normally done when people are trying to sound more articulate than they really are, as they believe that ‘myself’ is the correct, more formal version of ‘me’. Brrrrb

PrettyMaybug · 06/05/2022 20:04

I also loathe 'myself' being used instead of 'me' or 'I' too. It sounds so naff! I agree with pps, that people use it, to try and sound more articulate than they actually are.

Another pet hate of mine recently, is people using the word 'transparent' which apparently means 'honest and open.' Transparent means see-through FFS. Like a WINDOW. Always has meant that. It has always meant something you can see through, but for the past 5-6 years, it's developed extra meanings... 'to share your thoughts and opinions honestly and respectfully,' and 'transparency is an approach to communicating and forming relationships that emphasize being direct with people." FUCK OFF IT MEANS SEE-THROUGH!!! It's often used on the news when reporting on politics ... Every time I hear someone say (on the news) 'they need to be more transparent' I feel my hackles rising! Angry

See also, people putting SANS in an ENGLISH sentence, instead of 'without.' Eg, 'we went to the beach sans the dog.' Why the random French word you pretentious git?

Finally, people have started to say 'chill' this past couple of years, to describe something that was relaxed and quiet and easy going. 'Last Christmas was so chill I could have cried.' Why????????? Chill means coldness, or coolness, or to scare, frighten, or alarm someone!

Sunnytwobridges · 06/05/2022 20:08

HATE it!

Along with "your" instead of "you're"
and "could/would of" instead of "could/would HAVE"

SwedishEdith · 06/05/2022 20:14

Gingerbreadcandle · 06/05/2022 19:47

It’s a reflexive pronoun so you use myself where you have already said I, and yourself when you have already said you, for example, I will do it myself, or you can do it yourself.

Trouble is, I suspect that would just be met with a confused face by the people who use it. I'll just have to be straight - "this is the wrong use of the word here".

Mamette · 06/05/2022 20:22

I think people use “myself” and “yourself” in a misguided attempt to convey professionalism and respect.

”Yourself” is maybe also used a means to differentiate between the second person singular and plural, e.g. in service situations, like a waiter taking an order ”and for yourself?”.


misnomas

Muphry’s Law? Or irony?

(Asking for a friend.)

EarringsandLipstick · 06/05/2022 20:28

Another pet hate of mine recently, is people using the word 'transparent' which apparently means 'honest and open.' Transparent means see-through FFS. Like a WINDOW. Always has meant that

You're completely wrong.

Transparent does mean see-through.

It also means 'easy to perceive or detect' in other words, that a particular act or approach is honest and above-board, as it would be easy to perceive / detect if not.

Equally when people talk eg on news programmes about the 'need for transparency', they mean that a particular course of Acton should be so clear in approach and detail that it can be 'see-through' - they are using it in the meaning you refer to.

And this is what annoys me! People who don't have a proper understanding etymology and go off in rages about perceived language misuse.

EarringsandLipstick · 06/05/2022 20:29
  • course of action
EarringsandLipstick · 06/05/2022 20:29

understanding of* etymology

RestingMurderousFace · 06/05/2022 20:31

Jade Goody was the queen of 'myself'. 😬

Choufleurfromage · 10/05/2022 10:22

crispmidnightpeace · 18/03/2022 11:15

@WorryMcGee

Same, argh it sets my teeth on edge. It seems to be everywhere as well!! Whyyyy

Have you noticed people adopt spelling mistakes and misnomas like some sort of download all at the same time?

A part of became "apart of" (which means the opposite)
Every day became "everyday" (which has a different meaning)

Many examples like this and people just seemed to adopt them all at once. Very strange.

Also, people put 'asking for a friend' after every question for some bizarre reason.

Sorry @WorryMcGee but as this is pedant's corner..

Misnomer not misnoma - unless you were being ironic!

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