Additional words that really wind me up

[PumpkinSpiceGirl]

Swap it ‘out’
Fry it ‘off’

And also ‘works do’ - surely it’s just work do?

Tell me I’m not the only one (and I bet there are more).

@Palavah

Station stop used to grate until it was pointed out to me that it is actually more pedantic - as PP says, it's to distinguish from stations you don't stop at and stops that aren't stations.

This is a good point!

@MarshaBradyo

Muriel can you use it in a sentence to show what you mean?

I put the book on to the table.

You took the book off of the table.

He fell out of the tree.

She fell off of the ladder.

Henry VI pt II, act 2 scene 1
CARDINAL
What, art thou lame?

SIMPCOX
Ay, God Almighty help me!

SUFFOLK
How camest thou so?

SIMPCOX
A fall off of a tree.

You took the book off of the table.

‘You took the book off the table’ still looks better to me.

@MarshaBradyo

You took the book off of the table.

‘You took the book off the table’ still looks better to me.

And to most people I think, but only I guess because "off" and "of" are such similar words. If you accept "on to" as correct you must accept "off of".

I’m afraid I cannot

But I appreciate the well thought out argument

@MarshaBradyo

I’m afraid I cannot

But I appreciate the well thought out argument

You'll have to take it to with Sir William!

Ha true

A lot of these are americanisms. The one that I’ve noticed cropping up a lot is “colourway” eg “you can buy this trendy cushion in 2 colour ways”… or two colours maybe?!

Also really detest the erosion of the imperfect “I was standing” “I was sitting”.

But @Tottie note that Hiberno English uses bring and take differently from standard English (due to differences in Irish grammar) so the “mistakes” you’re noticing might not be errors, just the different usage.

Touchée, but my point still holds on the "year" bit

@Jujujuly

A lot of these are americanisms. The one that I’ve noticed cropping up a lot is “colourway” eg “you can buy this trendy cushion in 2 colour ways”… or two colours maybe?!

Also really detest the erosion of the imperfect “I was standing” “I was sitting”.

But @Tottie note that Hiberno English uses bring and take differently from standard English (due to differences in Irish grammar) so the “mistakes” you’re noticing might not be errors, just the different usage.

Colourways are like colour schemes, aren't they? We bought a pram in the 'paper plane colourway'. It's kind of like the themes you get in MS PowerPoint, I think- a selection of colours that work together and form a single colourway.

I'm with Marsha on this one.

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit

I'm with Marsha on this one.

I'm genuinely interested to know why, and whether you think the same about "on to" and "out of".

@ThirdElephant that’s probably the correct usage yes, but I’ve seen loads of influencers using it to describe single coloured items - eg a H&M cardigan that comes in blue and green and they’ve gone for “the blue colourway”.

@MurielSpriggs

Ihopeyourcakeisshit
I'm with Marsha on this one.
I'm genuinely interested to know why, and whether you think the same about "on to" and "out of".

I’m with Marsha too. Who says “I put the book on to the table”?

I put something on the table, not on to.
I take something off the table, not off of.

🤷🏼‍♀️

Off of is poor UK English (though fairly standard in US English)

grammarist.com/usage/off-of/

What @GiantKitten said.

I like @MurielSpriggs take on this

Onto the boat
Into the boat
Out of the boat
Off of the boat

Why not?

How does the thread feel about "is is"? as in "The trouble with that is, is that it's all wrong" or "His feeling is, is that onto is one word, off of isn't".

@tattychicken

7am in the morning

ah @tattychicken came to post this as well- so infuriating!!

@unnumber

I like *@MurielSpriggs* take on this

Onto the boat
Into the boat
Out of the boat
Off of the boat

Why not?

As I said earlier @unnumber, from what I've gathered in the past, people just seem to have some sort of gut reaction against "off of", and if they can articulate it at all, it comes down to thinking that "off" and "of" are very similar and that somehow "off of" is wrong for that reason.

But if they try to reason it out syntactically as you've just done they start running into trouble!

(And your post neatly shows that "onto the table" is proper usage - "onto" is actually a compound word for just this situation!)

I don’t like people using ‘reference’ rather than ‘refer to’.

Perceive of

@DolphinDreams

Perceive of

I've not heard this one. Do you think they mean conceive of?

@Katisha

Sneak preview

Station stop

Station stop is correct.

"The next stop will be Chester", then the train stops at a signal, rendering the announcement incorrect.

@Sleepinghyena

Now in a minute

'Now in a minute' usually doesn't mean either 'now' or 'in a minute' though.

More like 'probably soon(ish), but basically whenever I feel like it, and possibly never. Now go away and stop annoying me'.

Or maybe that's just me

Just remembered one of the worst ones on here: "bin him off".

What is it that makes people stick prepositions where they're not needed?