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ect is not short for et cetera

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BlueMountainHusky · 21/10/2021 18:01

It is etc. not bloody ect.

ECT is electroconvulsive therapy.

I have seen it on this web site literally hundreds of times this week alone.

It's like a contagious form of ignorance that is spreading like a plague.

Is it unreasonable to be driven nuts by the sheer number of people who think it's just ect.

If I don't come back, I have seen it again and my head has exploded.

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ShesComeUndone · 21/10/2021 19:16

Sorry I meant to reply to a previous post.

SirenSays · 21/10/2021 19:17

I'm too dyslexic for this. I have to say ET to remind myself and then I doubt myself and don't dare write it.

Howareyouflower · 21/10/2021 19:18

@ButYouGottaHaveASkillJeff

I'd never correct someone on a thread as that is dickish but seeing as this is a specific thread - it's bought not brought! Makes my toes crunch.

You bought the toy in the shop, you brought the toy to the party.

My Essex relatives say this all the time!
Cheeseplantboots · 21/10/2021 19:19

@WhenwillSleephappen

Ah I’ve not noticed that.

But I have noticed rediculous

Me too! Loads of times this week!
heebiejeebies45 · 21/10/2021 19:20

I'm now looking at this wondering if I've ever wrote ect instead of etc. I hope not😂😂

DroopyClematis · 21/10/2021 19:26

'Ect' is deliberate as 'etc' is auto correct.
I suspect that it's because many people say 'ecsetera'' as opposed to 'etsettera.'

It bugs me as it's basic English as taught at primary school, alongside 'would/could/should have.'

It's nothing to do with dyslexia or dialect just lazy pronunciation.

Much like speech therapists no longer correct 'f' for 'th,' in the South East. Eg south becomes' 'saaaf,' 'through' becomes 'froo.'

Kdubs1981 · 21/10/2021 19:26

@DrManhattan

I've noticed that pacific problem
Grin
TertiusLydgate · 21/10/2021 19:30

Contagious ignorance is a good way of describing it.

I swear 'should of/could of' was never seen and it has spread like an infectious disease.

See also 'invite' as a noun.

Franklyfrost · 21/10/2021 19:30

Smeh. Different people have different educations, different distractions and there’s plenty of SEN which make literacy a bitch and don’t mean you’re a thickie.

Dahlietta · 21/10/2021 19:30

Doubling the magic-e makes it a separate syllable; and doubling the consonant makes the preceding vowel short. Hence "huggee" is pronounced to rhyme with "dougie"

@merryhouse I absolutely agree with you. I see this all the time and it drives me mad. See also "I looovvveeeeee you". Loovee?

Chloemol · 21/10/2021 19:31

It annoys me when people say I borrowed so and so £xx. It’s loaned or have given

LemonJuiceFromConcentrate · 21/10/2021 19:35

@Dahlietta

Doubling the magic-e makes it a separate syllable; and doubling the consonant makes the preceding vowel short. Hence "huggee" is pronounced to rhyme with "dougie"

@merryhouse I absolutely agree with you. I see this all the time and it drives me mad. See also "I looovvveeeeee you". Loovee?

And “cuteeeeeeee”.
Natsku · 21/10/2021 19:38

I haven't made the mistake of writing ect. instead of etc. since I was in year 6 and wrote a story in which I put ect. a few times. A lot of red pen action by my teacher and now its burned into my brain. Thank you Mr. Milroy!

Kdubs1981 · 21/10/2021 19:38

@GreenSeaGlass

I keep seeing sentences with verbs missed out which really annoy me, e.g. “it needs washed” “he needs fed” - it looks and sounds so wrong!
This is dialect. This is no big issue. I'm not sure why people should post in standard English on a chat site? Typing as they speak in this context is perfectly acceptable.

People who sneer at others set my teeth on edge. I understand how to speak and write the English language. I was very good at Latin at school. That doesn't meant I always use these rules, especially not on Mumsnet.

DroopyClematis · 21/10/2021 19:40

Oh, another one.
"I itched it" instead of "I scratched it."

Bookworm65 · 21/10/2021 19:40

I was sat.
I was stood.
Aaargh!!!

Mythologies · 21/10/2021 19:42

+WTF are the 20% of people who think YABU??

They will be the posters like me who:
Spend a lot of time on Pedants' Corner chatting about linguistics and shit.
Don't see why posters whose English may not be perfect should feel humiliated by some twat who needs to look Dunning-Kruger up and learn how to use punctuation before they start on other people.
Has lost count how many times a week this type of smug, superior thread is started (but looks forward immensely to pointing out that hubris does indeed lead to hamartia*
Yup
And English teachers who are interested in language and not sneering at people

Geamhradh · 21/10/2021 19:47

@GreenSeaGlass

I keep seeing sentences with verbs missed out which really annoy me, e.g. “it needs washed” “he needs fed” - it looks and sounds so wrong!
It's not wrong. Standard variant used in many regions and, indeed, devolved nations.
UselessASD · 21/10/2021 19:48

Please stick to pedants corner for this sort of post. There are many reasons that posts may not be in standard English and it gets quite tedious seeing sneering threads like this one.

saf1ya7 · 21/10/2021 19:49

When did it become possible to be a ‘social piranha?’

FlibbertyGibbitt · 21/10/2021 19:50

“I seen that the other day “ … just no.

Geamhradh · 21/10/2021 19:50

@DroopyClematis

'Ect' is deliberate as 'etc' is auto correct. I suspect that it's because many people say 'ecsetera'' as opposed to 'etsettera.'

It bugs me as it's basic English as taught at primary school, alongside 'would/could/should have.'

It's nothing to do with dyslexia or dialect just lazy pronunciation.

Much like speech therapists no longer correct 'f' for 'th,' in the South East. Eg south becomes' 'saaaf,' 'through' becomes 'froo.'

Much as speech therapists... Although, obviously, "in the same way that" would be better as we're into writing correctly. Aren't we?
skodadoda · 21/10/2021 19:51

I often see “who’s” instead of “whose”.

Geamhradh · 21/10/2021 19:52

@UselessASD

Please stick to pedants corner for this sort of post. There are many reasons that posts may not be in standard English and it gets quite tedious seeing sneering threads like this one.
Oh lord, don't send them to us. They do venture in occasionally thinking "I've found my people" as they start thinking how clever they are.

We soon sort them out.

Anonymous48 · 21/10/2021 19:52

I think I've found my people!

Yes, I seen those things and it makes me cringe!

How about "she text me"? It's texted!

By the way, I have seen people type things like "it needs washed" instead of "it needs to be washed" and it looks so wrong to me. I didn't realize that was a regional thing. I have never heard people speak like that in real life. Where would that be common?