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ect is not short for et cetera

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BlueMountainHusky · 21/10/2021 18:01

It is etc. not bloody ect.

ECT is electroconvulsive therapy.

I have seen it on this web site literally hundreds of times this week alone.

It's like a contagious form of ignorance that is spreading like a plague.

Is it unreasonable to be driven nuts by the sheer number of people who think it's just ect.

If I don't come back, I have seen it again and my head has exploded.

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Geamhradh · 21/10/2021 18:52

@LoveGrooveDanceParty

WTF are the 20% of people who think YABU?? Confused
They will be the posters like me who: Spend a lot of time on Pedants' Corner chatting about linguistics and shit. Don't see why posters whose English may not be perfect should feel humiliated by some twat who needs to look Dunning-Kruger up and learn how to use punctuation before they start on other people. Has lost count how many times a week this type of smug, superior thread is started (but looks forward immensely to pointing out that hubris does indeed lead to hamartia Wink)
GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/10/2021 18:52

Disinterested! It does not mean ‘not interested’. That is UNinterested.
Disinterested means impartial.

And all the posters asking us to ‘bare with me’ do make me wince.

Off of, is another that gets the steam escaping from under my Grumpy Old Pedant hat.

KirstenBlest · 21/10/2021 18:53

@PyjamaMamma, Which brings me to the question: is it meant to be pronounced ekcetera? I come from a Romance language speaking country and we pronounce it as written, with a ‘t’ but it made me wonder.

it is short for et cetera. not sure how that could ever be eks-etera

The english pronunciation is et SET-uh-ra

The latin pronunciation is et KeT-err-a

Goawaymorningsickeness · 21/10/2021 18:53

Don’t even get me started on gotten.

Words · 21/10/2021 18:54

It was a Private Eye thing, wasn't it?

evenflo3 · 21/10/2021 18:54

As somebody who used to actually deliver ECT, I am always momentarily thrown when I see ect instead of etc!

merryhouse · 21/10/2021 18:56

Mine is really petty... but

"huggee" is not a valid representation of an emphasised "huge"

Doubling the magic-e makes it a separate syllable; and doubling the consonant makes the preceding vowel short. Hence "huggee" is pronounced to rhyme with "dougie"

If you want to imply a huge huge, spell it hhhhhhuuuuuge

Pottedpalm · 21/10/2021 18:57

I have been browsing Ebay for sofas and keep seeing ‘Chase Lounge’ instead of ‘Chaise Longue’.

SapereAude · 21/10/2021 18:58

@Goawaymorningsickeness

Don’t even get me started on gotten.
You don't like the original English verb form? Taken over to America by the first settlers who didn't then allow it to be modified over time? Why?
PyjamaMamma · 21/10/2021 18:59

@KirstenBlest I heard so many people pronouncing it ekcetera that it made me question my own pronunciation.

butterflyze · 21/10/2021 19:01

I see this sort of thing everyday.

Grin
Appleseesaw · 21/10/2021 19:05

I’m sure I’ll make many errors just writing this post, but my pet peeve is ‘none’ when the writer means ‘non’.

SunshineCake1 · 21/10/2021 19:05

@Chipsinthewoods

It would be sad if people had to pass a spelling and grammar test to post for advice on here
It's more than that though.

Like people started saying somethink.

It's not cute, cool or clever. Damn annoying.

LittleDandelionClock · 21/10/2021 19:06

I feel soooo awful about this, but what makes me LOL is when someone has died, and a 'tribute post' gets put on facebook with 'U shud not ov bin taken.' And 'you are now with the angles.' Shock

Somanysocks · 21/10/2021 19:06

I'm pretty good at spelling and agree with all if these but if I see the word resus (in the medical setting) my brain always follows with monkey though I know it's wrong.

Geamhradh · 21/10/2021 19:08

"Like people started saying somethink"

You don't like incorrect pronunciation but don't have issues with incorrect syntax?

Blackpoolhotelier · 21/10/2021 19:08

@AleynEivlys

I'm mortified that anyone would write ect. instead of etc.

(MORTIFIED MEANS VERY EMBARRASSED OR ASHAMED. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE SHOCKED!!!! Angry)

Sky news interviewed a single mum about the electricity price rises last week. She was asked how she felt about it and she said very gravely that she was mortified. I thought to myself " bet she's a mumsnetter". I'd be mortified if I made that mistake on live TV
KirstenBlest · 21/10/2021 19:09

@PyjamaMamma, a lot of people don't consider what the words they are saying mean, so you get things like 'high rate' for irate or 'doggy dog' for dog-eat-dog, or bare for bear.

et cetera's meaning in Latin is "and so forth". Et cetera is often abbreviated to &c

Don't question your own pronunciation - if you get the odd word wrong and people understand you that's fine. If they laugh at you, then they are the one with a problem not you.

People who speak English as a second language often have far better english than those who have it as their mother tongue

SunshineCake1 · 21/10/2021 19:10

@Geamhradh

"Like people started saying somethink"

You don't like incorrect pronunciation but don't have issues with incorrect syntax?

?
Maireas · 21/10/2021 19:11

@LittleDandelionClock

I feel soooo awful about this, but what makes me LOL is when someone has died, and a 'tribute post' gets put on facebook with 'U shud not ov bin taken.' And 'you are now with the angles.' Shock
😂😂😂
muddyford · 21/10/2021 19:11

How about 'of' instead of 'have' in 'would of', 'should of'?

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/10/2021 19:13

I can spell but sometimes typing on my phone leads to errors.

pepperaunt · 21/10/2021 19:15

Is no one else horrified by “yay” or nay???

ShesComeUndone · 21/10/2021 19:16

This could be because feint is used to describe a particular type of line on ruled paper.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruled_paper

GreenSeaGlass · 21/10/2021 19:16

I keep seeing sentences with verbs missed out which really annoy me, e.g. “it needs washed” “he needs fed” - it looks and sounds so wrong!