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Pedants' corner

Pedants unite! Please come & vote for “another think coming”!

185 replies

GiantKitten · 04/09/2019 17:38

Dominic Grieve is reported to have said “another thing”!
In the Commons Shock

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OP posts:
lazylinguist · 06/09/2019 22:11

Thing thing thing. Think makes no sense.

You can say it as much as you like but it's wrong. If you THINK that, you've got another THINK coming. Look it up!

Jux · 07/09/2019 02:05

Think! Of course it's think, people are so bloody ignorant these days!

Jux · 07/09/2019 02:12

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Jux · 07/09/2019 02:19

If you think that (ie [first thought] I'm going to lend you 20 grand), then you've another think coming (ie [next thought on its way to you] I'm NOT going to lend you 20 grand).

CatteStreet · 07/09/2019 07:22

'The whole reason that this [idiom] became used is due to the repetition of the word think in its two senses. Most phrases like this have something playful — repetition, unexpected imagery etc'

Spot on. #TeamThink

CatteStreet · 07/09/2019 07:24

It's not even necessary, for the phrase to work, for 'think' to actually be usable as a noun (although it clearly is). In fact, the mild ungrammaticality gives the phrase (which after all is supposed to be a somewhat threatening warning) more force.

PurpleWithRed · 07/09/2019 07:28

Think.

Why is this discussion evening happening? Thing makes no sense at all. I am traumatised.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 07/09/2019 07:41

Still thing.

Thing thing thing. Think makes no sense.

Message for you here

MashedSpud · 07/09/2019 07:45

It’s thing.

🙄

CatteStreet · 07/09/2019 07:45

It's happening because, first, the difference between 'thing' and 'think', spoken in this particular combination of words (preceding the k sound at the beginning of 'coming') and in many accents, is minimal, and, second, there is just about a basis for interpretation of 'thing' as making sense (even though it doesn't if you consider the structure of the idiom), similarly to how 'adverse' sort of makes sense even though it's 'averse'.

CatteStreet · 07/09/2019 07:46

(in phrases such as 'I'm not averse to a glass of wine every now and then')

iklboo · 07/09/2019 10:45

It’s thing.

No it's not.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 07/09/2019 11:52

MashedSpud - am hoping you're now saying that just to wind people up but am also worried that you actually really believe that.

MildThing · 07/09/2019 11:55

It is think.

The history of usage of the phrase proves this.

Thing has become commonplace due to mishearing.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 07/09/2019 11:56

On the plus side, some of the posters on this thread are making me feel MUCH better about the rate at which my Year 10s are able to recognise and learn from their mistakes.

cornstarch · 07/09/2019 11:56

Think

Fifthtimelucky · 07/09/2019 14:51

Definitely 'think '. I've never heard anyone say 'thing' or realised it was common.

pigsDOfly · 07/09/2019 16:55

It's interesting to see so many posters on a thread in Pedants' corner who clearly aren't pedants.

If they were pedants they'd know it's think.

Tartyflette · 07/09/2019 17:36

Oh Jux you're so right, again. I cringe when people say, (usually nodding sagely all the while)
"well of course, the proof is in the pudding."
No it's fucking well not!

Yika · 07/09/2019 17:39

It is definitely thinK.

GreigLaidlawsbarofsoap · 07/09/2019 18:38

#teamthink

Just another little vote here!

pigsDOfly · 07/09/2019 18:53

@Tartyflette Whenever I hear someone say 'the proof is in the pudding' I always get a mental image of someone with their hands stuck in an old fashioned suet pudding rooting around for whatever proof they think might be in there.

For some reason it annoys me more than it should.

I fear that many of these old sayings are going a similar way and in the process losing their meaning and, usually, ceasing to make any sense.

DadDadDad · 07/09/2019 19:07

It's interesting to see so many posters on a thread in Pedants' corner who clearly aren't pedants.

If they were pedants they'd know it's think.

I wouldn't be quite so emphatic, pigsDOfly, but I pretty much agree with you.

I was someone who said "thing" most of my life. When I was confronted with "think", I didn't insist I was right, I went away and looked for evidence. (I linked to some earlier in this thread, and even got corrected on part of what I said, which I welcome). It becomes clear that the theory that "think" came first (with the witty play on "think" being repeated) and "thing" being a mishearing is much more convincing than the alternatives.

Good pedantry weighs up what dictionaries say, examples from good writers, and the usage of competent speakers - it doesn't (just!) rely on one's own prejudice.

pigsDOfly · 07/09/2019 19:44

It's not my prejudice DadDadDad.

I'm aware that there is an opinion that 'thing' is correct but having looked into it as much as I felt was necessary and, having lived a fairly long life during which I've read the works of a great many 'good' writers and never, ever heard any 'competent speakers' use the word thing in this context. I have concluded that 'think' is very likely correct.

My post about the pedants on here who clearly aren't pedants was written 'tongue in cheek'. Perhaps I should have put a smiley in my post so that people would understand.

UrsulaPandress · 07/09/2019 20:25

I’m making a rice pudding tomorrow. It will be eaten. Shall I provide proof?