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French phrases

104 replies

toadgirl · 28/07/2016 13:07

I don't speak French and I only did an A-Level in French many moons ago, so I am not claiming to be an expert here.

However, here are a couple of examples that drive me crazy:-

Fox paws (faux pas)
Percy or per say (per se)

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ShotgunNotDoingThePans · 28/07/2016 15:24

It's le I think Berries.

MagzFarquarson · 28/07/2016 15:35

It's 'une' personne, therefore 'la'. Unless it's someone's surname perhaps? As in 'Le Trust de Pierre Personne'. Just guessing.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans · 28/07/2016 16:36

Sorry you're right Magz Blush

Thomasisintraining · 28/07/2016 18:35

We pronounce 'filet' and 'valet' the French way too in most circumstances but there is a word fillet we use too which I presume is the pronounication you were thinking of Seneca. Herb is H erb but being Irish H is haitch so that is perhaps not surprising.

BendydickCuminsnatch · 28/07/2016 18:45

Yes, fillet and filet are pronounced differently IMO. Filet-o-fish in America is funny as surely it should be filet-au-poisson OR fillet-o-fish? At the mo it's a mix of French and English Grin (I'm just being facetious btw)

BendydickCuminsnatch · 28/07/2016 18:46

Filet filet filet. Lost all meaning now!

Kreeshsheesh · 28/07/2016 18:53

Americans pronounce Italian words correctly - orEgano instead of oregAno. I love that. I also love that they use logical spelling like 'prolog'. It makes more sense than our adaptation of Frencg spellings imp. I say this as a French speaker. Grin

KickAssAngel · 28/07/2016 19:03

I live in the US. It still confuses me that they say 'filet' the French way, but 'valet' with the T.

So fil-ay-of fish (which should have the T because of the vowel), but they get a car val-et-ed.

Grrr.

And they pronounce the German ei and ie the opposite way from how I was taught when learning German at school.

But where does one draw the line? Surely referring to Par-ee sounds a bit wankerish?

MagzFarquarson · 28/07/2016 19:07

Local night-club 'Rendez-Vous' - everyone (including me) calls it Rendy-voooos.

Tbf, you'd get laughed at if you pronounced the right way. Grin

SenecaFalls · 28/07/2016 20:01

Filet-o-fish is fine just as you would say a filet of steak in the US. Americans increasingly don't differentiate between filet and fillet and they are both almost always pronounced fi-lay.

Americans pronounce "valet" as va-lay. Has the British pronunciation changed for a manservant in the UK? At least on Downton Abbey, it's val-et with the t pronounced. Of course, I imagine that no one other than Prince Charles actually has one these days. The primary use of the word in the US is for valet parking.

KickAssAngel · 28/07/2016 22:20

Seneca - round her (MI) it is definitely a fil-ey of fish from McDonalds, no T.

And when getting a car cleaned it is valeT.

Can't remember about parking - I think we just say 'I'm getting my car parked'.

I would always say a French word ending in 'et' to rhyme with ballet. But then I grew up in Kent and we used to go to France for day trips so maybe I'm out of touch with how the rest of England says things.

Just remembered - forces always talk about being billeTed, don't they? We're horribly inconsistent about how to say foreign words.

Double Entendre annoys me, to.
And the American for Notre Dame Shock

KickAssAngel · 28/07/2016 22:23

Oh, and 'Filet' is said more f'-LAAAAY than FI-le(t). It's almost becoming a different word.

SenecaFalls · 28/07/2016 23:02

I have never heard anyone pronounce the final t in fillet or filet in the US anywhere. Where I live "valet" is always with no "t" sound no matter the context.

I live in the South and lived in New Orleans for several years while young so that has affected my pronunciation of French words.

overthehillandroundthemountain · 28/07/2016 23:07

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ShotgunNotDoingThePans · 28/07/2016 23:48

Hmm I say 'Le Croo-zay' because that's how my ils pronounced it years ago when they first started going on about buying it. Would like to know the correct pronunciation as well though. 'Le Crer-zey?'

overthehillandroundthemountain · 28/07/2016 23:50

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SenecaFalls · 28/07/2016 23:52

I say Le Creuset like this

www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+pronounce+le+creuset

ExitPursuedByABear · 28/07/2016 23:56

I had to correct soneone's cv when he claimed to be ofay with some procedures.

Bless him for trying but really .............

toadgirl · 31/07/2016 19:35

toot-suite

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MrsMillions · 31/07/2016 19:48

I get annoyed by:

  • "on route" rather than "en route"
  • fiancé/fiancée errors (and was silently gutted when now-DH got me a Valentines Card addressed to "my fiancé"...think card manufacturers should make it clearer for purchasers which gender such cards are for!)
  • beau/belle - e.g. "she is so beau" - cringeworthy franglais phrase as it is and then they've not even got the right version of the word.

Grrrr

Leirope · 02/08/2016 17:52

Today I saw 'bone apple tea'...

BendydickCuminsnatch · 02/08/2016 18:43

No you did NOT lei!!! ShockShockShock

Surely that was some kind of purposeful pun, as 'bone apple tea' sounds disgusting...? I hope no-one actually thinks that is the correct phrase!! Grin

StealthPolarBear · 02/08/2016 18:44

What's it meant to be

LockedOutOfMN · 02/08/2016 18:51

overthehillandroundthemountain I'm French and I say "le crerr-zay" with the stress on the first syllable of creuset.

One that makes me chuckle is "mano a mano" (hand to hand - Spanish) used to mean "man to man".

BerriesandLeaves Yes it's une personne (also personne means no one but then it doesn't have a le or la).

I couldn't understand what La Roux was when I first heard it (turned out to be a singer with a made up pseudonym. Very confusing for those who are slow on the uptake like me).

Leirope · 02/08/2016 18:59

Bon appetit! I had to say it a couple of times before I worked it out.

Bendy maybe it's the next home bone broth...