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ADHD son getting up for work

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DesperatelySeekingHelp · 07/09/2025 23:28

DS is 21. He was out of work for a year but now has a job that he loved for 3 months but the novelty is wearing off as is typical of ADHD.
He is going out most nights and it is proving really difficult to get him up for work without a row and he is starting to get in late.
I know people will say he’s 21 and he needs to take responsibility but I honestly can’t find it in me to let him lose his job for being late so I call him every morning.
He spends all his wages within first two weeks and then doesn’t have money to get to work so we have to sub him.

I can’t kick him out, he would lose his job within a month. I can’t tell him not to go out as he is 21.

all of his traits are typical of ADHD. He is medicated so once at work he can focus.

am at my wits end. Don’t know what to do.

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Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 07/09/2025 23:35

Like you say its tricky because he's 21 so should really be responsible for getting enough sleep ie. Not out every night and for getting himself up. Not sure really what advise to give here other than many many alarms and if its not to your detriment of lack of sleep yourself then keep getting him up.

As for his wages could you sit down with him and go through his outgoings, portion that off to a separate account that he can't easily withdraw from and then split the rest of his money into 4/5 weeks (depending on how and when he is paid) and you give him each weeks money and once it's spent then tough, no more nights out/take aways until the following week and any travel expenses come out of the following weeks money rather than constantly subbing him?

I will say I don't have much experience with ADHD (DS5 is suspected but obviously still very young so not come across this type of problem) so if this is crap advice I apologise, I just didn't want to read and run! Ultimately at some stage he is going to have to take responsibility for these things so hopefully some more knowledgeable posters will be along soon

stayathomer · 07/09/2025 23:38

I think talk to him too, ask him does he love earning and remind him how crap it is to be job hunting today. Also yes, a certain amount put away then into the bank.

Soontobe60 · 07/09/2025 23:38

All of his traits are also typical of a 21 year old man child whose parents have mollycoddled him all his life.
He has ADHD, he has medication for it, he needs to take responsibility for his own health needs and not rely on you to control his life for him.

Slurple · 07/09/2025 23:44

You don't have to sub him, though. You're choosing to, and it's enabling him to continue spending all his money in the first fortnight.
I'm not advocating withdrawing all support without notice. But you have to accept yourself and communicate to him that these are not your responsibilities. And whilst you're taking responsibility for making his money stretch/getting him up in the morning, he is unable to grow into the man he needs to be to hold down a job.

Sit him down and tell him that you've misjudged things, that you've allowed him to rely too heavily on you and have taken on responsibilities that are not yours - namely waking him up in the morning and giving him cash when he doesn't budget properly. State that you are going to stop those things from X date, so that he can grow in the skills he needs to. Offer to budget with him to help his money last if he needs support with that, or support him to get an alarm. There may well be some skills lagging going on, but that doesn't mean it's going to help him if you do those things for him.

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2025 23:45

At what point are you going to let him be responsible for himself and allow him to fail? 25.? 30?

Until you force him to be responsible for himself, you are going to parent him and infantilised him and he'll take the piss because he can.

He's not 18. He's 21.

He will expect the looking after by a future gf. Don't saddle her with a man-child.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 07/09/2025 23:50

I would take a chunk his wages off him as rent and then give him some back when it runs out but tell him
you’re saving it for him
so he’s really spending from his pot

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 07/09/2025 23:51

I think you should also talk him through time blindness of adhd and once he understands that it might glow him planning his mornings

ILoveWhales · 07/09/2025 23:52

Soontobe60 · 07/09/2025 23:38

All of his traits are also typical of a 21 year old man child whose parents have mollycoddled him all his life.
He has ADHD, he has medication for it, he needs to take responsibility for his own health needs and not rely on you to control his life for him.

Quite. He can lose his job because if he loses his job he.'ll realize he can't do what he wants or he'll lose his job.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/09/2025 23:56

Soontobe60 · 07/09/2025 23:38

All of his traits are also typical of a 21 year old man child whose parents have mollycoddled him all his life.
He has ADHD, he has medication for it, he needs to take responsibility for his own health needs and not rely on you to control his life for him.

Medication lasts about 8 hours.

Going to bed late is typical for ADHD. They are owls.

So is the blowing all the money.

Its fuck all to do with parenting.

You have a disabled child OP. He needs more support than an NT.

DB was like this. My poor DM. He improved as he got older.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 07/09/2025 23:58

Losing his job is the consequences of his actions.

Stop subbing him.

He won't be going out pissing away his wages when he loses his job. ADHD especially medicated is not an excuse to be irresponsible. He manages fine to go out with his mates, why can't he manage to do other adult things? Like getting himself up.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/09/2025 00:01

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 07/09/2025 23:58

Losing his job is the consequences of his actions.

Stop subbing him.

He won't be going out pissing away his wages when he loses his job. ADHD especially medicated is not an excuse to be irresponsible. He manages fine to go out with his mates, why can't he manage to do other adult things? Like getting himself up.

Medication lasts 6-8 hours. It’s enough to get through a work or school day. So ‘being medicated’ isn’t a miracle worker.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 00:07

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/09/2025 00:01

Medication lasts 6-8 hours. It’s enough to get through a work or school day. So ‘being medicated’ isn’t a miracle worker.

Edited

So?

He's still a grown adult that has a responsibility to keep his job.

DesperatelySeekingHelp · 08/09/2025 00:25

Yea as others have said. The medication only lasts 6 hours. Enough to help him concentrate at work. Wears off at about 4-5pm which means he is fidgety when he gets home so goes out. It doesn’t help that his friendship group have just this year finished uni and a lot of them don’t have jobs yet.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/09/2025 00:32

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 00:07

So?

He's still a grown adult that has a responsibility to keep his job.

Do you know anything about ADHD?

lottiestars76 · 08/09/2025 00:56

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 00:07

So?

He's still a grown adult that has a responsibility to keep his job.

He’s a full grown DISABLED adult that has a responsibility you mean? He’s not just abit lazy or can’t be bothered? Hate this ableist attitude and it’s comments like this that are so disgusting and damaging, he isn’t NT so you cannot speak of his behaviour within this situation as if he is? It’s like telling a blind person to suck it up and try and read like every other grown adult does. You’d never dream of doing that, because it’s offensive and completely ridiculous so why would you try and offer crap outdated advice to someone with a neurological disability?

@DesperatelySeekingHelpSomething is going on right now that’s clearly effecting him and causing his adhd symptoms to be worse, even though he’s medicated. The going out every night whilst typical of a 21 year old it’s also typical of an adhd person seeking dopamine and living impulsively. Research has found that almost everyone diagnosed with ADHD struggles with some sort of sleep issue, and a large amount suffer with delayed sleep phase syndrome. Which means he could find it almost impossible no matter how physically tired he is, to switch his mind and brain off to go to sleep until it’s the early hours of the morning. Going out the night before will impact it, however, if he stayed in and tried to sleep early, this would take months and months of practicing good sleep hygiene, consistent routines to calm his brain, no screen time , no caffeine etc - again non of that is dopamine inducing, so already going to be a huge struggle for someone with ADHD. Then when he wakes , until his medication kicks in ( which will usually take around an hour if it’s the standard slow release) he will be struggling with sleep inertia, that can last hours sometimes, and coupled with a hangover from drinking it would be almost impossible for him to wake up on time I’d imagine. This is where research and education around ADHD is so important. Not just for your son, but for you all as a family. He will feel absolutely awful that he cannot function in the mornings, that something that’s seen as such an easy thing for most is a huge mammoth task to him. Yeah , the going out and getting drunk is annoying, but he’s 21, on medication whilst still not having a properly developed brain, trying to adult whilst hormones are in play with his medication. By evening his meds have worn off so adhd is back full force so dopamine seeking is huge. Will also no doubt be a people pleaser and hate to say no, so will go out and mask and play the part even if sometimes he doesn’t want to do it.

Does his employer know he has an ADHD diagnosis? I would advise him to inform them if not straight away and ask for a formal meeting to discuss a risk assessment and a meeting around reasonable adjustments in the workplace. You don’t mention what he does, but if it is a role that allows him to start at various times without too much of an interruption to the job role, then that’s what he needs to be asking for. Flexible work schedule that could include a staggered start time, so he comes in later but may leave later to make up the time. He might have several breaks throughout the day to help him not get overwhelmed and overstimulated so he doesn’t burn out. He could even speak about working from home ( if this is the kind of job that might allow this, obviously there are certain jobs and industries where this wouldn’t be possible). Is he also aware he should be eating protein throughout the day to help get the best impact from his medication? Especially with breakfast. The difference in not eating anything and something protein heavy is huge and regularly snacking on protein rich foods throughout the day kicks the medication in again and helps it last as long as it can. If it is the case that his medication is wearing off too soon, meaning he slips into his usual dopamine seeking habits, he could speak with his prescriber and ask if he could get some top up meds. For example dexamfetamine, similar to slow release meds he’s on but short release and lasts only 4 hours so it prevents any crash happening when the first meds where off and will keep him more focused and not as likely to dopamine ‘ hunt’ then if his meds have completely worn off.

It’s easy to get frustrated and annoyed, we are in an NT world and everyone is expected to fit into that way of life and if not they are a failure. Self worth and low self esteem is a massive part of living with ADHD. To constantly have that voice around your head telling you how bad you are at stuff you are rubbish, failing. Not to mention people in your life will say things like ‘ why can’t you just do this’ or ‘ stop being lazy’ so it becomes ingrained in us and we just assume that’s how we are. You mention the novelty of the job has worn off, this was me when I was undiagnosed for years, 3 months in, bored and wanting something else. But now I’m diagnosed and medicated I’ve finally realised it wasn’t that really, it was the low self worth and self doubt that made me apply for jobs that were way below my ability, and they just didn’t challenge me enough, or make me use my full ability, so that’s what made me bored. It could be a similar thing with your son.

You are actually doing a wonderful thing in reminding him to wake up, and it’s not surprising how frustrated or worried it makes you feel, he is older now so you would hope these duties as parents would get less and less, but the fact you are helping and caring will mean a lot to him. It could be that right now this job just doesn’t suit him, but that’s fine , maybe for now he would be better suited in a job that’s more afternoon work? Or even bar work or somewhere that offers night shifts? He’s still young, so that’s really positive that he has a diagnosis and meds. He has time now to figure out systems and strategies to help him navigate this world with his brain wired differently, I’d have given anything to have been in his shoes at 21, with parents supporting me with my diagnosis and being medicated and having an answer to why I felt different!

You are being really supportive and trying to find ways to help and that’s amazing, just sit down and have an honest and open discussion with him, see what he thinks of all this.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 01:09

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/09/2025 00:32

Do you know anything about ADHD?

Yes my bf has ADHD. He gets himself to work and acts like a responsible adult and has done since he was 19 or he would be homeless. He has activities and interests to manage his ADHD.

@lottiestars76 I'm not NT for a start. I'm autistic (profoundly according to assesment). How dare you accuse me for ablism when you just assume I'm NT because you don't like my opinion. Several members of my family also have ADHD and autism.

How many women are given the same coddling? We are expected to work, raise children and enable men who refuse to get themselves up for work because they are out all night with their unemployed mates.

lottiestars76 · 08/09/2025 01:38

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 01:09

Yes my bf has ADHD. He gets himself to work and acts like a responsible adult and has done since he was 19 or he would be homeless. He has activities and interests to manage his ADHD.

@lottiestars76 I'm not NT for a start. I'm autistic (profoundly according to assesment). How dare you accuse me for ablism when you just assume I'm NT because you don't like my opinion. Several members of my family also have ADHD and autism.

How many women are given the same coddling? We are expected to work, raise children and enable men who refuse to get themselves up for work because they are out all night with their unemployed mates.

I’m accusing you of ableism because your comment absolutely reeked of it, and to be frank, the fact you have now announced you are infact not NT, makes what you said so much worse on an even bigger scale. We have to navigate this world with uneducated people, people with outdated views and opinions and you would hope other ND people would understand that, and not pass off the same old damaging rhetoric that’s been used against us for decades. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem to be the case here. I couldn’t give an ounce of a care that your partner has ADHD, if you are comparing his behaviour with this strangers son online. If you have met one person with ADHD you have met one person with ADHD. You, as someone with a neuro divergent diagnosis should be well aware of that, and realise that what might come quite naturally to your partner, doesn’t to thousands and thousands of other adhd diagnosed people around the world.

Aside from all of that, your original comment was neither helpful nor informative. Just a criticism really covered in judgement, ‘ so he’s a full grown adult’ all things I’d have a good guess the OP already knows, and already has thought about telling him to grow up and get on with it. Not going to work, for most ADHD people anyway, not your partner who’s cracked doing life with ADHD.

Im so confused at your point about women , because I agree women do not get the same treatment when it comes to,anything really let’s be honest, but when it comes to adhd, the reason it’s so highly diagnosed now is because for years and years the diagnostic criteria was gender biased- girls present very differently to boys and this has literally in the past 5-8 years only been researched and introduced into assessment criteria.
I myself am a mother of 3 daughters, who has struggled through my life for 35 years to get it to where it is now. I have been close to breakdowns more than I can count and I’ve done my best for my girls when I’ve physically and mentally felt at my worst. But even feeling like that, feeling like I’ve been let down by services my entire life, by my school, work, family, I’d never use that as a reason to turn my nose and not extend help and support to someone suffering the same disability as me because they happen to be a man. You are angry that as a woman who’s ND you have been treated poorly so your response is to offer that same treatment to another ND individual who’s struggling? Makes absolutely no sense. No matter how disenfranchised I feel by the way systems have been created to actively go against me, I’d never take that out on someone in a similar position? I’d fight the top, I’d rally for change and try and get the people that actually can make a difference to how we are all treated ,to hear me, what good does it do offering out useless, damaging advice and the reason behind it being ‘ yeah well I’ve been treated worse?’ Failing before you have even started , and the rich powerful people creating all these living conditions laugh and carry on.

Maybe read back at my earlier response in a few years when your partner inevitably does reach a point where he’s struggling ( because ADHD, diagnosis and medication isn’t linear, as I’m sure you know being ND) and take some advice from it, because its not diagnosed and medicated and bam I’m cured! It’s a life long disability that requires constant work and adjustments to try and thrive in a world that isn’t made for us.

Hope that helps, I’m sure it won’t but I’m bored now ( adhd! ) so won’t be responding.

marnieMiaou · 08/09/2025 02:01

I dont think it is ableist to say going out drinking til late on a 'school night' is chosen behaviour. I have adhd but i make a conscious effort to choose activities to promote sleep. My dds partner (23) has really bad adhd and works as a chef on a rotating shift pattern. Sometimes he has to be up at 5am if he is on breakfasts and it's hard, very hard but he knows he and dd have a mortgage to pay, so he does it because he does not want to shirk his responsibility ! I think you need to look at how much you are infantilising your adult son and whether it is ultimately helping him or hurting him.

sometimesidobutothersidont · 08/09/2025 02:07

Thing is … here’s the pattern.

So the OP says he has to learn his lesson and he loses his job.

Does that teach him a short, sharp lesson? Does it mean when he gets another job (eventually; not easy with a dismissal on your record) he will not make the same mistake and earnestly go to bed on time?

no. Because disability doesn’t work like that. You might as well say that someone with a visual impairment will make more effort to read the text next time, won’t they?

And here is the rub, every time something like this happens and he loses a job or whatever his self esteem goes down a notch and that’s harder to sort out than a job after dismissal.

so I’d carry on quite honestly. At the moment he needs support. 21 is still very young, ADHD or not.

HoppingPavlova · 08/09/2025 02:16

I have one with rip roaring ADHD (as well as ASD and many other things). When they come home from work, where their meds work really well, they then head out, running, exercise, sport, for hours to basically physically/mentally exhaust themselves. They then have dinner, get online and stay up too late on the computer playing games with friends, but not as late as they would have done if they hadn’t gone out earlier. They could skip the exercise component but that would likely mean not going to bed at all before it was time to get up for work. Just because they have ADHD (and many other ND labels) doesn’t give them a free pass from having to find a responsible route to manage their life!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/09/2025 03:55

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 08/09/2025 01:09

Yes my bf has ADHD. He gets himself to work and acts like a responsible adult and has done since he was 19 or he would be homeless. He has activities and interests to manage his ADHD.

@lottiestars76 I'm not NT for a start. I'm autistic (profoundly according to assesment). How dare you accuse me for ablism when you just assume I'm NT because you don't like my opinion. Several members of my family also have ADHD and autism.

How many women are given the same coddling? We are expected to work, raise children and enable men who refuse to get themselves up for work because they are out all night with their unemployed mates.

My adhd dd gets coddled. Shes 19.

Severe adhd. Extreme anxiety. She can’t even catch a bus on her own. She often postpones things or procrastinates.

There are degrees of it. Your bf sounds high functioning.

Anon4778 · 08/09/2025 05:55

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/09/2025 23:56

Medication lasts about 8 hours.

Going to bed late is typical for ADHD. They are owls.

So is the blowing all the money.

Its fuck all to do with parenting.

You have a disabled child OP. He needs more support than an NT.

DB was like this. My poor DM. He improved as he got older.

Agree this is absolutely typical of ADHD and not to do with parenting. My 17 year old daughter is exactly the same.

Tablesandchairs23 · 08/09/2025 06:12

I know several people with adhd who are very capable of running their own lives. Youre are babying him. Like all young adults he has to find a solution to his own problems.

ocelot3 · 08/09/2025 06:27

What @lottiestars76 says. There is a huge difference between responses here that really know about this condition and those that are applying ‘normal logic’ to the situation without understanding ADHD I think . It’s punishing for a parent who is organised, neuro typical and wants the best for their DC - you have my sympathy OP. You obviously don’t want him to lose his job so I can completely understand why you are doing what you are doing.

ForFunGoose · 08/09/2025 06:34

How is the job market where you are OP?
My ds 23 changed jobs a lot in his late teens early 20’s. I used to despair at how casually he treated work but he always found a new job once he tired of one. He needed to try out a lot more rolls to find one he liked and now he’s an excellent employee. In the right place he will thrive so I would encourage him to job hunt as soon as he gets bored. He doesn’t need a job for life at 21, he needs to experience and experiment.

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