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Empty nest pain

41 replies

Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 10:41

DC haven't even left home yet, but it won't be long. They are 19 and 20. The thought of them leaving is a like a knife to my heart. They are working now and some days when they leave, I hide myself in the loo and have a secret weep. DH doesn't understand and looks at me like I have two heads. Menopause and ageing parents are also in the mix.

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Fedupofdiets · 30/01/2023 11:04

Ah OP I get you, I have dc of a similar age one has already left for uni and the other one goes this year. I thought I would miss my DD so much I used to cry just thinking of it but now I don't. She is so happy and having a wonderful time I've come to realise I didn't have dc to keep them with me forever. I love my freedom and am now looking forward to DS leaving too - he is more than ready for his adventures. I take peace knowing she's living a brilliant life and that makes happy, I just hope DS will settle in as well as she has.

Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 11:17

Fedupwithdiets perhaps the thought of it is worse than the actual reality of it. I totally understand what you are saying, you didn't have DC to keep them with, and I feel the same but then the pain in my heart starts.. I resented DM for not letting me go when I was DC age, and here I am in the same boat feeling ashamed that I didn't understand how DM was feeling. DM used to phone me all the time and make me feel guilty for not visiting, I was just doing normal 20 year old stuff like spending time with my boyfriend (now DH).

What do I do with the freedom? I have such a hole in my heart... sorry need to stop now otherwise will blub

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FrenchandSaunders · 30/01/2023 11:31

It's a hard stage OP, going through the menopause, elderly pants and DCs flying the nest. Very difficult. I have two DDs who are 21. One left for uni at 18 and stayed in her uni city. The other is still at home, working so we don't see a lot of her. You do get used to it. Can you plan a weekend or holiday with DH.

Fedupofdiets · 30/01/2023 11:57

I think you do get used to it. I have been on my own with my 2 for six years and we are very close, especially DD and I but we have a new normal now. We message every day even just to touch base and usually face time once or twice a week. She is having a blast and I am happy and content in that thought, I am always at the end of a phone and I am usually the first person she calls if she is having a rough time which I love. They are becoming adults and it is a transition for us all but honestly you will get used to it and even enjoy it. I am looking forward to being able to go on holiday when I want, not having to think whats for tea, no piles of dirty washing. I love them dearly but I have had to try and let go and let them live their own lives with a little guidance when needed 🙂

Fedupofdiets · 30/01/2023 11:59

DD has already told me she is staying in her Uni town for the summer holiday and she is off skiing at Easter instead of thinking how much I miss her I think how bloody wonderful she is living life her way. It will come, just be kind to yourself the feelings are normal when you love them so much.

Peach2021 · 30/01/2023 12:01

Talking to a friend about this just yesterday - she said "if you've done your job well as their mum, then they will fledge and go off into the world and live their lives, and you can be proud of that"...not to say there won't be a lump in my throat, but I am keeping this as my mantra for when the time comes !

gogohmm · 30/01/2023 12:03

I wouldn't worry yet, they have a habit of lingering longer these days and coming back! We have2 adult dc who are rather comfortable here Confused

RuthW · 30/01/2023 12:06

First few weeks were hard. Then I absolutely loved it.

She came back four years later with no plans to go again.

Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 12:15

Tried talking to DH about it when I felt particularly low, he just looked at me like I had two heads. How do I be kind to myself Fedupofdiets ? All I can feel is pain. Makes it 100 times worse that perfect sister in law is coping with empty nest OK. I've always felt in her shadow since I married DH, MIL holds her in high esteem and I'm not good enough for her darling boy

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bigbluebus · 30/01/2023 12:18

With rental and house prices so high they may not be leaving as soon as you think!
DS is back home after a few years away at Uni, desperately trying to save up to buy a house (pointless renting as he'd never be able to save and professional flat/house shares aren't really a thing around here). He'll have a deposit but won't be able to get a big enough mortgage until he's been promoted.

welshpolarbear · 30/01/2023 12:24

I feel like this sometimes and my DS is only 10! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Highlighta · 30/01/2023 12:26

OP, I get you.

My youngest (therefore my baby really) left first at age not quite 19. It was quite a sudden thing as an opportunity arose which I didn't have time to digest, before she was off. It hit me hard, as for one she and I are very close, but also she had a rough few years prior, and basically I was worried how she would cope. And I am a single parent.

I feel like I cried for at least 2 months solid. We could always speak just whenever as she was in a different time zone and far away, so some days I didn't get to speak to her at all, which made things so much harder.

Just as an aside, it was during the year that the Dr decided that I was actually having enough symptoms in peri to warrant going onto hrt, so I do think that helped somewhat.

I think you do just get used to your new routine, that is what I found so very difficult, and my whole life revolved around her, school runs, medical appointments special meals/ etc etc. I really did feel like I didn't know what to do with myself some days, as our days were usually just so full on busy.

I didn't really have a proper heads up, I thought my eldest would leave first to be honest, so the sudden change didn't help. As I thought about it, I think if I had prepared a bit better, I would have looked into starting some new hobby, getting my head around starting to go to meet up groups etc. Just changing up from the normal day to day routine.

Even now almost a year in, I still find I need to have some 'goal" to work towards, otherwise I start to get anxious. So i re-did some things in the house so it was all nice for her when she came home for a break, Christmas was hard as she couldn't make it home, so I just plunged myself into having everyone else over, doing all the food, just generally keeping busy.

One of the things that annoyed me was that some people make fun of it. Oh they say, sniggering, empty nest syndrome, are you broody?.... I don't know why some people link empty nest with being broody, it is not that feeling at all (well not for me).

Can I just say now, that she is flourishing so much more that I could imagine. She is enjoying life and absorbing everything that she can. She would not have been able to do this at home in our small town. We speak when we can, and I am always the first to know if she is upset, down, stressed.... as she knows I am always here, perhaps only on the end of the phone. But she knows her safe space is here if she needs it. I know I have done the best I could for her, to grow into a strong, brave adult.

Wow this turned out long. I still need an outlet from time to time as well. A year isn't all that long ago really.

So I really do get it OP.

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Highlighta · 30/01/2023 12:33

Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 12:15

Tried talking to DH about it when I felt particularly low, he just looked at me like I had two heads. How do I be kind to myself Fedupofdiets ? All I can feel is pain. Makes it 100 times worse that perfect sister in law is coping with empty nest OK. I've always felt in her shadow since I married DH, MIL holds her in high esteem and I'm not good enough for her darling boy

You only see what people want to you see.

I would take a bet that your sil isn't coping quite as well as she makes out.

Some days I am sure people thought that about me too, as I was just factual about things if people asked me. I could not go into detail, otherwise I would be blubbering away after 5 minutes.

When I got home though.... into the house that not a thing was out of place in, then all the tears flowed again.

(I never thought I would say it but I quite miss a busy messy house, even folding piles of laundry....)

KangarooKenny · 30/01/2023 12:36

I wholly understand 💐
Ive decided that I need to find a new life when the youngest goes, but that will be hard when I’ve dedicated 20+ years of my life to them.

Fedupofdiets · 30/01/2023 12:48

When I say 'be kind' to yourself I mean accept that this is a normal way to feel and go with it. Just because others may (on the surface even) find it easier to 'let go' does not mean you will and thats ok.

Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 13:24

Thanks Fedupwithdiets my own DM turned to alcohol when I left home as her way of coping so am mindful of that

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Mumtothreeandadog · 30/01/2023 17:20

How long does it take until the new normal becomes normal

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Alsoplayspiccolo · 01/02/2023 20:19

I completely empathise, OP.
My DCs are 19 and 16.
DD went to uni in September and DS quite unexpectedly went to boarding school for 6th form.

They are both very happy in their new lives, which is great, and DH and I enjoy having time and space to ourselves BUT my heart feels like it’s been torn into pieces and parts of it taken with them.
I cry every time they leave (not in front of them); it feels wrong to be “leaving” them somewhere that’s not with us.
The thought of them leaving for good sometime in the future is too awful right now.

All that said, I can see how they’re both growing into their own people, and how close we are as a family (they both love coming home and we have fun together when they’re back), so that makes me happy.

To ease missing them, I’ve tried to create a positive new routine - exercise, yoga, little trips out with DH, cooking lovely food for 2, sending them little treats in the post etc.
Ive also gone onto HRT to try to tackle the hormonal storm I’m trying to cope with - too early to say whether it’s working!

You sound like a lovely, lovely mum so don’t try to change how you feel - accept it but don’t let it swallow you up. 🥰

Mumtothreeandadog · 02/02/2023 18:28

Aww thanks Alsoplayspiccolo

DH doesn't want to go out anywhere, just works or sleeps. Makes everything worse as feel very alone

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shadypines · 02/02/2023 22:42

I could have described it as a hole in my heart/ heart broken when DD left for uni, never felt pain like it so I totally get you. I think you may have found it easier by now if you had a little understanding from your DH and not so many other worries. It's hard. Try your best to focus on something you enjoy, I do some craft to keep my mind occupied. It will get easier but allow yourself to feel what you feel and try not to compare yourself to sil, that's a road to nowhere.

Mumtothreeandadog · 03/02/2023 13:54

Thanks shadypines funny you should say that, just started learning to crochet !

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DaphneduM · 03/02/2023 14:10

It's incredibly hard, particularly so when they leave suddenly. In my case it was unexpected and sudden as my daughter was offered a training job opportunity. I remember wandering round our local town feeling totally bereft.

It's a totally normal reaction after all the years that they've been the centre of our world. But eventually you do adapt to a different routine, and maybe take up different hobbies - in my case I'd always loved gardening, but added zumba and pilates classes too. Also saw friends regularly for shopping, lunch, etc. I used to visit my daughter monthly, so that was something to hang onto as well.

We're at the next stage now - we actually moved near our daughter at her request and see them regularly as we do childcare for our gorgeous toddler grandson.

Sympathies, OP - it will take time to adjust - just been there at the end of the phone for them, try and keep yourself busy and all will be well.

shadypines · 03/02/2023 18:31

That's great @Mumtothreeandadog I really wish I could crochet! I'm sure you'll soon be making some lovely things and calming your mind at same time. I am reading Michelle Obama's latest book ATM and she is saying how she took up knitting to get through the pandemic. Things like this really do help, if I didn't do cross stitch/ knitting and other stuff I would be a heap. Fact is you never stop being a mum no matter what stage of life you/they are at you still have that most important role, allow your feelings ( sad and happy) and give yourself credit.

Mumtothreeandadog · 04/02/2023 11:53

I've added some hobbies DaphneduM art, exercise classes plus I have the garden now the weather is getting warmer, but I still feel like bursting into tears at the drop of a hat. Wish DH would understand a bit and not look at me like I've got two heads!

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Belfastmum23 · 18/02/2023 10:48

When I read this, it was like reading about me. I am going through exactly the same things. How are you coping now? Hoping there’s light at the end of the tunnel.
tgere should be physical groups where you could attend in person and chat