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I hate it when small children are called "manipulative"

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emkana · 12/06/2005 10:47

Was talking to a group of mums about an 18-month-old toddler who cries at night because he wants to get into his parents' bed. When they let him into their bed he's content and smiles and goes to sleep. All the mums were saying how "manipulative" this little one was and how he knew exactly how to get his own way and how you had to stamp down on this kind of behaviour etc.
Now I'm not saying everybody has to co-sleep - if you don't want to do it, fine. But it really gets to me when "evil" intentions are ascribed to a small child. This little boy loves his parents and wants to be close to them at night. Of course a child has to learn that they can't get their own way all the time, and every parent has their own feelings what is acceptable and what isn't.
I'm not making myself very clear here, does anybody understand what I'm saying?

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Bugsy2 · 14/06/2005 15:17

HMC - are you having some kind of posting crisis here?!

Twiglett · 14/06/2005 15:18

totally agree with hmc

katierocket · 14/06/2005 15:23

LOL HMC

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handlemecarefully · 14/06/2005 15:42

Bugsy2,

Yes I think I was

Tortington · 14/06/2005 21:33

yes mll i agree with you in that we are arguing over the meaning of a term- have said throughout i dont think babies sit and plan misery whilst wearing and eye patch and stroking a cat!!!

unicorn · 14/06/2005 21:53

can I throw a grenade in here...

what about 4/5/6 yr olds? can they be manipulative?
(anyone see Little Angels tonight?)

I think I understand where custy is coming from re interpretation of the word.

...Manipulation doesn't always need to be a bad thing... eg osteopathathy, is a physical manipulation isn't it?

Tortington · 16/06/2005 02:09

i think from the age of 4 they can be deliberatley manipulative - like screaming in the baked beans aisle becuase they want the teletubbies magazine ..thanks for that grenade there uni!

Tortington · 16/06/2005 02:10

thinking about it i think the cause and effect rational behind a toddler doing that isn't that far off a baby crying becuase it likes to be picked up

Lookslikesnow · 13/06/2018 11:59

It is manipulation what children do do. Sorry but it is. Manipulation is simply doing x knowing it will achieve Y. We have put our own stint on the meaning of the word because we associate it with dishonest and unfair acts with negative outcomes. But in truth manipulation can also achieve positive outcomes too.

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