Nursey (at primary school) wont change my soiled child

[MikeDadof3]

Hi all, just to vent spleen and put some feelers out. My Son (3y,5m) has just started Nursery school, attending half day sessions at a primary school. He has coped really well and loves attending, however our only area for concern being his toilet accidents.

1 - At home, we take him to the loo every 45 minutes or so - and he keeps dry. Despite telling the school staff this he mostly comes home in spare clothes having had a wee accident. (we send our own spare clothes but they keep using their own school clothes)

2 - Today I received a phone call at work informing my Son has had a toilet accident - a number and could I come and collect him!
He had to wait 30 mins for me to collect him and clean/dress him.
Later I spoke to the headmistress, who was unsure of the protocol of cleaning and helping soiling accidents and stated it was not in a teachers job description.
I am sure they must have dealt with this before.
My colleagues were staggered, as was I!
Any thoughts or experiences.
Thanks.

Ok so as an Early Years Teacher in F2 I am not expected to change a child who is 4/5 years of age unless they have special needs or if it is an accident (tummy bug etc). Even then I am not 'expected' to do it but do it because it is uncomfortable for the child! If a child is frequently having accidents due to parents not toilet training them properly then parents are called to deal with their child which I think it perfectly acceptable! Parents are quick to teach their child their numbers and alphabet but not so much to use the toilet properly! I do not agree with leaving chn for 30 mins while their parents come and wherever possible I do change them but my union states that I do not have a duty to do this and it isn't int job description! The reason it isn't in my job description is because I am not a nursery nurse and I have trained to be a teacher! Teachers teach and yes the EYFS states that 'care' should be provided but that does not extend to cleaning chn up who are not properly toilet trained through lazy parents! Chn with SEN are covered under the DDA! Surestart centers, day nurseries etc are different because they have early years professionals working within them who take care of the cleaning up process but in school it is different as there simply isn't the time or the man power to abandon the whole class to change chn on a regular basis!!
How on earth teachers are expected to teach chn is beyond me when apparently all these bums need changing! The parents would be quick to moan if their chn weren't making progress and I would have to say oh sorry we didn't have time to teach that cos so and so needed their bum changing!
I became an early years teacher because I wanted to support the whe child and help them to build the foundations of their learning lives and if 'bum wiping' was in my job description I would have opted for an office job instead!

This is a very old thread. The kid is probably at Uni by now.

At a school where I was a Nursery Assistant, we weren't supposed to clean the child, just pop them on the loo and phone the parents. We had one child who did it a lot.

To be honest though, I would change them. I don't care if they shit their pants, in fact I always thought that making them wait until the parents came just made them more nervous about future accidents. Whereas when I started to treat it like no big deal, and just got on with changing the child in question, their accidents soon stopped!