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regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 12:45

I am a regular poster, who has namechanged because essentially, I am ashamed of how I feel

My DD is 20 months old and basically, I have deep feelings of regret for maybe 6 out of 7 days in the week. Regret, that is, that I had her.
Parenthood is much less pleasureable than I had imagined it could be. Granted, there are contributory factors which make me feel like this- namely that I seperated from her father soon after she was born. We were together 3 years, and although we didn't plan her, we were happy enough to proceed with the pregnancy. It was a rocky relationship anyway, so I always feel guilty and downright stupid for getting pregnant in the first place. Really- that feeling will never leave me. It fell apart very rapidly after she was born, but My dd does, however,have an excellent relationship with her father

Mostly though, I feel horrid about how I am with my DD. I work full time and have a boyfriend, but he is not my 'partner' ifyswim. . I find that I can never wait for the time when my dd will go to her fathers so that I can get away from the slog, and be with BF ( how awful does that sound?).If there is an oppportnity for her to go to her dads, I'll often, but not always take it. I find that when bf is around, I'll try to ensure she is with her dad, but when he is working away for example, I miss DD, so arrange for her to be with me during those times. I know this is dreadful and dd will pick up on it eventually.

I find that I have such a negative attitude towards my child, constantly moaning about how much hard work she is. She is, btw, quite demanding, but I imagine in my logical and more lucid moments- no more so than other children of her age. I find sitting down and playing with her insufferably boring and so mostly try to avoid it. Inevitably, my dd vies for my attention even more, then I lose my temper and shout at her. Yes, I shout, sometimes saying dreadful things like 'you've wrecked my life, I hate you'. She doesn't understand the meaning of the words yet, but she will, and she can of course, pick up the horrible negative voice I say them in.
She is a very cautious little child, wont try to climb up/go down stairs on her own, is very tentative and hardly ever tries new things. She isn't a trypical toddler in that sense, that you have to watch her like a hawk. I find this irritating, because it means she wont even walk up a step on her her own, but instead stands at the bottom of it whining, and clutching her doll for dear life, like the step is an abyss to be feared. I hope she'll be feisty, but find myself calling her 'wet', when she does these things.
Some days I find it so hard to be around her, because she whinges alot- truly an awful lot- and I feel so angry, like I might hurt her, so I have to out her upstairs out of my way to calm down.
I took her on holiday a while ago- because I try, really I do try to change how I feel and I want to be better, but she she has a habit of following me around whining this kind of 'heh heh' noise, for no apparant reason, and some days during the holiday I sat and cried, because she literally wouldn't stop. Even when we were doing fun things that she should have enjoyed, like painting, she was still doing the 'heh, heh' noise and I wanted desperately to come home.

This is going to sound crazy- but being around my DD makes me feel incredibly anxious. I'm always waiting for her to 'start', in the whining sense, and because I have such an aversion to the high-pitched noises that my dd ( and of course, most other children make) I am on tenterhooks that she will kick it off at any given moment. I'm always wishing her life away 'I cant wait til she's five', seems to be my favourite. I always convince myself that It'll be better when she's able to communicate with me, as she wont need to screech so much.

My family, who don't live close by, make remarks that I'm not a 'natural' mother - they're not trying to be hurtful, its just banter- but I find that I 'play' up to that label now, and am constantly moaning how how it all is. I tell all and sundry that I would never have another child- and I scare myself with how much conviction I mean this. I dislike being a mother so much that i would never put myself (or a poor child, more to the point) through it again. I'm always, always harking back in my mind to the times when I didn't have her, the freedom i had.

FWIW, I dont think I am depressed. If any of my friends knew how I felt they would be appalled. I have a good job, social life and on most days, feel happy. Its when I come home and my DD is narky, its when I think of the next 16 years of this, or even when my friends are planning a trip away that I cant go on, that my feelings engulf me.

I have made life choices that I wish I hadnt, and nothing is going to change that. But please tell me how I can change how I feel about my little daughter before I ruin everything. I know that I love her- and I do show her a lot of physical affection, but then I ruin it all by regretting her very existence, when she is having anything less than a perfect day.

I await the flaming, and I deserve it, but really, I feel crap enough.

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DadOnAHotTinRoof · 02/03/2009 12:49

You need to get this sorted. It's not her fault. She's going to bear the brunt of your behaviour in smashed self confidence, and it will last her the rest of her life.

Relate? Social services? You need to get this sorted.

PerArduaAdNauseum · 02/03/2009 12:52

Parentline - 0808 800 2222
and here

Please sort this out. It's not her fault.

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 12:54

thankyou, I feel tons better for the reminder of how I'm damaging my child.

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onlinemummy · 02/03/2009 13:00

I am so sorry you feel this way. Dad.. above is right that you do need to get help. You may not be depressed but in some way you may have associated the split from your partner with your daughter and place all these negative feelings on to her.
Toddlers can be really difficult to handle, without feeling this way already. Things will get easier but i would say in your case it sound as though the difficulties are coming from internal sources rather than from your daughter iyswim.
Try speaking to your health visitor it's what they are there for and try and get some access to a counsellor to work through these feelings. Don't wait until she is older as she will already be picking up on your feelings towards her and I don't think waiting for some magical age in the future will either of you any good. It's good that you are aware of these feelings and want to change but you can't continue like this.

tiggerlovestobounce · 02/03/2009 13:05

I agree with the others, this situation needs to be improved ASAP.

Your DD sounds like she is really lacking in confidence, and can probably already pick up on the tone of what you shout at her, and like you say, it wont be long before she understands the words too.

It sounds like you could use some professional help, but in the meantime I would try to stop the negativity.
If you seem to be more engaged when you are with her then she might become more confident, and so more fun for you to be around.

Try to 'act' as if you relly enjoy being with your daughter and stop talking negatively to others about her. Try to stop expecting her to "start" and try to convince yourself that things will be OK.

Also acting in that way might help you feel it too, IYSWIM

Try to take things one day at a time. Dont think about when she is 5, or 18 or whatever, just think about the day that you are in, and try and enjoy it.

It must have been really hard for you to type what you did, but now you need to focus on putting it right, for both your sakes.

FlorenceofArabia · 02/03/2009 13:17

Could she live with her dad and you have some access?

PerArduaAdNauseum · 02/03/2009 13:19

Regrets - after your post, was anyone going to tell you it's OK?

But I know how hard it can be. One thing that can help, is planning the day out a bit more. Making specific times for doing different things, and keeping a time every day for play that she leads in. If you even just give her 30 or 45 minutes for what she wants to do (and yes, it is dull, that's why we don't do it ourselves) then you'll feel better when you explain to her 'not now darling, mummy has to do this, but we'll have our special playtime later'.

Another tactic to try, is to take a mental step back. Instead of reacting and saying to yourself 'oh god she's using that voice again', try pretending you're an anthropologist, or a zoologist or something, and saying 'oh how interesting, she's favouring her left hand at the moment'. Sounds daft, but can help get you through.

But you do need to sort this out, you know you do or you wouldn't be here.

I hope it works out for you xx

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 13:20

I dont feel I could let her live with her dad. It may seem to you like our house is a living hell-hole, but really, most of what i feel is INTERNALISED and not projected onto my DD, so on that basis, I do not want to lose her to her father. No.

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PerArduaAdNauseum · 02/03/2009 13:22

And I don't suppose that her living with her father would help your relationship anyway. Have you called Parentline yet? They've heard it all before, and might be a bit more useful than random strangers on an anonymous website...

hercules1 · 02/03/2009 13:23

You see, you must love her to say that

Personally I find the younger years especially hard and yes, icnredibly boring. Ds is now 13 and has been great for the last few years. It can and does get better.

But I do think you need to get help and follow what teh others posters have suggested for it. Keep posting on mumsnet, you'll get loads of support although some may be painful to hear.

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 13:30

perArdua- Did I expect anyone to tell me its ok? No, I know it is not, hence my post.

That said, thank you for yours.

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FlorenceofArabia · 02/03/2009 13:33

Oh it is difficult. I find babies boring and didn't really start to enjoy DD until she was about 2 and a half. I'm a SAHM, have no family nearby and DH works long hours. Some mornings his alarm would go off and I would burst into tears at the thought of a full day having to occupy a whinging child .

If you work full-time does this mean that during the week you pick her up at about 6pm? Do you find the evenings with her a problem or is it mainly weekends?

One thing I did was to do things with her that I enjoyed. So we'd take some books, crayons, portable toys and take up residence in Starbucks - that way I got a nice cup of coffee, she could play and hopefully other people would distract her . Then we'd go to somewhere like Waterstones where she could toddle about amongst the kids' books.

I would also carry her a lot as we both benefitted from that close physical contact.

What about swimming together and soft play areas where you can join in with her, helping her to gain some confidence.

Put her on a chair and stand at the sink and let her do pouring and water play, encouraging her and praising her. Put on your favourite film to occupy you whilst you play plasticine with her.

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 14:41

Florence, your post is helpful, thank you.

Yes, I work full time, so I collect her at 5.30pm. I also split weekends with her dad, so you would be forgiven for assuming I'd want to be with her every spare moment I have, but I don't because I find it so hard.

I rarely have full weekend with her as it happens, because of the time she spends with her dad (usually sat-mon morn).

The waterstons suggestion is good. I've been to soft play a couple of times, but I can barely tolerate the noise. I should try again though, I know that. I tend to spend saturdays in town with her, so I know I should do something more to stimulate her.

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FlorenceofArabia · 02/03/2009 16:15

Have just re-read my post and it was a bit rambling (I'm studying for a maths test so my brain is very ) - sorry!

Do you think you might find time spent with dd more enjoyable if your boyfriend was involved?

Siriusmew · 02/03/2009 16:21

Have you been to you're DR? It could be PND. You casort of be depressed and not feel it. Iyswim. I was diagnosed when DS1 was 2.5 and I felt very similar to you. Remember window watching for my mum to come and pick him up.

Siriusmew · 02/03/2009 16:21

Sorry should read "can sort of".

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 16:29

Thanks sirisusmew.

If it was PND, how would they treat it? Don't fancy drugs tbh.

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regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 16:36

Florence

I've often thought about this and I think that maybe, yes, I would probably enjoy the time with DD if boyf was involved, because on the whole, I feel isolated when its just the two of us. Despite her father being very involved, we're not raising her together, ifyswim. Not saying I want boyf to 'raise her', but maybe sharing some experiences would be nice.
I ahve several ishoos with this though.

  1. I'm not sure he's the one for me, so I'm reluctant to immerse him in DD's life.
  2. He has a very different lifestyle from me, runs own business, older than me, childless, has a bit of 'fast' lifestyle. Adores me, very respectful of the lilitations on my time because of DD, but kind of sees my time with dd as just that- mine, and so rarely offers to do anything with us. Not too sure how much I mind at the moment though. Sorry if that sounds a bit confusing
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rookiemater · 02/03/2009 16:57

Regrets, you have been incredibly honest in your OP.

I'm not a single parent so I can only imagine how hard it must be to be the sole carer with no respite for most of the time. I have to admit I get frustrated sometimes with DS aged 2.11 particularly if Dh is away for the weekend or not around for a few evenings and I too absolutely love it on the rare occasions that Dh and I get away together.

Try to find some activities that your DD enjoys and you can tolerate. There is nothing worse than schlepping the darling child to some expensive thing where they moan and cling to your legs for dear life.
Soft play is hideous but if you find the right one you can sip on your coffee whilst DD skips off and enjoys herself.

Also your DD is at quite a hard age. Not quite old enough to throw herself into activities on her own, but old enough to have a definite personality.

From your most recent post it doesn't sound as if your DP is ever going to be that interested in spending time with you as a family and perhaps that is where some of the disconnect is coming from. Will this guy ever be able to provide hte support and stability that you need ?

Must go as selfishly have let DS snooze past his allotted time as couldn't be bothered playing with him ( see we are not all perfect)

Siriusmew · 02/03/2009 17:03

I don't think you'd have to have drugs. There are many counselling services availible. I don't know much about them but I'm sure some other mumsnetters will. I really think you should try your GP and not be so hard on yourself. x

regretsdontwork · 02/03/2009 19:14

rookie, you're right that DD isn't old enough to throw herself into activities alone- the thing is though, my DD will simply not pick up a toy alone. If I dont play, she ignores her toys and simply clings to me. Thats why I think a soft play wouldnt work for us as I just know she wouldnt play by herself. Last time i took she stood there simpering.

Who knows how it will work out with boyf ( I've been seeing him a year but have yet to promote him to 'DP'. We have a relationship that is very lovely, but not too dissimilar from one that resembles two single people without ties.
This has suited me for most of the time. Not sure it still does, or that its all that relevant to how I feel about my relationship with DD

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papoose · 02/03/2009 20:24

RDW I do feel for you and am impressed by your honesty. But if you work full time and your ex partner has her every other weekend, that is not a lot of time that you have to spend with your daughter! Surely it can't be that hard to put up with her for a couple of hours each night and every other weekend?

I think your best bet is to see your GP with a view to getting counselling - I don't mean to make you feel worse but I think you know that the feelings you describe are not normal maternal feelings.

Good luck, I hope you work it out.

rookiemater · 02/03/2009 21:19

Ok the reason I mention your boyfriend is because you seem to have two completely separate lives, one where you are working f/t and looking after your DD and the other where you are a single person with no ties every other weekend with your boyfriend.

Thing is you aren't two people and I do wonder if you are making things harder for yourself by trying to maintain these two separate identities.

Anyway enough of me and my soap box philosophising.

Parenting is tough. It doesn't come with many breaks and you don't get much thanks. You have recognised that you need to do something. I think Parentline as others have recommended would be a great step forward for you.

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