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Do you think my reaction was right? Incident in the snow today....

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lisalisa · 02/02/2009 19:42

WE live in a street of about 20 houses of which 5 are occupied by friends of ours all with children. Consequently the children all play together ( and squabble together !) quite a lot. In one of the houses is another family who are related to our friends ( their brother and his wife and family) but with whom we are not particularly friendly, just polite and neighbourly.

today all the children from the street were playing in the snow.

My ds aged 9 and my friend's ds aged 6 ( I'll call him A) offended this other family's children ( the family we are not so friendly with). Let's call the children ( they are 4 of them X).

They offended them because X apparantly spent a long time building a snowman and then went inside. Ds and A , looking for more snow apparantly decided to use the snow from the snowman and proceeded to demolish it. the mother of X waved from her window with a disapproving shout and according to her shouted to stop it. Ds said she didn't actually say anything . Unsurprisingly her children were devastated when teh snowman was destryoed and she told Ds and A off and telephoned me ( I was inside at the time - this house is two doors from my house and the snowman was on the street outside it). She was very irate and I said I would speka to ds and of course understood and expressed my apologies.

When i spoke to ds I first asked him why he had demolished teh snowman and spoke to him about hurting chidlren's feelings and destruction for no reason as well as disrespecting an adult who ahd asked ( or gestured for him ) to stop.

Ds said that many snowman had been built that morning ( which was true) and he didn't realise this one was so cherished and was sorry. I told him to go and apologise to X which he did.

The mother of A then walked up teh street and announced that A, for his part in it had been not only to apologise but also had to rebuild teh snowman and then spend teh rest of the day in his room ( this was 10.00am). I told ds a good thing to do would be to help rebuild the snowman outside X front door whihc he did with relish. Afterwarsdd I told him he was free to play but to take care not to hurt anyone's feelings etc./

the motehr of A launched into a literal attack saying that this was poor parenting and that I shodl take this more serioulsy and punish ds more. She said I should follow her esxample and send ds to his room for the day. We debated this for half an hour with her insinuating that my parenting was lax and me tryign to be tactful telling her that the most important thing in my eyes was my son's education. He had learned a lesson , he had repented ( and he had genuinely realised what he'd done wrong and why) and he'd put it to rights by apologinsing and helping to rebuild the snowman . I felt that was more than sufficeint.

A's mother was not satisfied and said teh boys' actions ( A's as well as ds' ) were "cruel", "heartless" and " disgraceful " and akin to bullying.

I feel this is a total overaction to a small incident which had been put to rights. it has left a sour taste in my mouth and no doubt A's mothers ( not least as A had to watch ds playing for the rest of the day and apparatnly became hysterical eventually caged in his room) and has caused friction between A's mother, myself and X's mother ( who also wanted ds " off the streets" . In fact this mother came out later to "suggest" that my ds plays elesewhere and not otuside her front garden.

Please let me know what you all think of this?

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southeastastra · 02/02/2009 19:44

mother A should get a grip. really over the top reaction

DungareesAndOranges · 02/02/2009 19:45

Bonkers. You had the right approach. It wasn't done in malice, just maybe abit silly. Total overreaction on her part IMO.

Desiderata · 02/02/2009 19:45

I think your reaction was perfectly correct. I agree with everything you've said, point by point.

If you're a bad parent, I'll come join you!

I don't know what the answer is with regard to A's mother. Maybe she'll chill out when the snowmen thaw?

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ladycornyofsilke · 02/02/2009 19:45

Wow. Glad they aren't my neighbours.

memoo · 02/02/2009 19:46

I think mother of A definately over reacted.

I think you handled it all perfectly

scrooged · 02/02/2009 19:47

I agree to help rebuild. A harsher punishment if they knew it was a loved and cherished snowman but as they didn't then a rebuild is enough.

A agree that she was OTT.

Lemontart · 02/02/2009 19:48

Have a glass of wine and hope she is chilling out too. I understand she was upset for her children and would have been very annoyed too. BUT her reaction was way out of order and, from what you have said, I think you handled it brilliantly.

ChasingSquirrels · 02/02/2009 19:49

over-reaction.
I wouldn't have debated it for 1/2 hour with her, I would have walked away after 5.
Wonder if she will do a post on here slagging you off.

eNABlemetobebetter · 02/02/2009 19:50

You are right,

She feels she was right too but imho she wasn't.

LuLuMacGloo · 02/02/2009 19:51

I don't understand why child A was kept in his room all day or have I missed something?

quint · 02/02/2009 19:53

Definite over reaction. Its, stupid bloody woman. What on earth is she teaching her children by acting like that. I think you did exactly the right thing as did your son by apologising and helping to re build.

Again - silly tart!

Booboobedoo · 02/02/2009 19:53

I'm with everyone so far, and you.

You taught your DS his lesson,and he helped to repair the damage.

A's mother sound slightly loony, and I feel very sorry for her DS shut in his room all day. He's only 6, fgs.

I understand why X's mother was upset, but it was very ungracious of her not to relent once your DS helped with the rebuild and apologised. Not setting a great example to her own children, I think.

BitOfFun · 02/02/2009 19:54

You didn't do anything wrong IMO - I think playing with the children whose feelings he had hurt was far more constructive and teaching him to be cooperative and make amends. I hope things "thaw" out with the adults though!

smartiejake · 02/02/2009 19:55

Oh FGS. Yes the boys were wrong to destroy the snowman but the other mums really should get a grip especially as the apology was made and the snowman rebuilt.

The boys were rather thoughtless but not bullying and cruel. No point in harping on about it.

I agree with memoo- sounds like you handled it perfectly.

pooka · 02/02/2009 19:55

Blimey - all this about a snowman?

Mother A completely overreacted and the punishment was way disproportionate to the "crime". Feel very sorry for her son having to stay in (he's six and it's snowing and he rebuilt the snowman FGS).

follderol · 02/02/2009 19:55

I think "bloody hell" that's what I think. I think I'd have done what you did LisaLisa but in the face of other adults I may have either buckled or become more offended. You now have a difficult path to tread, you have to find a way to not hold a grudge and to ensure that they don't either, that will be tricky. But if you don't find a way to get them to feel appeased your neighbourly friendships may be in doubt, particularly with the friend and her relatives. Relatives will stick together

fishie · 02/02/2009 19:57

you seem to be the only rational person there. is something else going on with your ds and the other parents or their children?

i cannot imagine a situation where i would debate someone else's parenting skills with them for half an hour, what was she thinking? it is outside normal behaviour.

x will have to side with a if they are family i suppose but you all have to live together.

EllieG · 02/02/2009 19:59

You are right - can't imagine shutting a 6 year old in their room all day for something like this! A telling-off, a genuine apology and a re-build is perfectly sufficiant. Don't they say time-outs should last no longer than a minute per year of life for little ones anyway? What you do with your child is up to you (though to be honest, she sounds a bit mad, shutting a 6 year old up all day. And I say this as a fairly strict parent). I tend to rely on a telling off, make amends, and then it's all over with. Especially for stuff like this.

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LuLuMacGloo · 02/02/2009 20:03

Sorry, I mean't child X.

Okay, playing devil's advocate is it possible that this woman feels that her children are being ignored/sidelined by the rest of the kids in the street (ie the five families which you are pals with). Maybe she's posting on here saying things like 'we live on a street where all the folk with families are dead chummy and the kids all play together but don't play with my dc's. Dc's spent ages today building a lovely snowman but then some of the other kids came and destroyed it because they wanted snowballs - even though I asked them (through the window) to leave it alone. My DC's were devestated.' The point I'm trying to make is that it all sounds like a very cosy set up from which she (and her DC's) seem to be excluded. Obviously if she is mad as a brush I can see how this happened but it might not do any harm to encourage your DC's to befriend hers - I feel quite sorry for them playing on their own when the rest of the kids of the street are in a gang.

nb - I agree that she over reacted but it might have been the straw that broke the camel's back!

Still don't understand why HER kids were made to stay in - unless they were in fear of the snowman demolishing gang rampaging on the street. Could that be a possibility?

unfitmother · 02/02/2009 20:03

Sounds nuts in your street!
Poor you and poor A

LuLuMacGloo · 02/02/2009 20:07

Oh bugger - just realised that it was your ds's friend (A) who was in his room all day. Ignore previous post.

PlumBumMum · 02/02/2009 20:09

Kids do that I had to knock the window at kids once as they were wrecking our snowman, but it didn't enter my head that I should even say anything to their parents and I didn't expect an apology OFGS

You were good enough to get your ds to apologise
motherA might find her son rebel on her strictness

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 02/02/2009 20:11

A and X mothers are nutters.

You are sane.

Next.

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 02/02/2009 20:13

Honestly yes, a snowman in a public place like a street is not necessarily something which I would automatically assume should be kept there. If my DC's built one and another kid came and knocked it down, I wouldn't even expect an apology tbh. Abandoned snowmen are like abandoned sandcastles - you don't expect to find them there when you come back after leavng them, surely?