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Do you think my reaction was right? Incident in the snow today....

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lisalisa · 02/02/2009 19:42

WE live in a street of about 20 houses of which 5 are occupied by friends of ours all with children. Consequently the children all play together ( and squabble together !) quite a lot. In one of the houses is another family who are related to our friends ( their brother and his wife and family) but with whom we are not particularly friendly, just polite and neighbourly.

today all the children from the street were playing in the snow.

My ds aged 9 and my friend's ds aged 6 ( I'll call him A) offended this other family's children ( the family we are not so friendly with). Let's call the children ( they are 4 of them X).

They offended them because X apparantly spent a long time building a snowman and then went inside. Ds and A , looking for more snow apparantly decided to use the snow from the snowman and proceeded to demolish it. the mother of X waved from her window with a disapproving shout and according to her shouted to stop it. Ds said she didn't actually say anything . Unsurprisingly her children were devastated when teh snowman was destryoed and she told Ds and A off and telephoned me ( I was inside at the time - this house is two doors from my house and the snowman was on the street outside it). She was very irate and I said I would speka to ds and of course understood and expressed my apologies.

When i spoke to ds I first asked him why he had demolished teh snowman and spoke to him about hurting chidlren's feelings and destruction for no reason as well as disrespecting an adult who ahd asked ( or gestured for him ) to stop.

Ds said that many snowman had been built that morning ( which was true) and he didn't realise this one was so cherished and was sorry. I told him to go and apologise to X which he did.

The mother of A then walked up teh street and announced that A, for his part in it had been not only to apologise but also had to rebuild teh snowman and then spend teh rest of the day in his room ( this was 10.00am). I told ds a good thing to do would be to help rebuild the snowman outside X front door whihc he did with relish. Afterwarsdd I told him he was free to play but to take care not to hurt anyone's feelings etc./

the motehr of A launched into a literal attack saying that this was poor parenting and that I shodl take this more serioulsy and punish ds more. She said I should follow her esxample and send ds to his room for the day. We debated this for half an hour with her insinuating that my parenting was lax and me tryign to be tactful telling her that the most important thing in my eyes was my son's education. He had learned a lesson , he had repented ( and he had genuinely realised what he'd done wrong and why) and he'd put it to rights by apologinsing and helping to rebuild the snowman . I felt that was more than sufficeint.

A's mother was not satisfied and said teh boys' actions ( A's as well as ds' ) were "cruel", "heartless" and " disgraceful " and akin to bullying.

I feel this is a total overaction to a small incident which had been put to rights. it has left a sour taste in my mouth and no doubt A's mothers ( not least as A had to watch ds playing for the rest of the day and apparatnly became hysterical eventually caged in his room) and has caused friction between A's mother, myself and X's mother ( who also wanted ds " off the streets" . In fact this mother came out later to "suggest" that my ds plays elesewhere and not otuside her front garden.

Please let me know what you all think of this?

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/02/2009 20:14

completley nutty

your son said sorry and helped make a new one

end of

Hulababy · 02/02/2009 20:17

I think your reaction was spot on TBH.

I think both Mother of A and Mother of X overreacted.

oranges · 02/02/2009 20:21

erk - my toddler went round happily demolishing snowmen today. i had no idea that was an offence!

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rolereversal · 02/02/2009 20:21

read your post, not read everyone elses, but they are barking and need to lighten up and you are right. ok

follderol · 02/02/2009 20:27

By oranges on Mon 02-Feb-09 20:21:04
erk - my toddler went round happily demolishing snowmen today. i had no idea that was an offence!

I think allowing your child, however young, to happily wander around destroying snowmen when they are created by other people's children is rather unthinkingly cruel actually. I'm slightly shocked that you allowed your toddler to do that happily, imagine the level of upset.

oranges · 02/02/2009 20:45

I honestly didn't think anything of it. They were tiny - about knee high and there were no children about. but point taken, snowmen will remain till the sun melts them away.
what's mumsnet policy on sandcastles?

follderol · 02/02/2009 21:05
  • I don't think you can take anything I say as policy, only been here a month and people seem to keep insinuating that I should fuck off because I question stuff anyway

I think sandcastles are fair game unless you see a child nearby by the way

lisalisa · 02/02/2009 21:08

thank you all very much.

to those who questioned whether there is something else going on - perhaps, yes. A's mother is quite meddling and my children ( not just ds) often seem to get in trouble when she is about. A bit difficult to explain succinctly but she tends to exaggerate what other chldren do to offend her child ( even though her chld was not the offended party here) and consequently her children are not very popular and tend to be "hangers on " rather than the centre of the crowd. She is fairly in awe of X's mother and anxious not to fall foul of her ( she doesn't get on so well with the other 2 families in teh street who are both her sisters' families - there are 3sisters and one brother in same road!) in case she is isolated further.

I also felt A's punishment to be wholly disproportionate to his "crime" and my initial reaction ( and I do say initial as I realised after a few mins that X's mother did have a valid point) was "So what - these are only snowmen of which they are about 20 in the road this morning"!! I did relent and realise that she had a point and that ds should not have destoryed the snowman and much more importantly hurt her children's feelings but the whole thing struck me as totally barking in the "severity " with which it was viewed.

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 02/02/2009 21:10

You are right. They are mad. It would have been ridiculous and cruel to have grounded your son all day for this.
You should have posted this on AIBU - it would have been amusing to see such a unanimous vote of YANBU.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 02/02/2009 21:11

As mum really over reacted. dd would be upset if her snowman were demolished but I wouldnt expect a child to be punished all day for it. Particularly not when snow opportunities are so rare. Once the snowman had been rebuilt and sorries said that should be the end of it.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 02/02/2009 21:12

Having read your latest post - next time I move house remind me to make sure that I don't move to a street where everyone is related to everyone else. It sounds a bit claustrophobic.

lisalisa · 02/02/2009 21:21

LadyGlencoraPalliser - it is claustrophobic believe me! And very political too.

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wheresthehamster · 02/02/2009 21:23

I hope during that half hour you told her that her actions were the cruel, heartless and disgraceful ones. Silly cow. Her poor son - the best day of the year. And then the other silly cow - any chance you can move?

HerbWoman · 02/02/2009 21:32

Don't you mean almost the best day of the past 2 decades - kids might never have this much snow again in their childhood. It's the first opportunity DD (9) has had for building a proper snowman. Apparently they even built an igloo at school today (yes, their school was open). Am feeling very sorry for A.

MadamDeathstare · 02/02/2009 21:56

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