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Out n about Nipper v Phil n Ted

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jenster1976 · 28/01/2009 12:02

Hi I was wondering if anyone had any experience of both or strong feelings either way. Tbh I hate the idea of a Phil an Ted and hormones are making me a bit OTT emotional on the subject! But DH and other interested parties are convinced its the only sensible option and I'll regret it if I don't. They think I'll struggle with the side by side - don't want to stick my heels in and then be proved wrong but equally don't want to spend money on something i fundamentally dislike!! I know its probably irrational, but feel like I made a bit of a mistake with the Loola first time round and want to make right decision this time - any opinions??

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nicewarmslippers · 28/01/2009 12:07

i have NO idea what you are talking about! Really, not meaning to be harsh but what is this about?

EldonAve · 28/01/2009 12:09

what is the problem with the side by side? narrow hallway in your house?

smugmumofboys · 28/01/2009 12:11

I had (in fact still have in the garage ) the Out and About. I loved it. It's very light which more than makes up for the occasions when it was a bit of a tight squeeze through doorways etc. I used it in London for the best part of two years with no problems and also used it in the countryside on yomps. Again, no problems. It was so light that I could push it with fingertips with a newborn and two year old in whch was a real plus after having a cs.

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Bumbleybee · 28/01/2009 12:13

I had an out n about nipper and loved it, it fitted in most places, I used it with ds1 and ds 2 and then again with ds2 and dd, it has the handy bit on the front where ds1 could also sit. It is lightweight and easy to push, even with 3 on there. Hope this helps.

Mimsy2000 · 28/01/2009 12:17

i have a phil and teds and it's very flexible. (i have 3month old and 2 1/2 year old. ) it basically does anything you want it to do. i only have two minor issues with it - i am quite tall and would like to be able to make the handles reach a bit higher. my dh, who is taller than, doesn't see this as a problem. also, when you are carting 2 kids around, there isn't as much storage space as you are used to with just one.

re: the side by side one, fitting in hallways and any public transportation would be a huge issue for me. to me, they have always seemed better for two children of similar age; or twins. infant and toddler have such different needs that it's nice to have the phil and teds which suit each.

imo phil and teds is the best option for an otherwise difficult issue.

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jenster1976 · 28/01/2009 13:06

Sorry for not being more lucid - just investigating double buggy options. Thanks for the feedback on both. It's ntot my house which is the problem but envisaging problems with pavements - shop doors etc - I know they say the nipper fits in most conventional doors but just wanted to know if that was really people's experienceds..I am rubbish steering my current wide single buggy always banging into things (reflection on my driving still need L plates after 18 months

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EldonAve · 28/01/2009 13:09

I don't think you would have any issues with pavements or doorways in the nipper

dottoressa · 28/01/2009 13:09

P&Ts was the best thing I ever bought for the DCs - goes through pretty much any space, down any pavement, pushes one-handedly, and turns like a dream (it needed to when I had DS on reins in my left hand, and the P&Ts in my right!) What's more, we sold it for £180 on eBay four years later, in v scruffy but perfectly functional condition.

camgirl · 28/01/2009 21:42

What is it you don't like about the Phil & Teds? I am having some qualms too - particularly about the newborn bit. It seems like the baby can't really see anything, not you or the outside world and I can't see how to get around this.

But I also have the same worry about a double not fitting on the bus/shop doors etc.

StreetcarNamedDesire · 28/01/2009 22:19

I have a P&T Sport and hate it. Great for 1st few weeks but now DD2 is too close to the floor, it's difficult to manoevre DD2 into the rear seat, 3 wheels get stuck constantly, and finally (the biggest issue for me) is balance - heaviest child has to be in front and in first before you put in 2nd child, and if the one infront then wants to walk for a bit (DD1 is 2.5, so she's in and out alot) it makes the buggy unstable so I can't let go for fear it'll tip up.

Wish I'd never bought it!

StreetcarNamedDesire · 28/01/2009 22:25

DD2 is now 7 months btw. I fell out of love with it once she'd moved to the proper seat at the back.

camgirl the baby can't see much but does look straight up at you (albeit upside down for her) which is v cute.

The other issue I had with it is it was quite tricky to slot the cocoon in once DD1 was in situ - not much space and difficult angle.

I'd definitely try to borrow one and see if u get on with it!

PadDad · 29/01/2009 06:36

Haven't yet tried the P&T with two kids in it, but its dimensions mean it's a dream going through doorways, which I can't imagine any side-by-side buggy would be.

I asked lots of people to describe the worst thing about it before I got ours. Women tended to come up with "it is very heavy", but still seemed to be v pleased with it.

bestfriendswithbenefits · 29/01/2009 06:53

I've owned both. I didn't like the P&T, it was heavy, difficult to manouvre, especially as the children got bigger. The Out n About is the best pushchair I've ever owned ( and I've owned quite a few ). Basically, what it comes down to - it's just so light and easy to push. Even with my five yr old and nearly three yr old. It fits through my standard front door too, although couldn't fit through my friends Victorian terraced. I liked the double so much, I bought the single version afterwards.

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jenster1976 · 29/01/2009 10:29

Thanks everyone, I think i'm going to go with the nipper - i figure there is no "perfect" pushchair out there and I'd rather have my dc side by side where they can see each other and the world rather than one tucked away in a coffin or craning to see the world. I might just have to revise some of the cafes we go to!!

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kayzr · 29/01/2009 10:32

I love my P&T, I wouldn't be without it. We looked at the nipper and hated it.

flippineck · 29/01/2009 11:00

I haven't actually bought and lived with either of these yet, but tested both recently - DC2 due in a couple of months. The Out and About is currently top of our list, and the Phil and Ted's hasn't even made the shortlist. The OnA is very light, easy to push, and didn't feel unbalanced with uneven weights, but it is slightly too wide for our Victorian doorways (think I can live with it; maybe). P&T heavy, but easy to push but (and a huge but) when I pushed it with two seats on it (rather than the cocoon and a seat, iyswim) my knees hit the back of the lower seat and it drove me mad. Not a problem for DH though.

Sidge · 29/01/2009 11:03

I have the Nipper Double and love it. Have never not been able to get through a doorway (well except my local corner shop which you can't even get a single through!) and it's SO easy to push.

I still use it for days out with DD2 (nearly 5, she has SN) and DD3 - 2.5. Still very easy to push and steer.

I borrowed a friend's P&T and hated it.

Mummyfor3 · 29/01/2009 11:05

I loved my Out'n'About Double Nipper: light, easy to manouver, can be opened and closed with one baby on hip (ok, with some difficulty but can be done), fits through standard doorways AND (this was important to me) both DSs could look in the same direction and "chat" to each other when they were a bit older (12 month age difference) - mind you they could also hit each other quite well .

I never owned a Phil and Teds, but have eyed them up enviously, so interesting to read the comments about them here...

Sybella · 29/01/2009 11:45

I wouldn't be without my P&T sport. It has been fantastic. DS1 and DS2 are 19 months apart and even when DS1 decides he wants to walk and leaves DS2 in the lower seat I haven't had any stability issues. As to the lower child not seeing anything DS2 (20 mths) doesn't miss a thing and they have even started argueing about who is going underneath.

I have never banged my knees even with the lower seat reclined and don't find it any heavier than my single three wheeler.

PadDad · 29/01/2009 12:18

This thread!

"I hate the idea of a Phil an Ted
"the Out and About. I loved it.
"an out n about nipper and loved it,
"P&Ts was the best thing I ever bought
"I have a P&T Sport and hate it.
"I fell out of love with it
"The Out n About is the best pushchair I've ever owned
"I love my P&T, I wouldn't be without it. We looked at the nipper and hated it.
"I have the Nipper Double and love it.
"I borrowed a friend's P&T and hated it.
"I loved my Out'n'About Double Nipper:
"I wouldn't be without my P&T sport. "

Well, it's been emotional, hasn't it?

flippineck · 29/01/2009 12:25

lol PadDad, that's parenting for you!

mumof2andabit · 29/01/2009 13:09

I'm in a similar situation but need the double for dd and ds2 so a side by side, which I had for the first 2 is out of the question for me as you cannot push them with one hand. Other hand holding ds1 hand.

I am not keen on p&t yes I know it is practical and reasonably cheap but not for me. And dh hates it. We are looking at the bebecar vector duo (can't do links off my phone sorry!) as we had a single vector for ds and loved it.

Sidge · 29/01/2009 13:42

Mumof2andabit - you can push and steer the Nipper Double with one hand.

MinkyBorage · 29/01/2009 14:22

I don't have experience of a side by side, but do have the p & t. I put off buying it because I had the same reservations you have (I assume so anyway, I just didn't like the idea of one being underneath, didn't seem fair etc etc) I have a 14 month age gap between my two, and there have been precious few issues about where they sit, and in the early baby days it really was fantastic. In the end for me, it has been a sanity saver from the point of view that you can take it anywhere without too much of a problem, so there's no excuse not to ttry to get out of the house with two children. I have freinds who tried a couple of different sorts but ended up with a p&t. it is good on rougher terrain, and fantastic from the point of view of shop doors, busses etc

misscackle · 29/01/2009 14:34

I am a childminder and I have both, although looking to sell my Nipper which has hardly been used. The Nipper is fab and the only reason i don't use it is because for 2 toddlers I found they would slap, poke and pull each other's hair. Also the nipper seats are slightly reclined. Phil and teds is not perfect but i prefer it. I did feel like I was pushing a tank with the big side by side.

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