LOOK, you have four kids, get over it.

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At playgroup I was chatting to this(ostensibly)really nice mum.

BUT god she droned on about her kids as if they had been thrust upon her.

" Oh god its BATH time" she whinged. And her H had had the temerity to "skive off" at work.

Everything was negative and her older kids are at primary school so hardly babes in arms.

Girls it's a real turn off.

Hey, don't have a go at me. This isn't my thread. I was merely making suggestions as to how to deal with the problem. However....

So are you suggesting that, as people with depression give no "inkling" that they're feeling that way, we should just assume that everyone who moans about their life is depressed in case we say something inappropriate? Some people are depressed, some people just love to moan. How are we supposed to tell the difference if no "inkling" signs are given?

I quite like negative people, actually brings out my latent positive side as I think great, someone who's more of a bitter old bag than me. Nothing worse than in-your-face jollity.

at Lockets.

We should start a thread to abuse the foul mouthed. To put down the negative types. To be bored with the unenthusiatic. To talk across the overly chatty. To ignorethe protests of the bossy.....

I too get irritated by people who moan constantly about their children.

OK, so kids are hard work, and we all moan from time to time. Most people will sometimes moan about their kids, and sometimes be proud of them and visibly happy with them. People who only ever moan annoy me.

Contraception is free and reliable these days, so if you really can't stand kids, then don't have them in the first place. Ultimately, having children is a lifestyle choice. It's not like a job, or an illness that can't be avoided.

And if the real underlying problem is money worries, or some other issue, then why not moan about the actual issue, rather than putting it on the kids all the time?

I had to have IVF to have my son, and all my friends know that. But they still come out with things like "oh it's easy for you, you've only got one to think about", knowing full well that I would have had more if I could have.

It's the constant moaners that bug me, the ones who seem permanently fed up with their kids.

well, I admit freely my 3 were not quite like what I had expected and if anyone wants them they are for free.
Sorry, just think this is one of these ridiculous threads.

Would you really give them away? was the first one not a warning?

I think moaning can become a defensive habit - as though you are warding off the eveil eye (i.e. bad things will happen if you say good things about your life). At least that's how I think I got into the habit - not one I'm proud of

"Contraception is free and reliable these days"

Not 100% reliable though is it? You only need to read the MN boards to see how many people have fallen pg while using one form of contraception or another, plus those that used the MAP and that also failed to work.

Yes but to fail four times and not presume that life might be slightly hectic....
twit

hope the children don't overhear her talking about them like that

Ok Lockets, martyr's the wrong word! What I mean is that some people seem to enjoy telling you how their children are such a burden. I do think that it's insecurity though. If you say something like 'oh what a lovely chatty little thing your kid is' they'll say 'it's non-stop, 24/7. It's wear you out' etc. I think it stems from not being able to accept compliments themselves.

I feel quite paranoid now. I think I might be a moaner - but it is hectic and it is hard and yes I did expect that it would be and still did it anyway but surely I'm allowed to whinge sometimes? I don't think I moan ALL the time but now I'm not sure...

I only have 3 though so does that mean I am disproportionately whingy even for a natural moaner?

the people who do the most moaning never really seem to have anything to moan about tho do they? they seem oblivious to all the lovely, lucky things about their lives - like healthy children for a start

and there is a difference between moaning and getting valid stuff off your chest obviously

Lol at Seuss, stop moaning about moaning fgs

But I was enjoying myself!

See - us moaner like to moan. You wouldn't understand that's the trouble with you perky optimist types..grumble grumble

I suppose I could try moaning about being an incurable optimist - for example, am constantly at risk of developing some sort of severe gambling addiction as I always feel lucky!

That's more like it! Be moany and proud! I am the opposite - I always expect the worse and have a 'worse case scenario' planned. On the up-side - if you must have one - I am always prepared!

think pessimism is not quite the same as people being ungrateful about all the nice things in their lives tho

So I can't lump my pessimism in with my moanyness? Wow no wonder no-one talks to me at toddler group...

I moan about the tantrum in a small body that is DD2 all the time, love her to pieces but OMG she is hard work she would start an argument in an empty room.

I think people love the idea of a cute baby or a nice little mini-me and don't realise how hard raising DC actually is

know what you mean - ds2 and dd had an argument today about whether or not they were fighting! I had a good moan about that one!