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Do you let your kids hit you?

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purpleduck · 02/11/2008 14:52

OK, I am just genuinely curious...
I see lots of kids hitting their parents, and the parents just either take it, or move out of the way, but very often say nothing.

So, if your kids hit, do you just figure they have to let out their frustration, or they are too small to hurt so its ok, or just a phase...?

Just wondering

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theSuburbanDryad · 02/11/2008 17:24

If ds starts to hit/kick as part of a tantrum then i will move him away from me and other people so he won't hurt them and let him get on with it - or wait until he's calm enough to be cuddled.

If it's part of a game then he'll get his hands/feet held and told NO.

So yes, to an outside observer it might appear that I'm not doing anything - but trying to restrain him or or tell him off will make the tantrum 10x worse!

theSuburbanDryad · 02/11/2008 17:25

If ds starts to hit/kick as part of a tantrum then i will move him away from me and other people so he won't hurt them and let him get on with it - or wait until he's calm enough to be cuddled.

If it's part of a game then he'll get his hands/feet held and told NO.

So yes, to an outside observer it might appear that I'm not doing anything - but trying to restrain him or or tell him off will make the tantrum 10x worse!

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hecate · 02/11/2008 17:28

Well, my two both have autism and I have been hit, nutted, kicked, punched and bitten many, many times! I've had my nose busted and I have had glass shied at me!

I am sitting here sniggering at "let them hit you" sorry, but it's funny to me given my personal experience.

I must say that they are not violent any more (often ) but ds1 used to be REALLY physical. Was never a question of 'letting' him, there was no way to get through to him. All you could do was physically restrain him. Grab his arms and say "no hitting" ?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that may work on nt kids, and good luck to you! but a child with autism? Ha. Pah. Meh. Different species!!!!

That said, it is in no way an excuse to fail to correct unacceptable behaviour - ds1 is no longer a violent person, we helped him to change that, but you have to understand that parents of children with sn have to do things somewhat differently. You can't assume that all children can be effectively dealt with in the same way.

purpleduck · 02/11/2008 17:49

WHOA!!
Of course I don't mean children with sn!!!

Not babies either!

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AbbeyA · 02/11/2008 17:52

Even if they haven't got SN you can't deal with all DCs the same way-what works with one won't work with another. I am always a bit surprised by a blanket size that is supposed to suit all. The important thing is not to just accept it as something that happens and can't be changed.

cornsilkpyrotechnicqueen · 02/11/2008 17:52

hecate - that's exactly like my ds this time last year. He's supposedly at 'high risk' of AS. How did you help your ds to change his behaviour?

hecate · 02/11/2008 18:12

I almost daren't tell you, you'll report me to ss.

Well, the problem I have always found is that children actually punish themselves. They do this by being bothered by whatever punishment you dole out. It upsets them. It is this upset feeling and not the punishment itself that modifies the behaviour, if that makes sense.

So how do you discipline a child who doesn't care if you are cross, or upset, or disappopinted? Who doesn't care if they get their toys confiscated, or have to sit in their room? Who doesn't give a crap if you are really proud of them and praise them and give them a round of applause?

It's hard and you have to get creative. So we took what we knew he hated and used that. For example, ds1 hated the hoover. So when in the house, we put it on the instant he did something unacceptable. He came to associate doing certain things with the sound that he hated. Over time (a LOT of time!) he learned to avoid doing certain things in order to avoid the sound.

We also restrained him. My legs round his legs, my arms round his body, trapping his arms at his sides, my head tucked into his back so he couldn't headbutt me!

We used and continue to use social stories. They have become more effective as his understanding of language has developed.

We do lots of floor work, we get into his world and copy him when he's flapping for example, scream when he screamed it makes a connection with him. (breaking into "The Sun Has Got His Hat On" in the middle of his meltdown in tesco certainly got his attention! )

God, there is loads, I would break MN if I carried on! And that's just ds1! ds2 is totally different and needs different handling - like ANY child, nt or sn, you have to look at them as individuals, understand them and use that to your advantage.

Psycho and flame met my boys last week, and I think they will tell you what great lads they are! [proud] but if you only knew how far they'd come! ds1 has gone from a headbutting-glassthrowing-biting-kicking-screamer into a gentle lad who played so nicely with their kids, I nearly exploded with pride! ds2 has gone from not giving a crap about anything ever to a lively, stubborn little thing

It's always difficult to 'train' a child - any child. Parenting is hard. It's just that with sn kids you have to think 'outside the box' as it were.

Pinkchampagne · 02/11/2008 18:13

No way!

Earthymama · 02/11/2008 18:28

Hecate, you made me cry! With empathy for your pride in your children, which is so well deserved.

I thought that OP was thinking more of parents who just can't be bothered to challenge their children's behaviour in case they get upset. I think that socializing children to co-operate and live with others is one of the main tasks of parenting.

I'm going to set myself up as a guru and patentthe following techniques:-

A) the 'look', that glare that says, if you don't stop now you won't like the consequences! this can be refined by the addition of

B)the hiss, 'come into the other room for a moment'!!

Or is that too nasty for MN!!

Bear in mind I did my parenting in thje 80's.

ALMummy · 02/11/2008 18:33

I say "Don't hit Mummy (or whoever), we don't hit ANYONE do we?", then remove to time out if they continue. My dc don't hit to be honest apart from when really small, which makes me wonder if hitting and aggression are just part of our make up.

hecate · 02/11/2008 18:36

Oh I do The Look as well You wouldn't think it would work, would you? But I have one with bite !!

I know that PD was meaning nt kids, but I don't have any of those and I like to join in threads with my 2pworth! I wasn't being funny, it's just that all my parenting knowledge and experience is from the sn perspective, so I can only put my parenting posts in that way. I don't intend to slap anyone down, or play the sn card I'm just joining in with my pov. And certain things make me laugh, (but not in a nasty way!) because it is so different from my life and the thought of how it would play out if I did it the other way, what would happen, it makes me giggle!

Tortington · 02/11/2008 18:40

i was at the house of a woman who has a 7 yar old daughter. whilst we were in conversation this girl then kicked her mum repeatedly and verbally abused her in the most disgusting manner i have EVER encountered personally by someone so young.

and the mum kept saying " not right now darling....i will get it for you in a minute darling" etc.

that child would have got smacked legs and send to bed in my house.

yeah go on mumsnet call social services boo fecking hoo

Ripeberry · 02/11/2008 18:48

I've always come down like a ton of bricks if any of my DDs have hit me. Don't ever let them do it even ONCE.

southeastalien · 02/11/2008 20:05

my son went through a couple of years of being agressive, i was really at my wits end with it. and i tried everything to stop it.

Hulababy · 02/11/2008 20:07

Of course no. Never. DD has tried to do it just once or twice when very small. She was stopped and told firmly no, not nice and we don't hit anyone. Fortunately she has never been one to hit out at other children. DD is 6 now and she would be on serious trouble if she tried to hit me.

Hulababy · 02/11/2008 20:09

Obviously for children with SN things may be very different and need to be hadled very dfferently.

KanyedFrot · 02/11/2008 20:22

DS is going through a stage of hitting atm, he's 4.5.

Am trying to find strategies to deal with it, in fact I posted about it a few days ago.

Last week he hit me twice in a cafe while we were out.

The result was he had his snack taken away and then our promised trip to buy some coloured card from the craft shop was cancelled.

He has just started school and there seems to eba lot of quite aggressive behaviour going on. He was bitten by one child and says he has been punched and pushed over on several occasions.

I am trying to find my way through it .

I think it's a bit unfair to say parents "let it happen". They may be like me...trying to deal with an unpleasant phase of behaviour it as best they can without complete meltdown in public - on both parts.

southeastalien · 02/11/2008 20:22

but even some children who haven't been diagnosed can be aggressive and hard to handle.

it's too black and white to say 'well i deal with it straight away' and luckily that does end the behaviour. i have really struggled to cope with my son's behaviour. it just isn't that easily sorted.

Pitchounette · 02/11/2008 20:33

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Pawslikepaddington · 02/11/2008 20:37

No, I pick her up by her wrists and shove her in her bedroom/someone elses kitchen and shut the door very firmly (and then go into the toilet and cry ).

Pawslikepaddington · 02/11/2008 20:41

And did once smack her for it-in an airport boots and airport security got called-I was having a meltdown due to too much baggage, an uncontrollable dd and a delayed flight. Have never smacked her since

Cheesesarnie · 02/11/2008 20:55

hecate i love your posts.

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southeastalien · 02/11/2008 20:59

i did find after a year or so of it, shutting yourself away does make them think

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