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Got friends 7 year old DS staying - he's still in night nappies

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dilemma456 · 08/07/2008 21:29

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bumpybecky · 10/07/2008 11:16

crocky said...

'My ds will be 8 in Sept and never has. He has started on the tablets but they have made absolutely no difference '

are the tablets you're talking about the desmomelt ones? odd looking things that you let dissolve under the tongue?

if so, they come in two strengths. The starting point is 120 (not sure if it's micrograms or miligrams, but 120!). If this doesn't work you can go up to a 240 dose (either as two 120 tablets or a single 240 tablet).

My dd1 has been on the 120 dose for 15 months and it's recently become less effective. Saw the GP on Monday and he's prescrbed the 240 ones (doubling up with the 120s until we get to the end of the packet first). When it works, the medication has stopped her wetting at night. Without it she's wet at least 5 nights out of 7, some nights more than once per night. Recentky though she started having accidents even after taking it. I think maybe she's just got bigger nad needs a stronger dose. She's 10 but skinny and doens't weigh much!

I do feel very for her that she's still got this problem at 10. We started at the enuresis clinic 3 years ago now and despite solving the problem for a while, it's back and we now have to medicate (she refuses to wear the 'nappies'). dd2 (7) has been dry for years and now dd3 (3) is dry at night too (well mostly anyway). Poor dd1 still can't quite manage it

Sorry - went off on one then!

MrsBoo · 10/07/2008 11:23

My DS (8) finally got an appointment at the Eneuris Clinic earlier this year - they kind of did an assesmement and then decided to give him the alarm. It was a tiny little sensor worn inside 2 pairs of pants - and attached to a vibrating alarm clipped onto PJ top.
We had huge success with it - and the doctors at the clinic were fantastic - compared to my GP who was crap and wouldn't even give us a referral.

dilemma456 · 10/07/2008 12:19

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xserialshopper · 10/07/2008 12:52

And thanks dilemma for starting this thread. I thought my ds was 1 in 1000 with his problems, but, oviously not. I wouldn't have known how 'common' it was if you hadn't asked your question.

LittleMoosh · 10/07/2008 13:09

My 6 year old does not wear nappies in bed, but he has in the past wet the bed (quite often). My hubby has to take him for a wee every night before he comes to bed otherwise DS will wet the bed (DS never wakes up though so we cannot train him to wake up and go for a wee). He goes into such a deep sleep that nothing wakes him up. I tried one of those alarms where if you start to wee an alarm goes off and wakes you up. Unfortunately, once DS is asleep nothing can wake him up. I hope he grows out of it soon as he can't do sleepovers for fear of bedwetting.

bumpybecky · 10/07/2008 14:38

Litle Moosh my DD1 started taking the medication specifically because she wanted to go to a sleepover and was very reluctant to use the pyjama pants (she called them nappies, which is what they are really, despite the marketing). She was 8y 9 months old when she started on it. It doensn't work for everyone, but has been very sucessful for her.

We were reluctant to medicate at first. We've had the alarm from the enuresis clinic and followed all of their suggestions. Although the alarm was sucessful at first, after over 6 months of being dry, the problem returned Medication seems to be the answer for now

candyfluff · 10/07/2008 15:09

my little sister kept on wetting the bed until she was 13 but never wore any kind of nappies.

Crocky · 11/07/2008 16:56

bumpybecky, yep those are the ones. He has been taking two of the 120 ones per night and it really has made no difference.

jamescagney · 11/07/2008 17:13

dilemma 456 thanks for posting. Like you, I had no clue until recently (despite 8 siblings, 4 younger) that some school going children wore nappies at night.
My dh tole me that he bedwet at night until about 14 and how awful it was..
I would pray that my lo would be dry as the majority of older school kiddies would seem to be. Is that wrong of me ? No.
Was I surprised at age of children in night time nappies ? Yes.
Would I be sad if lo was in night time nappies at 8 with the difficulties re sleepovers etc? Yes.
so leave op alone oh judgey ones!

BoysAreLikeDogs · 11/07/2008 17:30

Desmomelts did the thing for DS1, Continence Nurse (horrid title, bless her) did warn us that they do not suit everyone. So success for us, but we didn't go down the bell/mat/alarm road. SO dry by age 8

Trying to think what other things we were told -

Drink loads to stretch the bladder

Avoid orange/blackcurrant/cola-type drinks, milk or water preferable

Don't lift at night, you think the child is awake to pee but they are really half asleep so peeing in their sleep still

Shower in the morning for social reasons - we can all remember going to school ith the smelly child

Make up the bed like this in layers- waterproof, bottom sheet/waterproof, bottom sheet/waterproof, bottom sheet, for whipping off easily in the wee small hours

The eric site is fantastic

Alishanty · 11/07/2008 21:56

I remember that sd was still wetting the bed regularly at 6. She stopped wearing nighttime nappies at about 3 though, we just used to use a protective cover on th mattress and change the sheets if she wet.

K8tiewith1 · 22/02/2012 13:42

I just came across this post and I just now realized how old it is. I hope everyone doesnt mind me updating it with a question. My daughter is 7 and still wets the bed and my question to al of you is, do you use nappies or pull ups on your older one at night. Reason I ask is that pull ups/drynites just dont work and they would leak just about every night. I have considered many times going back to nappies at night but due to her age, I wasnt sure if that was something other moms have done when running out of all other options. Its stressful as it is having to wash first thing in the morning and neither of us are morning people as it is so you can imagine what mornings are like here now without her wearing anything to bed. Has anyone here resorted to nappies on a child my daughters age or is that something I shouldnt even consider. I have tried ALL the tricks (limiting drinks, waking her, dr visits etc) and nothing has helped. I was told to just to let her outgrow it. Thank you

Katherine

Seona1973 · 22/02/2012 13:46

have you been referred to an enuresis clinic? the ERIC website may help too

K8tiewith1 · 22/02/2012 13:57

I have not no. First, I need to get my daughter motivated to even want to try to stop. She has fought me every step of the way and will fight me when I tell her to go before bed and will kick and scream when I try to get her out of bed at night to go. She will demand that she have a drink when its close to bedtime and when I tell her no, she tells me that she is thirsty and WILL get a drink. She isnt embarrassed when she wakes up in the morning in soaking wet sheets and as I have stated before, mornings are hectic here as it is. We are always running late because she takes her own sweet time in the morning getting changed, in the shower, getting dressed etc. Getting her to help me with the sheets and bedding is like pulling teeth and its just not worth the fight, especially first thing in the morning.

Katherine

piratecat · 22/02/2012 14:06

i'm having fun. dd is 9 and ten months, and started her period yesterday.

how to cope with a drynite and a sanitary towel.

CakeMixture · 22/02/2012 14:12

Hi k8tie - you will get a much better response if you start your own thread.

Piratecat - that sounds very tricky - poor dd!

K8tiewith1 · 22/02/2012 14:16

Pirate, I am praying we dont get to that point here with my daughter but I dont see her stopping anytime soon either. Seeing as yours is slightly older then my daughter, do you have problems with the drynites leaking at all? They leaked just about as much if not more then the reg pull ups did. I stopped wasting time and money on pull ups because they just dont work which is why I was curious to know if others here had to resort to nappies when all other options failed. I feel at this point, its my only option to save on our sanity and laundry in the morning. Can anyone else relate?

Katherine

K8tiewith1 · 22/02/2012 14:29

Thanks Cake, I went ahead and started my own thread. Please feel free to post.

Katherine

outofbodyexperience · 22/02/2012 14:46

Desmo works if it is a hormonal issue. Alarms work f the problem is deep sleeping (but the parent wakes with the alarm and rouses the child). Both are needed where it is deep sleep and hormone non production.

Dd1 was dry at 8 because we used an enuresis alarm (desmo had no effect at any dose, she was just too deep a sleeper). Ds1 is still drenched every night at 10 through pull-ups. Dd2 was dry day and night at 2 before either of her siblings. Grin oh, and she cerebral palsy. Grin all kids are different, and will be dry at different times. I have no idea what the op said as it's already been deleted, but there are plenty of kids in pull-ups way past 7. As a cub and brownie leader (organsiations that don't even start until this age) I have to negotiate the discussions with parents before overnight camps, so that I know how many spare sleeping bags I need to take with me, and can make sure that a timely and sensitive routine is in place in the evening and morning for those who need it. (and there are always some - that 2% figure is ridiculously low. Grin

I find it amazing that mners are surprised by this tbh.

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