Right, dd1 just refused to put night-nappy on...

[notnowbernard]

... having previously been positively proud to wear a night-nappy (she's 4.6) tonight for the first time she said she didn't want one "I'm a lady now, Mummy"

Have gone with her decision, even though her nappy is SODDEN every morning (though I do suspect she is a lazy wee-er )

What would you have done?

same as you, as long as there is a protective sheet on the bed, and a spare sheet in the cupboard.

Give it a go (with a Pampers bed mat or similar underneath) and be prepared to be woken during the night!

If she manages without wetting it will be a bonus!

If she is wet for several nights and you suspect she is not ready, you could always sneak a pullup on her after she's gone to sleep....

Someone gave me some of those Pampers bed sheets ages ago, so I put one of those down with a towel underneath. Will check her before I go to bed, if she's wet I'll obviously change her and slip a pull-up on, I think

I explained to her that if she does wake up it's important to go to the toilet, and that if she does wee in her sleep that might mean her body isn't ready yet to not have a nappy

Sometimes they do have to have a few wet nights to get the hang of it though - or for their body to realise the consequences of weeing when they are asleep iyswim...

It's probably a good time of year to give it a try - easy to wash and dry the bedclothes. If it's warm enough you could also take off her duvet (if she has one) and just use a top sheet or empty duvet cover with a fleecey blanket - will save the duvet from getting wet.

Good idea, thankyou

At 4.6 I'd be THRILLED! Just make sure you have a mattress protector on and a clean sheet to hand. I bet she surprises you!

Thrilled?

I've not had that emotional reaction to it, no

Right

She's been in bed ONE HOUR and is sopping wet (dd2 just woke up so I checked dd1)

This despite having a wee before bed

Put a pull-up on or try again?

She's been in bed for an hour??? What time zone are you in?

Both dds go to bed between 6.30-7pm!

Is she awake, if so what does she want to do? I would follow her lead, ds has been dry at night for a year but once or twice a month he wets the bed, I just bung it all inthe wash and dont get stressed about it, did used to bother me more with the girls. Sounds like you want us to tell you to just bung a pull up on, if you cant face doing it right now that is ok too.

Lucky you! Or do they then wake up really early?

Maybe going to bed so early isn't helping her be dry at night though.... I normally don't let ds1 have a drink after 6pm and he is rarely asleep before 8.30 (age 7, wet at night until recently and still has the odd accident). I would have to make his last drink even earlier if he was going to bed as early as your dd...

The more I think about it, the more I think that physically she isn't ready

She was fast asleep when I checked her, wasn't woken by dd2 crying or her wet pjs. Was difficult to rouse to change her too.

Bugger it, I'm going for a pull-up. Thanks for your input everyone

Grapefruit, they sleep through to between 6.30 and 7am. So I do think they need it. DD1 can go later at night if needed but it ain't pretty

She generally has her last drink with dinner, at about 5pm. I do offer her a drink before bed, but mostly she refuses

Ah if she wants to do it at over four years just go with it, be positive and don't slip a pull up on, that shows you have no confidence in her....
Get her up at 10ish for a wee, she doesn't have to wake but must be on the toilet and again at 6 in the morning if she hasn't woken.

Yes, sounds like she is a very heavy sleeper so not surprising she is not dry yet. When ds1 has accidents it's generally when he is extra tired...

Or wake her every hour if she wees a lot, could you try a big drink at 5 and make sure she has a big wee before bed???

DD1 (3.11) did this yesterday, and again today.

Usually pull-ups are dry fro 4/7 mornings. Dry all night last night, and refused pull-up again tonight.

Fingers crossed.

Play it by ear and see how she goes.

Twelvelegs - I'm not sure I have the motivation for that regime

Perhaps every hour before you go to bed, I think it's important for her self esteem? I'm only saying that as a parent of dry nights by 3, never my lead but theirs and they're boys. However my ds2 was dry day and night in two days aged 2.5, he asked and did not have wet nappies at night or on long journeys.... they say it's chemical, but I do feel sorry for your dd as she obviously wants to stop wearing nappies for both of you...

Twelvelegs I can assure you I do not feel about this

Why important for her self-esteem? She has no control over what happens to her bladder at night, when she is asleep! What a strange thought

12legs I dont think its the end of the world right now, especially when she is such a heavy sleeper she doesnt sound like she is stressed about it. Notnowbernard, I think you both have to want to do this or else you will feel pissed of stressed and resentful. In your own time.

Because she wants to get rid of the pull ups... I did put a question mark BTW. I would imagine that most children want to be without a nappy as we all like to call pants big girls pants etc. I know my children were really proud of themselves for being without nappies, although that was probably brought about by me saying I was proud. I didn't mean to imply or accuse anything horrid, I just thought maybe as she had asked to go without that it may be importnat to her.

I think for dd the awareness that older children go to bed without a nappy is only just filtering through

She isn't remotely distressed or upset by the thought of wearing one, luckily. In the morning she likes to guage how heavy it is compared to her sister's

Have just popped one on now. She stirred and asked why I was putting one on. I explained and she said "but I didn't even realise, Mummy" (bless!)

If she wants to do it again tomorrow, I will, of course. But I ain't faffing around with hourly wee-trips

MMM, heavy pull up or sodden bed sheets, okay I'm with you .