Is 6.30am too early for young children to play in the garden?

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It is light early in the morning and young children often wake early. The weather is warm at the moment so being outside in the garden in the early morning can be attractive to some people. However, if you had a young child wake early would you have them out in the garen playing at 6.30am, bearing in mind that young children aren’t often able to play quietly and keep their voices down? Also, would you raise your own voice to join in their play and interact with them at that time or do you think it is too early to let them into the garden? If so, what time do you think is acceptable?

My child was in the garden before 6am yesterday. He’s up and wanted outside. He’s just a toddler though so no shouting/screaming but he was scooting around on toys and I used the hose to fill the water tray. Didn’t really occur to me to be honest. We live on a Main Street with a bus stop out front of us/next door and buses start at 6am. They’re far noiser brakes hissing outside our windows.

Is it really too early? Are there actually any working adults or SAHM/D who need to get kids ready for nursery/school, still in bed at 07:00? When my 3 boys were children, the house was a hive of activity from 06:30 onwards, they left for school before 08:00.

I've no kids at home now, and most working adults I know (incl me!) have left the house by 07:00 to get to work.

Is there some parallel universe where adults are laying in bed until 08:30 on a weekday? If so, how do I apply to join this club?

@TheKitchenLady my alarm is set for 6.45. I don't want to be woken or have to listen to kids shrieking or music playing outdoors . It's just rude and inconsiderate. I'm fine with hearing normal waking up noises. I might hear my neighbour open his door and water the plants or a car go down the road...that's not the same thing.

You get a job where you WFH and most of your colleagues are in the US and your kids attend a school nearby.

I don't lay in bed until 8.30am. I get up at 7.45am - make sure DS2 is out of the door (6th form), make a cup of tea and take it back to bed.
I don't think it's that way out there to comprehend!

It depends what kind of noise they are making.
Squeaky trampoline = no
Football on a wall = no
Splashing in a paddling pool = in this weather I can live with it.

Neighbours had builders turn up at 7am this morning. I was not happy about that!

There are plenty of people who work shifts. Or get a day off in the week to make up for working a weekend day.

I agree 6:30 is very early but on the other hand we have neighbours who have a youngish child who is playing football until about half 9/ 10 at night banging the ball against our garden fence when we have a 5yo and 2yo trying to sleep on that side and it's very noisy. It's a fine line and I guess a case of almost read the audience aka your neighbours.

Hot weather or not, 6.30am is massively unreasonable.

Yes there are actually working adults still in bed at 07.00! Plenty, if going by my circle of friends and acquaintances - those that work shifts; those that have the option of flexi-time; those that work from home. I chose to work 10.00 - 19.00 (full-time)....I am not "laying in bed until 08.30 on a weekday", I am simply trying to get my 6/7 hours sleep a night.

I work a .8 contract. On three week days I am up at 6.50 and leave the house at about 8.15. One day I WFH and get up about 8/8.15. The fifth day is my day off and I don’t set an alarm at all, but tend to wake about 8.30/9. (We don’t have school age kids to get up and out.)

I’m a late bedder, rarely in bed before midnight - that’s on me, I know, but 6.30 is too early!

Far too early. A neighbour opposite has recently started doing this - starting around 6.45/7am - the child playing in the back garden at their ‘mud kitchen’, banging a wooden spoon off a pan. No shhh from the parent or direction to play quietly. Sunday mornings too. Banging pots and pans from 9am, fair enough.

Become a shift worker. The only drawback being you might have to work all night.

That’s a very narrow view of working patterns. Not everyone is 9-5.

Also. Plenty of people (eg retired, disabled, or like me SE and decide my own hours) still sleeping at 8am!

Not ALL kids are very early risers either.

Mine wasn’t. Rarely woke before 7.30-8.

Not everyone on MN is in the South of England you know.

It’s currently 11c where I am.

OP isn’t.

Again, read OP posts. She is the one affected by a selfish child letting out neighbour.

this weather is exceptional but usually earlier than 8 is kinda rude

It surely doesn’t matter if it’s the OP or their neighbour - the whole idea of unnecessary noise at 6.30am is, as I said before, ridiculous. Where does it end… bored retirees start lawnmowing at that hour? The enthusiastic DIYer fires up the drill?
If the level of “what’s ok” to do at that early hour starts sinking, where does it end?

We live 15 mins walk from the primary school my DC went to. We would get up at 8, be there easily for 9.

Im SE so would then either walk the dog, go to gym or go back to bed to read and nap! I work better later in the day so that worked for me.

Where I live, the farmer has been starting at 4.30am to get the coolest part of the day and the cockrels start that early too, so it wouldn't worry me. We're all awake anyway so the more the merrier. Let them play in the early morning cool.

Lunchtime is very quiet though. I can see siestas becoming the norm if this weather becomes more common.

6:30 is very early but again depends how close the other property is. I think from 8am is perfectly fine in any garden

It’s a bit too early really. I’d say 7/7.30 is more acceptable. 8am definitely fine but I guess for some then not enough time to get outside before school.

I guess the most extreme times for outside noise are 7am-11pm. My neighbour seems to think it’s ok for her dog to bark outside our bedroom window at night (when it’s been quiet all day). Though broadly, it stops at 11. I guess workmen etc start making noise anytime after 7. So I guess on the odd occasion / heatwave, 7 is ok. But daily that would be a bit insensitive.

Way way way too early. People saying nobody will be sleeping because of the heat - yes, some of us absolutely are.

If my neighbours were disturbing me at 6:30am, I'd be out at 11pm making just as much noise.

8am during the week, 9am on a weekend IMO.