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How to handle aggressive outbursts in a 5yo boy

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Harrjenk · 26/03/2026 19:50

Hi, I would really appreciate some kind advice please. My 5 year old son is generally a complete joy- enthusiastic, fun, doing brilliantly at school, swimming etc, He is loving and tactile and has been a brilliant and caring older brother to his 6 month old sister. But he has always been incredibly defiant, and recently he’s been starting to have these angry outbursts where he turns really violent. He’s strong and he can really hurt me now. I’m talking kicking, punching, grabbing my hair, throwing things at me (shoes, remote control), stabbing at me with a fork or pen. I try desperately to stay calm during these situations but I’m so triggered by being hurt and I’m also always trying to keep his baby sister away from this so she doesn’t become collateral damage (it’s never aimed at her but she is usually on me). It’s very quick to happen. Today I ended up shouting at him when he wouldn’t stop running at me with a cutlery knife. For context, they had the most insane amount of cake and Easter eggs at school today and I’m sure that didn’t help.
The meltdown today started because I said No to having more Easter eggs and he grabbed the bag and started gobbling them and I took them off him. I recognize he was tired and overstimulated.

im just not sure the best way to handle it. I want to be kind and understanding and have him feel he can come to me when he‘s angry. If I try I to talk about it after he just shuts down and changes the subject. I’ve read There’s Still No Such Thing As Naughty but nothing I try from there seems to work. And the Crisis Management part doesn’t work at all in the moment. I’m feeling so tired and beleaguered by it all. I solo parent 90% of the time. For context there is no violence in our home, so it’s not a learned behavior from us.

Do I just wait this phase out? Do I seek help? What does he need from me to support him through this? How do I stay calm in the moment (please don’t say deep breaths and count to ten!). Thanks

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Sunnyduvet · 26/03/2026 20:16

I think 5 is old enough to understand that its not ok to hurt you. I think speak to him about it when he's calm and explain he absolutely must not hurt you or his sister when he's upset or frustrated. I think he is essentially showing distress in those situations so you have to try and see if as him being out of control of his emotions and try and help him to think of ways to calm down. They do quite a few of these at my kids school, e.g. finger breathing. Appreciate he may not feel like doing that in the moment but you can talk about it when calm and make a plan. I would label the behaviours in the monent based onnyour conversations - hey- you're getting angry and upset now, remember mummy said you mustn't hurt her, lets punch a pillow or finger breath or whatever. They also do zones of regulation at school. You could stick them up and show him he's in the red zone and help him recognise it in himself. It will pass im sure! Good luck x

Harrjenk · 26/03/2026 22:11

@Sunnyduvet thanks. we have practiced pillow punching recently and he enjoyed the idea of it and talked about it but then in the moment he just wants to aim it at me. He had a massive meltdown three days ago and didn’t hit out or anything so that was a major win, but since then we’ve had two awful physical meltdowns. I’m not sure he understands the concept of hurting someone? He doesn’t seem to engage with it, and when I use an example such as “when you fell over in the playground and hurt your knee, how did that feel? As that’s what hurt means etc “ but he just glazes over and doesn’t show an understanding. He says silly things about his sister like “she wants to be hurt”. I’m struggling to get to the root cause of the anger. He was never a hitty or bitey toddler and whilst he has had meltdowns before they were never that regular so this recent spate of them especially now he’s quite big and stronghas really taken me by surprise. It could be his sister, starting school etc but he won’t open up. I feel to be honest like I need advice on how I should handle it in the moment so I don’t feel so lost and out of control myself.

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ForRealwhen · 26/03/2026 22:42

Really sympathise ......... and just a tought about "....but he won’t open up." - it's highly unlikely he will have any conscious awareness around what is triggering this - I would have thought that he is way too young for that. However, there might be other ways for you to find out ...

BertieBotts · 26/03/2026 23:06

You have to just be really incredibly boring and not escalate the situation, because when they are acting like that they are looking for a response - I know that is not easy. Put a door between you if necessary until he calms down. Don't engage directly with it. Shouting is understandable in an emergency, but you want to try to avoid it getting to an emergency state in the first place, if at all possible (I have a DS who absolutely goes from 0-60 in one second so I understand it's not always possible). And if there is a situation like that it is better if possible to calmly remove the knife from them rather than saying anything at all. Any time you shout, you are teaching him that shouting is the way to respond when you feel threatened, which means he will do it back to you. Aggression is generally a response to perceived threat.

I have not read the book you mention so I don't know what the crisis management advice in it is (though I have heard good things about it). The best "in the moment" book I've read is Big Baffling Behaviours by Robyn Gobbel.

IME to avoid feeling lost and out of control in the moment, you need something concrete to replace your automatic response. That can either be something de-escalating like the non responding or co-regulation, or it could be something like the Supernanny or 123 Magic approach to time out (I don't like all of it - scrap the shaming parts, but the calm voice, down at their level and one clear warning/explanation then take them without getting into discussion or emotional response is very good advice) or it could be an extremely minor consequence on a set system so that it doesn't "run out".

How are the basics - what's his sleep and eating like? Do you have positive interactions? Do you see any kind of pattern in the difficult behaviour?

It would not hurt to speak to your GP, school SENCo or local family hub and see what they say.

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

Gamahaga · 27/03/2026 06:29

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

I completely agree with this. He needs to learn to respect you. He seems to want to test the boundaries and work out what he’s able to do when angry, how powerful he is, and he will continue to do that if you just react calmly to violence and eg hide in another room with the door shut. He runs at you with a cutlery knife? I can’t believe what I just read. He will only respect you if he fears your reaction once pushed beyond your boundary. Use your voice - lower it slightly and shout at him. Take the knife off him and put him in his bedroom until he apologises. Yes, shame him for hurting you or his sister. For goodness sake, gentle parenting doesn’t work in these instances (and I practice gentle parenting with my 5 and 2 year old). When he’s behaving himself again then you can talk to him but don’t apologise for telling him off.

Tackle this now, while you still have the chance.

Pricelessadvice · 27/03/2026 06:36

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

Exactly this.
This calm nonsense is the reason we have post after post on this forum of aggressive and badly behaved children.
Sometimes you need to make them realise that what they’ve done is wrong and you will not tolerate it. If that means using a scary tone of voice that frightens them, so be it.
He ran at you with a cutlery knife. He’s 5. You need to stop this behaviour now.

JuliettaCaeser · 27/03/2026 06:43

Also Totally agree with lx. It may be controversial but I think children need to be a tiny bit scared of their parents. This gentle parent thing is a recipe for disaster. Your approach is totally not working. He has zero respect for you. Like the poor other
mum with 6 year old twins who run rings around her.

I loved my parents and they were brilliant parents but I did not ever want to piss them off. We have taken the same approach with ours right from when they were sentient. We did not accept bad behaviour / rudeness deal with it firmly there and then from when they were small. Have been told over the years how “lucky” we are that our kids are pleasant to us and we have a lovely relationship.

Maraudingmarauders · 27/03/2026 06:52

Has the behaviour really begun in the last 6 months since his baby sister arrived? Before school did he go to full time nursery, or part time? I’d assume it’s an emotional response to feeling pushed out especially if he was used to spending time at home with you and now is in school all the time. It sounds like dad isn’t around enough to fill any gaps either.

I agree with others that in the moment you need to be big, loud and firm. The behaviour will not be tolerated. Don’t get into a battle, put your daughter somewhere safe and then say “Absolutely not. I will not tolerate this behaviour” in a strong and firm voice. If you need to shut him in a room for 2 minutes to calm down then do it. When he’s calm again you can talk things through, and if spend the rest of the time making sure he has 1 on1 time with you a few times a week and love bomb him.

Happytaytos · 27/03/2026 06:54

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

This. Calm isn't helping.

Newthreadnewme11 · 27/03/2026 07:01

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

I don’t think this is good advice at all. My little boy was like this and I have learned that meeting fire with fire like this just escalates and leaves everyone upset. Yes be firm ‘No! We don’t do that! Don’t hit mummy’. Even in a slightly raised voice. But only very slightly raised and firm/authoritative only, never shouty or angry. Calm and firm, physically removing anything dangerous. And afterwards even if he seems not to be listening, calmly remind him that you love him so much, but he mustn’t hurt mummy. It does go in, I promise. My little boy has got so much better and is now 8.

JuliettaCaeser · 27/03/2026 07:02

When one of ours was 2 they went through a biting stage. Immediate firm “no” and put them in the cold boring porch immediately but for only about 1 minute. Worked well.

You’re seeing the outcome of not teaching him where the boundaries are from the start.

Newthreadnewme11 · 27/03/2026 07:04

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

Sorry lxn889121, ive just re-read your post and I think we’re actually saying something quite similar. I just wanted to emphasise to the OP that being angry or shouty is never going to help

WonderingWanda · 27/03/2026 07:11

One firm loud no rather than lots of shouting then firm decisive actiob. Make your no, louder and much deeper than your normal voice. Take hold of him and if needed physically restrain him or remove the weapon and take him to his room. Say " We do not...insert whatever...stab people" then walk away. When he has calmed down tell him that you didn't like that behaviour and he could have really hurt you, make him say sorry. On repeat. Just like how you would carry an overstimulated screaming toddler outside a hectic party to calm down. Take charge, stop the dangerous action and then leave him to calm down. He won't be able to take in anything you say in that state but the one low loud command (your dissaproval and safety voice) is likely to go in and in future it's likely just that one word in that tone will stop the dangerous behaviour. It works on cats too.

happysinglemama · 27/03/2026 07:12

Completely agree with @lxn889121!! Gentle parenting is for gentle children why torelate this behaviour? I have a 4yr old ds who does this sometimes and he gets stopped not by me not being calm

newornotnew · 27/03/2026 07:16

How calm is life in general, how stressed is he in general? Has this happened only since his sister was born? How is his behaviour at school?

There are different ways to deal with things depending on why he's feeling so overwhelmed, although all of them include a) reducing triggers and b) being firm with consequences.

Solost92 · 27/03/2026 07:17

Yeah I agree. You don't meet aggression with passive affection. Yes it wasn't a sharp knife, but the action is there. I always see DSs interactions as how do I want him to learn about this for when he's a grown man. Do you want him to be a grown man attacking his partner and her trying to calm him down or just going in another room. Is that how you want him to expect people to react.

DS has angry outbursts, he is very emotional and explosive, so was his father. If you're mistreating someone, with your words or your hands then you don't get treated gently. I would take it straight off him. Even if it means grabbing his hand to hold him still to take it. Very firm and strict, we do not hurt people. You can be angry, you do not take that out on other people.

Tantrums, big emotions, screaming, crying, be there for them , talk them thorugh it. Nastiness, aggression, violence, firm, clear, cold boundaries.

I do not beleive in pillow punching. I d9nt allow punching throwing etc in anger. Imagine your husband is angry so he start punching a pillow, or a wall.

If its not acceptable for a full grown adult you don't allow it in a child.

JuliettaCaeser · 27/03/2026 07:35

Agree with everyone else. It’s not meeting it with aggression but you do need to demonstrate a firm hard boundary. He has to be taught where the line is. Should have been done from the start but you have time.

Also agree no pillow punching wtaf teaching him that. That is a known precursor to DV I had an ex who punched inanimate objects it was terrifying. The advice if a man punches something is leave immediately as the message is “you’re next”. I know hes 5 now but he won’t always be.

WhatNoRaisins · 27/03/2026 07:46

I'm also agree that most kids need a clear firm boundary. Without the firm, no, that behaviour is not ok then all the more gentle acknowledging emotions stuff gives them mixed messages.

BertieBotts · 27/03/2026 07:59

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

Because for many children, this kind of response will lead to a coercive cycle.

And many parents will interpret this advice to mean that they should use a shouting, threatening tone themselves and allow emotion and body language which is big and intimidating and threatening, even if they fall short of actual violence, or they will get drawn into "tit for tat" style argument/slanging match and end up in an out of control place themself, which helps nobody.

By responding in a "big and angry" way, the intent is (intentionally or not) to be a bigger threat, to overpower, to show the child that you actually are the bigger threat and they should back down or else. It's similar to the whole alpha/pack hierarchy thing. And it will make some children back down, I'm not denying that. It will genuinely intimidate them into compliance. And perhaps if they were trying it on and they do actually have the skills/ability to control their own behaviour this kind of thing is enough of a deterrent to stop them in their tracks and make them much less likely to try it again (though they may well go on to divert that energy onto younger or smaller targets such as smaller/weaker children, or animals, having seen this modelled). And if this is infrequent, the home environment generally has good structure and role models and there is enough warmth to the relationship generally, it can be repaired and not cause much of a rupture in general to the entire relationship, which is probably why it feels like reasonable advice to give.

But for some children, when the adult escalates the response, the child escalates their response too, the adult then feels forced to escalate theirs higher and the child escalates too and before you know it the adult is at a point where they are using violence or utterly terrorising the child to a point which is not OK. Or they give up and leave before they do something they regret. This is called the coercive cycle and it is highly destructive, leading on both sides to child abuse and to worsening of the child's behaviour (it's considered a major route to ODD) because it is extremely unintentionally rewarding for both parties, based on the slot machine principle of behaviour training (unpredictable rewards are more rewarding than consistent ones). It feels counterintuitive, because nobody classes having a massive violent screaming argument with their child/parent as fun, but in behavioural training, reward does not necessarily = fun - the main reason that both parent and child will continue to repeat this response is that it works sometimes. Sometimes, the parent succeeds in intimidating the child into compliance, sometimes the child succeeds in retaliating until they escape the original demand. And nobody is learning more civilised ways of dealing with disagreement or difficulty/not wanting to do something, meaning the response of escalation is getting more entrenched and automatic. Which is another reason why it tends to repeat, especially if the child has underlying issues such as neurodivergence or trauma meaning that they may encounter difficulty with rules/behaviour expectations more than other children, or especially if the relationship between the parent and child is poor meaning they are more likely to interpret neutral communication negatively than positively.

It also becomes more difficult to physically intimidate a child into compliance as they get older, and particularly for mothers, they may find that their sons overpower them in strength and sometimes height by around 11 years old. So it is not a sustainable strategy if a child has significant problems where violence and aggression are present and likely to continue.

However I feel there is potential for misunderstanding on the opposite side as well, so thank you for highlighting that.

The word calm is about the parent being in control, not about being passive or gentle. Calm refers to the voice tone being steady and unemotional, and the adult's responses being predictable and consistent rather than unpredictable and threatening.

Strong and firm - absolutely yes. But the strong should ideally be more in the direction of "I'm not bothered by this. I don't see you as a threat. You can't hurt me, because I won't let you. This is not the way we deal with big feelings." And also of being in control of yourself and your own emotions/responses, rather than "I am bigger and stronger, so don't you dare, you'll regret it"

Agree that words do not especially help - when a child is in such a riled up state that they are being physically aggressive, they don't have much access to the brain centres which deal with language processing anyway. They need less words, more action. The action should basically be removing any objects of potential harm such as the knife, and if necessary moving the child away from the situation or to a calmer/quieter place, and then removing your own attention unless you can keep yourself very steady and calm, because this provides a co-regulating effect. It's not actually true that being calm only helps compliant children. Children who are compliant probably already have very good self-regulation abilities. (Or sometimes they have gone into shutdown/fawn but that is for another post). Children who are becoming aggressive and violent categorically do not have good self-regulating abilities and co-regulation is a major way that we learn this skill as humans. I know this sounds very fluffy and airy fairy, and the word "co-regulation" is misused all over social media at the moment but there is a good evidence base for the actual researched concept. And no, co-regulation does not mean being a punchbag for a violent child, and it does not mean stuffing your own emotions down and plastering on a fake calm face while your heart is going 180bpm in your chest. If you can't genuinely self-regulate (and it is extremely hard to do when somebody is throwing things at you!) enough to be the co-regulation "model" then it is better to take some space instead. Often someone in a violent state will start to calm down when their audience is removed, and usually this will progress to a point where you can as the parent go in and be a co-regulating influence.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

Completely agree with this. I think you can do this while being calm in the way I have described. Agree that "calm" probably needs more qualifying, though. I'll bear that in mind for the future Smile

BertieBotts · 27/03/2026 08:31

Pillow punching can sometimes be useful if a child is violent/punching anyway and currently does not seem to be in control of this. If they are already punching, redirecting to an inanimate object rather than a person can be a useful interim step as it helps them learn to gain control.

I would not introduce it as a step if they are just struggling with anger but aren't getting physical, or if they are already able to choose when they use this (the key would be that they hit certain people but never others, they always punch the same body part e.g. arm, they throw things but never heavy/breakable things, etc). The old theory that people need to "get their anger out" is no longer thought to be true, and introducing a physically violent "outlet" when physical violence is not currently an issue will only teach them that anger = getting physical, which is a message you want to avoid if at all possible.

Worth noting BTW that physical lashing out is an instinctive response to danger and is not necessarily something a child has learnt from anywhere. Obviously if there are issues like violence in the home or violent media being viewed, then address that as a priority, but some posters jump to assuming that children "must have learnt it from somewhere" and that is not necessarily the case.

Piglet89 · 27/03/2026 08:54

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

A thousand times this.

LemonCurdHotCrossBun · 27/03/2026 09:03

lxn889121 · 27/03/2026 04:56

Why are you staying calm? I know this isn't the "modern" advice.. and disagrees with what some others will say... but in my experience calm parents can't deal with aggressive children. Their calm methods work very well will already compliant children, but are entirely useless on children with a tendency towards violence.

If you are being attacked, then for me, the instant in-the-moment response should be angry and strong. Running with a cutlery to hurt you? Throwing things. Instant big response. Show him in that second that you will never ever tolerate this behavior.

No violence back, but very strong and firm and loud language and emotion.

Then later, when he is calm, it is time for calm words, explanations, questions, understanding etc.

But in that moment, he needs to know who is in charge, and he needs to know that the rule is absolute with no exceptions, and physical violence will not be tolerated.

I agree

JuliettaCaeser · 27/03/2026 09:33

I think we are advocating for the same thing Bertie. Absolutely agree meeting the outburst with more anger and shouting from the adult is bad and counterproductive. That’s the adult losing control too. But calm firm serious authoritative and removing item or child there and then we found worked well.

Piglet89 · 27/03/2026 10:41

Glad to see the tide seems to be turning against the gentle parenting, “I see you’re feeling big emotions” movement.