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Out of night nappies, but wet, wet, wet....

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Smee · 09/06/2008 13:45

As it's summer, we decided to take the plunge with DS (just turned 4) and get rid of the night nappies. He's been in pants since 2 and is totally up for it. Only been going three days, but he's so tired as keeps waking at 5am, forgets and wees himself. Cue us changing his wet clothes and bed clothes. Hugs and cuddles, saying it doesn't matter, etc, back to bed but then he's too awake to get back to sleep. He's not upset by it, just so tired poor thing. Any thoughts anyone...?

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BigBlueHat · 09/06/2008 13:54

have you tried lifting him when you go to bed? That worked for my ds. When he was six we stopped lifting him and he was then able to go through the night until 7 ish with no accidents. However my dd is impossible to lift - gets really upset and just won't wee. So I just kept her in nappies a bit longer until she could go all the way through. They're all different!

Flibbertyjibbet · 09/06/2008 13:57

Stick with it.
If he is used to having a nappy on at night then he is used to being able to wee in his sleep and it may be a hard habit to break.
We put ds1 to bed with no nappies a couple of weeks after he was dry in the day, because he twigged that if he had a nappy on, he could wee.

We do lift him though at 11pm when we go to bed, otherwise he wets the bed quite often. We find it hard to cut down on evening drinks as he is only 3.5 and can't understand why his little brother can still ahve a bottle at night but not him. So even though I'd really rather not, he has a small bottle at night.
If you lift them without putting any lights on etc, after the first few times they don't even wake up. Good luck.

We will be potty training ds2 later this year so I'm just hoping we have the same success as with ds1.

CarGirl · 09/06/2008 13:57

I would put him back in nappies until he is waking up with dry nappies consistently for a few weeks mine have been dry at night at 2.5 years ish apart from one who is still wet at 6 - it's a chemical/hormone thing and they won't do it until their body is ready.

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Smee · 09/06/2008 13:58

Problem is that I have a back problem, so have been told not to lift him if at all avoidable and DH is not always here as he often works away. Ho hum.. Am wondering if we tried it too early. I know they're all different, but is there a norm(ish) time with all this. Am not fussed if he goes back to nappies, but am sure he would be as he's very into not wearing them.

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cece · 09/06/2008 14:01

Ah just seeen this tonight is our first night with DS without nappies. Been out and bought a mattress cover.

This is the first time he has asked not to wear nappies to bed so taking it as a good sign. Although they are usually wet in the morning so we shall see. He is 4.8 yrs but has been out of nappies during the day for a year now.

Waves hello to cargirl!

cece · 09/06/2008 14:02

whoops he has been dry at day for 2 years

Where did that extra year go?!

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Smee · 09/06/2008 14:02

Thanks all. CarGirl - thing is that when in nappies, I know that he used to lie there and wee/ poo so that we'd have to say it was okay to get up - really annoyed me when he worked that one out I've asked him if he did a wee before the morning, but he just shrugged. In other words, it's really hard to know if he's ready or not.
Has anybody used those pyjama pants things, or are they just a rip off?

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CarGirl · 09/06/2008 14:05

Hi Cece - waves back

Smee the pyjama pants are just pull ups - Tesco pull up nappies are just as good and cheaper.

If he is keen to wear pants to bed then you have a great incentive - 7 dry nappies in a row and he can wear pants overnight. He does need to be allowed to get up to use the loo by himself though?

Flibbertyjibbet · 09/06/2008 15:38

I find that two wet beds in a row and we tell ds1 he will have to put nappies on again like his little brother. Usually does the trick.

Personally I think if you put a child in nappies then they will wee. You could wait forever for a child to be dry at night for a few weeks, as keeping them in nappies gives them no incentive to get up and go to the loo.

I don't mean to confuse this with children who have bedwetting probs till very late. But generally getting them out of night nappies, you just have to go for it. They will wet at first then get used to it. Whenthey come out of day nappies you expect accidents, its the same at night.

Ds1 was out of night nappies 2 weeks after he was out of day nappies. We only need to lift him if he has a bottle last thing, so it is def a late night drink issue.

BTW Lidl do pull ups 79p for 6.

CarGirl · 09/06/2008 16:01

I def think there is a window of opportunity within a few weeks of them being properly dry during the day and if you miss that then often they can't be bothered to go to the loo/remember to stay dry IYSWIM.

Again that is a seperate issue to children who just aren't capable of being dry due to the hormone thing or in our case she just sleeps so so so so deeply (always has!)

mumeeee · 09/06/2008 16:08

Put him back into nappies until he has had at least a week of being dry. A lot of children are not dry at night before they are 5 and some are older than that.
Being dry in the day does not have any link with being dry at night.

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Smee · 09/06/2008 17:43

oh my, how confusing. I'll give it one last go tonight, then try the pull up things. He's so into doing it now, that he'll be upset if I just say we're off back to nappy land. At least the weather's on-side in terms of drying washing...

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OneLieIn · 09/06/2008 17:53

I accidentally bought DS fairy pyjama pants - he amazingly was dry for a whole week.

He's back in boys pj pants but has been dry for 3 nights, so tonight we'll give it another go. It's also good weather, so if he wets, at least I can dry it all

We tried pullups, but I think the PJ pants must hold more wee as pullups just left him soaked.

southernbelle77 · 09/06/2008 18:35

My dd is nearly 4 and is still in nappies at night. We have had seperate issues with bowel problems so we are trying to sort those out before trying as it's all too much for her, poor little thing.

But, I thought it was a hormonal thing that they develop some time before they are 6 and when they develop it, they stop wetting in the night - is this not right? I don't want to have left it too long or something and now it will be harder.

cluckyagain · 09/06/2008 18:37

OK - ds was almost 7 when came out of his, dd1 is still sopping wet and is 5, dd2 has been out of night time nappies since 2 1/2!!! I did nothing different, they're either ready or they're not!

Niecie · 09/06/2008 18:53

We have to bite the bullet with DS2 soon as he is 4.8yrs and dry about 70% of the time.

I don't agree you need to wait for dry nappies all the time. DS1 never had a dry nappy in the morning, not one single day. Then one day when he was about 4.5 yrs we forgot to put one on him at bed time and he was dry the next morning. We tried it again the next night and he was fine. After that he never looked back and he has never wet the bed. I suppose he must have been weeing first thing in the morning being too lazy to get out of bed but who knows. It is a hormonal thing but knowing when the hormones has kicked in is difficult, it seems.

DS2 can go for a week or more with dry nappies but mention the idea of leaving them off and he will have a week of wet ones. I don't think he is going to be as easy as DS1 somehow!

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Smee · 09/06/2008 19:48

OLI if I got DS pink fairy pyjama pants, he'd adore them - pink is still one of his favourite colours

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Smee · 09/06/2008 19:55

Just a thought (and I really haven't a clue what I'm talking about), but how can it be hormonal if they are dry in the day?? Surely they have the control or they don't. I know my DS is trying, I'm pretty sure he's awake when he wets himself, but with him it seems to be habitual as he just does it on waking because he always has and forgets there's no nappy.

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CarGirl · 09/06/2008 19:56

The hormone concentrates the wee so there is a smaller quantity and the bladder can contain it.

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Smee · 09/06/2008 20:00

Ah - I think I get it. I bow to your science CarGirl.

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CarGirl · 09/06/2008 20:03

We've ran out of nappies so I'll probably have sheets to wash tomorrow, still at least it's sunny! My 6 year old does dry for a while but as soon as she is at all unwell or extra tired then soaking, the nappy often leaks but without the nappy it is the duvet as well as all the sheets and covers!!!! She is devasted that her 2 younger sisters are nappyless at night so it's def not laziness for her.

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Smee · 09/06/2008 20:12

Poor girl. Must be hard with little sisters being able to. I wondered why you knew the background, now I get it totally. Hope the hormone kicks in for her and you soon. After all, this weather won't last forever..

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CarGirl · 09/06/2008 20:18

I think with mine though because she does achieve some dry nights that she is just an incredibly deep sleeper, trying to wake her is impossible. A bedwetter alarm may help her because it would wake her (supposidly) as she was starting to wee. However before I go down that route I shall just wait and see what happens over the next year.

cece · 10/06/2008 11:57

Our first night without a nappy! And dry!

Bless him he was so excited he spent an hour on and off popping to the toilet before finally falling to sleep at quarter to 9!

How was it last night smee?

bumpbumpbump · 10/06/2008 12:04

There is a specific hormone which causes the body to produce less pee during the night - vasopressin. It's a specific night time hormone.

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