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9yo massive tantrum after playing Fortnite

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SidonieBaker · 19/05/2025 18:29

DTS2 had (as usual) an enormous tantrum after being told to come off Fortnite tonight - the rule is, he gets an hour to play and that's it - his behaviour is absolutely horrendous if he's on any longer. Tonight he was told he had an hour, left for the hour, no interruptions - I went back in after the hour and told him that was it. He asked for a couple of minutes to finish off a round and I said ok, then at the end of that it was clear he wasn't anywhere near finished and it was just a fib, so I switched the internet off. He had been told and told and told and told that he had strictly an hour, we were going out so there was no possibility of extra time, etc etc - and he still went apeshit Shock

When I say apeshit - shouting, screaming, swearing - picked up his belt and swung it at me and DTS1, we both got hit with the buckle (DTS1 worse than me). More tantrumming, more swearing, threats to call Childline, threats to leave home, and so on. Told me what an awful person and mum I am, he hates me, he'd rather just live with DP as DP doesn't restrict his Fortnite time... on and on and on.

I loathe the game, his behaviour is terrible after playing, he's bright red and screaming - I'd never have let the DTs have it myself but DP caved in when he learned that most of the kids at their football club play (same age - all 8/ 9/ 10yo) and quite a lot of their school friends too. DTS1 will whine and whine for more playing time but doesn't have an absolute meltdown over it like DTS2.

He's slightly calmer now and I said I'm not going to discuss it with him again, he can wait and talk to DP when he gets back from work as he clearly won't listen to me anyway. I've switched the internet off to his PC and frankly it won't be coming back on any time soon, his behaviour has been appalling and he needs to understand that - but I'm at a loss for what else to do, he doesn't even seem to get that he could have seriously injured me and/ or his brother.

A close friend's DS turned violent at 13/ 14, they'd been very close up to him turning around 12 and then suddenly he started being rude, secretive, school refusing etc - it ended up with him hitting her, threatening her etc until she had to arrange for him to live with his DF as she was scared of being injured. I keep thinking about that now and thinking, what if that's DTS2? What if he starts doing that when he's bigger than me and stronger than me?

If anyone has any words of wisdom they would be much appreciated. I'm still in shock really and upset that he's spoilt what had been a nice day (we were going to go to his sports club too but couldn't as he was being so awful) and maybe I'm catastrophising based on my friend? But really I just don't know how to make him see that his behaviour is not normal/ acceptable!

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babyproblems · 19/05/2025 23:42

Stop the gaming. End of. He’s 9 and he’s not old enough and it’s not good for him. It’ll be hard but I’d play hardball now before he’s a teen and start finding friends who do things not sat gaming!!

RabbitsRock · 19/05/2025 23:45

Always surprised by how many parents allow young kids to play this game. Otherwise responsible switched on people. One of my friends has a DS10 with behavioural problems (he is still having therapy to help I believe) & he’s been playing for at least a couple of years!

Hyperbowl · 19/05/2025 23:50

If my child hit me with a belt there is absolutely no way their console would ever see the light of day again let alone a game they’re not remotely old enough to play. If you give the game back you’re just making a rod for your own back and giving him the green light to do it again further down the line. It won’t improve unless you completely ban the game altogether. Fortnite is literally brain rot and causes personality changes in children. It’s the one game I’ve never let my DS play and he’s nearly 15.

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MiAmoreChicaDee · 19/05/2025 23:54

We allowed our 11-year-old DS to play Fortnite on his Switch this year after looking into the game and seeing that the game was age-appropriate (he’s turning 12 soon), You can play it without having to purchase items, you can block public access and only play with enclosed groups etc, so from a safety point of view, the controls are pretty good. But we didn’t realise quite how addictive the game is, It began to cause behavioural problems in our DS as well, Culminating in him having a huge screaming match with me, or at least AT me, which he has never done before . I didn’t rise to his shouting, and walked away, but after that, we took the switch away for two weeks while we considered what the new rules were going to be given the huge change in his behaviour. I really felt that we had lost our kind sweet boy. My husband and I discussed it a lot, and after the two weeks went back to my son with a really clear list of rules and consequences, that we made sure he understood before returning the switch to him.

Personally, given the addictive nature of the game, I think 9 is too young. It is set up to draw you in, with ever changing new worlds and exciting new kit. It might not feel like it, but it is within your power as his parent to remove the game from your life and his life. You can tell him that you’ve been looking into the game, that you’ve been shocked and upset by his recent behaviour, you’ve discovered that it is a 12+ game and so you’re going to remove it. Yes, he will scream and shout, and probably beg for a week or so, but he’s a child living in your house and he will have no option other than to accept it. You could try and ease the pain by doing some fun stuff with him. He will be addicted to this game, and having withdrawal when he has not on it. Having it removed will feel like pain to him, and he may seem heartbroken but stay strong if you want your boy back.

When we realised how addictive the game was, we decided to restrict DS to playing only for 1h15, and only on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday and Sunday, he’s only allowed to play if he has finished his homework. But, he is almost 12 and not 9, he does have more maturity than a 9 year old. Since we introduced this much stricter rules, his behaviour has improved enormously. He has great fun on the game with his friends, but I wish we had never introduced it into our lives.

If my DS ever complains to me about the restrictions, especially compared to his friends, I say to him ‘Gosh, aren’t you lucky to have parents that love you so much but they wont allow you to damage the development of your brain by spending too much time on Fortnite at your age’ and variations on the theme. I try and always approach these pleadings with love and smiles, and despite him complaining, it usually manages to raise a smile back, accompanied by an eye roll. A tickle and a hug goes a long way!

PS If you do decide to allow him to continue to use it, do you know that you can set a timer on the switch itself via an app on your phone? Sorry it’s my husband‘s department, I can’t really give you any more information though I can ask him if you would like to know more. DS will then see the time he has on the screen, which I think your son will find easier to handle than his mother coming in and telling him to get off the device mid-game. We also always allow the option for 15 minutes more, eg the timer will be set for an hour but he can get a bonus 15 minutes at the end of it if he comes and asks for it. This way, he feels like he’s winning and we haven’t lost anything as we know we’ll give him 1h15 in any case. At any other time, the switch is turned off remotely and password protected, and DS cannot access it without our express permission.

PPS We decided on an hour according to government recommendations for screen time for children his age (we don’t live in the UK, I don’t know if there are similar guidelines in the UK but you can also find guidelines online).

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do and how it works out! It is possible to restore peace and Harmony, we’re the proof in the pudding!

PPPS I read recently that Kirsty Allsop became so sick of the arguments and disobedience from her kids to do with devices, that she smashed all of her kids devices up with a hammer when they went over their screen time for the umpteenth time. So you always have THAT as a nuclear option…lol

TheHerboriste · 19/05/2025 23:57

Totally inappropriate for a child his age to be gaming.

Don’t you have any concerns for the well documented effects on the developing brain??

ohfook · 20/05/2025 05:00

I hadn’t anticipated how bad peer pressure would be over things like this. I feel like it’s much worse than when I was younger. After a few false starts, I’m very clear on the fact that every family is making the rules that work best for them. That might mean that X friend has more screen time than you or is allowed on different games - that’s fine. That’s what works for his family and this is what works for ours. I’ve just stopped entertaining that conversation anymore, whereas previously I think I was a a bit too concerned about him missing out, and that’s definitely helped too.

CrownCoats · 20/05/2025 06:54

SidonieBaker · 19/05/2025 22:44

@CrownCoats, please do read the post before having a go at me again commenting - I've put Fortnite is 'banned for the foreseeable future' and then 'it will be at least a week before we even discuss him possibly getting it back'. Again, please note the word possibly in the sentence above Hmm

Just to be clear: it is completely banned for now. We won't even discuss him possibly getting him back for over a week. If he gets it back, it won't be for a good long time. I have put all the above in my PP and also explained again that I didn't give the game to him in the first place, so your sniping towards me is completely misplaced here.

You literally said “Fortnite has been banned for the foreseeable future. I've told DTS2 (Dear Twin Son 2!) that it will be at least a week before we even discuss him possibly getting it back, and after that any game playing time will be completely depending on him earning it once we feel that his behaviour has reached a certain level”

It’s either banned or it’s not. You are contradicting yourself. If it’s banned, why will you be discussing him possibly getting it back?

Facecream24 · 20/05/2025 06:59

We’ve just caved and let DS have it aged 11. What I’ve quickly learnt is that it’s not the game necessarily that affects the behaviour but stopping playing at the ‘wrong’ moment. You need to let the rounds play out. So our first rule is that he doesn’t start a round if he needs to be going somewhere anytime soon. So we had an argument before I realised this when he refused to come off and have a melt down but ever since we’ve applied this rule he now finishes the round he’s playing and stops playing with no issues whatsoever.

drspouse · 20/05/2025 07:34

I'm Team "no more Fortnite".
My DS has SEN and doesn't play it. We visited a new school when he was about 9 and all the boys were asking if he had it, when he said No they wanted to know why and I said "because he's not allowed" and they looked like they'd never heard of the concept. He's 13 and no plans at all to get it.
Get it out of the house - delete it, or sell the disk (sorry I am not sure on the technical side!).

ObstreperousCushion · 20/05/2025 07:51

It’s true that he may miss out a bit socially. Especially if he’s in a small primary that has a strong culture already set for the older boys.

But I’ve found DC will over time find other DC whose parents are similarly strict on screen time, and do non-screen things with them. Those friendships tend to work well, as the families have more aligned values.

It’s not long term damaging, in fact it’s long term valuable in terms of promoting socialisation in a variety of ways and settings, without being reliant on one game.

RedToothBrush · 20/05/2025 07:53

Words of wisdom

It's a twelve rated game. If you are letting your underage child play a game that makes them have appalling behaviour, perhaps be a parent and stop them playing that game.

This isn't hard.

RedToothBrush · 20/05/2025 07:59

I hadn’t anticipated how bad peer pressure would be over things like this

I'm sorry but peer pressure as an excuse is just weak parenting.

"My child wants to do heroin because all his mates are doing it and threw a tantrum over it, should I give in and let him?"

No. Same applies to any situation a child acts in an appalling way because they aren't getting what they want. Children can disagree with you and voice objections without throwing a wobbler - and since you are the parent even then you can still say no. What other parents do shouldn't be relevant if there is a good reason to say no in the first place. Having a meltdown is always a good reason to say no.

beAsensible1 · 20/05/2025 08:01

So if this is how behaves when he uses you don’t let him use it? Wtf. That violence from him is an outsized and frankly
dangerous response.

he cannot regulate when playing these game so you should get rid of the whole thing. Jesus

beAsensible1 · 20/05/2025 08:06

As parent La you have to teach your children not be follow fashions and give into peer pressure.

every single time they say someone else has. Something

you remind them that if their friends jump off a bridge it doesn’t mean they should. If a friend shaves their bum it doesn’t they should. Over and over and over.

how can you expect your children to resist peer pressure if you can’t?

nightmarepickle2025 · 20/05/2025 08:09

He’s 9. Don’t let him play the game again. Doesn’t matter what his mates are doing. He’s 9, you are his parent, what you say goes.

stackhead · 20/05/2025 08:11

He hit you in the face with a belt during a rage tantrum at 9 and you're still questioning what to do?!

Fucking hell.

Consoles lost. Full stop. For a very very long time.

Mama1980 · 20/05/2025 08:20

Honestly op I think the only answer here is to remove the console for several years. This is horrific.

MrsKeats · 20/05/2025 08:39

Facecream24 · 20/05/2025 06:59

We’ve just caved and let DS have it aged 11. What I’ve quickly learnt is that it’s not the game necessarily that affects the behaviour but stopping playing at the ‘wrong’ moment. You need to let the rounds play out. So our first rule is that he doesn’t start a round if he needs to be going somewhere anytime soon. So we had an argument before I realised this when he refused to come off and have a melt down but ever since we’ve applied this rule he now finishes the round he’s playing and stops playing with no issues whatsoever.

‘You need to let the rounds play out’
Absolute rubbish.
The op needs take the game away which was never suitable for a child of 9 in the first place.

PurpleThistle7 · 20/05/2025 09:59

Just read this again as it was so horrifying and see the major issue is that OP and her DP don't agree on this - so really the first step is to sit down with him and get a plan together.

For me I'd honestly put away the entire console for several months but appreciate that punishes both children - but honestly, video games aren't a 'must' and your children will really benefit from a total reset. There's no chance either of them would have Fortnite again for years and years - probably forever as I cannot cope with that level of anxiety. (Am aware at some point it isn't in the parents' control but not until they aren't paying for it!)

Then if you want to reintroduce the video game console, it would be not online, simple games only. For very limited amounts of time. And absolutely no bickering about more time, extra time, right in the middle of whatever time, etc etc etc. They have to earn back your trust and never ever mention it without it being in the structure you set up. My son knows that if he asks either of us once, that's the answer - no point asking again or going to the other parent or anything like that. Any hint of any whining and it's gone for a week.

WarriorN · 20/05/2025 11:31

MrsKeats · 20/05/2025 08:39

‘You need to let the rounds play out’
Absolute rubbish.
The op needs take the game away which was never suitable for a child of 9 in the first place.

it’s because they play as a team with friends and need to complete a stage or mission.

a bit like hauling a child out of an organised football game.

a colleague warned me of this which is one of the reasons we haven’t got it

Theunamedcat · 20/05/2025 18:30

I've got to admit it's the most uninsalled app on my Xbox for a reason it starts off ok then the behaviour deteriorates then it's off they haven't really played it much since lockdown when the school children played in big groups quite happily because they could talk to each other so if its any consolation the obsession doesn't seem to last long

What's really bad is wrestling games I paid a fortune on one as a distraction while I was having a new kitchen I uninstalled it despite it being the correct age for my ds

mindutopia · 20/05/2025 18:37

My dd is in secondary school. Absolutely no way she’d be allowed to play Fortnite. Just say no.

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