Vomiting in 4year old Help!!

[midwifeelady3]

Hey my sons teacher told me today when I picked him up that he had two soft poops but wasn’t runny enough to be diarrhoea as soon as we got home i realised he wasn’t himself he went straight to lay down normally he loves to play with our cat and run around and ask for apple juice

he went straight to sleep and woke up vomiting I’ve tried to give him liquids he’s refusing what should I do pls when do I take him hospital or call 111

and any tips to get liquids in pls

Forgot to mention he’s just recovering from a cold

If he’s not taking fluids then you have to take him to A&E.

Sounds like a standard bug. I personally wouldnt worry at all tonight if it’s just vomiting.

I don’t think hospital or 111 is required at the moment unless he’s unresponsive.
It’s likely a stomach bug which will be a rough 12-24 hours then ok.
Obviously keep an eye on him, his temp, how alert he is etc and if he refuses liquids for a prolonged period he may need checking but it’s likely to pass on its own.

I think just let him rest.
This sounds like usual D&V
If he is feeling sick still them I'm not surprised he isn't drinking.
Give him a bit and just offer a little every half hour or so.

all hospital would do is get you to give 5ml of liquid every 5 mints (either dioralyte or water) -normally with a syringe so you could just try at home yourself.

Equally if he's only just starting puking he may go a few hours without fluids as the bug is working it's way through. Unless he's showing signs of severe dehydration at that age he can manage a few hours of it.

@Phunkychickendont they give like a anti sickness medicine so it can ease the vomiting so he’s able to keep liquids down

It sounds like a normal sickness bug - the only thing to do really is to ride it out. Small sips of water/juice. There’s a nasty one doing the rounds at the moment at DS’ school.

It sounds like a stomach virus in a 4 year old. It is something EVERY parent needs to be able to deal with because it is pretty common.

Does he have significant other medical conditions that are making you worried?

Otherwise give his stomach a little bit of time to rest.

Then 5mls fluid every 5/10 minutes. Once he tolerates that for an hour, double it

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diarrhoea-and-vomiting/

Advice here including red flags etc.

Children are not given antisickness medicines because they are unnecessary in an uncomplicated virus and cause side effects.

@tigerlily9 What are you on about?

He's been at school today and only just started vomiting.

He's 4 years, not 4 days old. He will have a reasonable capacity to go without fluids for some time.

Taking him to A&E will put many other people at harm for no good reason.

Yeah just sounds like the typical tummy bug, we’ve had one hit our household a few weeks back and it wiped us all out like the plague, just something you’ve gotta ride out in afraid 😟
unless your little one becomes dehydrated or lethargic I would just offer fluids at home (ice lollies in this weather) and if he doesn’t eat it will just be his body’s way of getting rid of the bug
I hope he feels better soon 💜

Definitely no need for 111 or A&E. Is this his first sickness bug? You just have to ride it out I'm afraid. Put towels down on the bed and a bowl next to him, I usually bring my children in to bed with me when they are ill so I can catch the sick.

Have a look on the NHS website for advice, if you Google norovirus it should be the first thing that comes up.

This is rhyme is really twee, but helpful:
1-3 is healthy pee!
4-8 it's time to hydrate!

https://www.nhsinform.scot/campaigns/hydration/

You need to look at output. If he is weeing about the same as usual he is unlikely to be dehydrated and 24 hours or or so of vomiting is fine. If he is weeing much less than usual and he wees are small and darker yellow in colour, then his body is dehydrated and needs hospital.

Sickness is the body's way of saying "there's something in me that I don't like and I want to get it out!". It's honestly best to let it crack on and get rid of it, unless the sickness is really damaging the body. Giving anti-sickness is actually often counter productive if it's a bug, because you WANT the bug out! Stopping the D+V can keep it in!! Obviously if D+V are being caused by something that won't stop like chemo meds, then you need to give anti-sickness because the person could just keep vomiting until they totally dehydrate, but your son should fight off the bug before that happens.

A&E????? What?
How have you made it to 4 and apparently never had a stomach bug before?
Let him rest and keep offering fluids. No food til tomorrow I wouldn’t think and then just some plain things like toast.
Unless he continues to vomit for an extended period of time or becomes lethargic or other symptoms develop just he does not need medical attention.

@stichgurusoo helpful thank you soo much

And no, they won’t give a child anti-sickness medication in the scenario. Why would they?

Sounds like he has a stomach bug, he can be sick for a couple of days with it and may be off his food & drink during it. All the hospital would do just now is tell you to monitor and offer him small drinks/ fluids more often. When my little girl had it, they suggested a syringe of 5ml apple juice every 5 mins. They said to only return if she wasn’t taking any liquids, not peeing and blood in her sick, otherwise it was just a wait it out sort of thing.

@stichguru I disagree that fewer wees/darker wees need hospital - please see the indications for A&E from the NHS.

Fewer wees would be absolutely be expected during D&V. Oral rehydration from a pharmacy would be fine in the vast majority of cases.

Sorry OP this sounds like such an overreaction. It would be madness to take a child with D&V to A&E - you risk spreading it.

If he vomited after after school and you posted at 18.23 we’re talking about 3 hours. Bugs like this can easily last 24 hours until they get over the worst, if he is showing signs of dehydration tomorrow then possibly A&E but it’s not appropriate to try and get anti sickness meds now.

@HotDogKetchupovereaction where? Maybe for you but I don’t play about my child if your not going to give good advice then don’t comment at all this is the first time I’m dealing with this and this is suppose to be a support group to get help and advice from other parents

again nothing will ever be me overreacting with my child because sometimes overreacting can save your child people are to laid back these days that’s why you hear certain things in the news

Suggesting you take a child to a&e in these circumstances is a total overreaction and waste of resource. Not to mention a risk to those in A&E who are vulnerable.

@Smartiepants79just haven’t lol guess my time now 😅

Also boiling and cooling water can help as even in treated water there are some impurities that normally the tummy would handle fine, but a sick one on the verge of throwing everything back up might not. (I was told this by 111 when my husband had food poisoning and had been literally throwing up a sip of water within seconds for 12 hours. Probably isn't necessary if your son can keep water down in a few hours.)

@HotDogKetchupi never said I was I said give me tips on when I should meaning red flags wth are you talking about did I write “I’m taking my child hospital now” bec if i was taking him I wouldn’t be writing on Mumsnet for advice

He will undoubtedly have fewer wees if he is being sick. Follow NHS guidance on what to do but A&E is only if he becomes severely dehydrated. It's fine to not "play about" with your child but putting extra pressure on the NHS and spreading a sickness bug to vulnerable people is just selfish.