Vomiting in 4year old Help!!

[midwifeelady3]

Hey my sons teacher told me today when I picked him up that he had two soft poops but wasn’t runny enough to be diarrhoea as soon as we got home i realised he wasn’t himself he went straight to lay down normally he loves to play with our cat and run around and ask for apple juice

he went straight to sleep and woke up vomiting I’ve tried to give him liquids he’s refusing what should I do pls when do I take him hospital or call 111

and any tips to get liquids in pls

What? Don’t take a vomiting child to A&E. it just sounds like a bug. You deal with it at home.

@stichguru Cool/boiled water for adults??

Where are you getting this information from? UK? or overseas?

An irritated stomach will vomit anything - it will not matter if it's cooled boiled water?

It takes time for things to settle Vomiting 1-2days, Diarrhoea 5-7 days (Source NHS info cited above)

@Leo800i will be taking my child if he gets worse you can’t tell me when I should and when I should not for now I will treat him at home if he gets worse I’m deffo getting help I have booked my private doctor to give us a call and get some advice

I wouldn’t recommend apple juice as it’s quite acidic & would just irritate the tummy more. Hope your DS feels better very soon OP

We just got over an awful sickness bug a couple of weeks ago. Our local hospital said there's a lot of a noro type bug around and they've seen lots of kids with it. When my 5yo had it, he vomited almost continuously from 3-6am, then it slowed a little and he kept fluids down for 30-60 mins before vomiting. He stopped vomiting by around lunchtime so it was around 9 hours. Wasn't himself for a few days though.

What we do is:

• use the potty training waterproof bed sheets for them to lie on (in bed as well as on the sofa etc)
• use puppy pads on top of the potty training sheets
• keep a basin and towels nearby
• offer anything they will drink, and if necessary by syringe at 5ml every 5 or 10 mins. Ideally not milk but I do allow it if it gets fluid in.
• when they feel like eating again, I let them have whatever they will eat within reason (generally don't have much in that is unhealthy anyway) and at whatever time they want it. It took a few days for our routine to go back to normal.
• let them sleep whenever
• follow the NHS page for vomiting in children
• otherwise, just wait it out. Vomiting bugs are just the worst!!

@lochmareethank you so much for your advice means a lot ❤️ happy to hear your family got over it it’s awful

UK GP and 111

You’ve posted asking people what you should do. There is no need to be pissy with their responses. The majority are saying the same thing.

@Songbird54321how is that being pissy there’s way you can tell someone without being rude someone telling me I’m overreacting will make me react weather you like it or not !

In exactly the same way this reply is.

You’re overreacting to both your sons illness and the responses on this thread. When my kids have a sickness bug they just like snuggles with me, I offer them water and try and catch the vomit. I don’t think the hyperbole is going to help your child, if anything they’ll feel panicked.

The best bit OP is once you’ve lovingly nursed him back to health you’ll get hit by it too… Kids!

There's lots of both norovirus and rotavirus around right now (this is from government data). Rotavirus vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms but didn't fully prevent infection. Watch out for catching either yourself if you can :/

He's got a bug - you just need to deal with the vomit, get him to take sips of water when he can (which he'll likely bring back up for a few hours), wash the bedding/pj's and hope you don't catch it. Kids are really resilient, DC has had vomiting bugs before where he's been absolutely fine after 12 hours and a nap while I've been laid up in bed for 48 hours.

OP no. Your kid is just a bit sick and to be honest how have they not been sick at all until the age of four that you are so worried and asking.

He probs has flu. Google NHS advice and when to worry. Otherwise sounds like your kid has a vomiting big or flu.

Will he take bits of an ice lolly? Aim for small and often. Much better than having a big drink then being sick.

Why would they give anti vomiting medicine @midwifeelady3 ? If there's something making them ill the last thing you want is it hanging around any longer than necessary.

You've been incredibly lucky going this long without then catching a stomach bug tbh, am sure they'll make up for it when they start school.

Get whatever you'll need for ill adults in now before it hits you.

Good luck

Please don’t take advice from the intranet. Like I said if he can’t keep any fluids down, take him to A&E. It’s one of the criteria in the nhs info page for D&V. If he can’t replace what he’s losing he will become dehydrated.

You could mess around with 111, but they will make you wait for a call back and probably send you to A&E later. You could try calpol but he might vomit that up. Maybe it’s a false alarm, but A&E would rather send you home than see a 4 year old collapsed. They don’t have a lot of reserve and children often look well until they are really unwell.

If he is drinking he needs to be peeing champagne coloured wee ideally, lucazade or iron bru colour needs a lot more fluids.

at this age you won’t be prescribed anti sickness medications as they usually make things worse.

but if you are worried, advice from random strangers on a website is as much use a chocolate teapot and you should see a qualified professional.

@tigerlily9 You don't know how true your advice is. To be specific, the advice about not listening to strangers on the internet. The rest of your advice, not so much.

I suggest you recheck the NHS page, you seem to have misunderstood the criteria for going to A&E

I’m all for advocating for dc OP but ultimately a kid with a stomach bug does not need to be trailed around just to ease the parents anxiety, it’s not fair. Unless they’re dehydrated severely or showing signs of serious illness the kindest thing for them is to let them rest at home and if necessary give 5ml dioralyte via a syringe very regularly.

My bad you’re right it says ring 111. My experience of 111 has not been great though. She might get the out of hours GP to call back some time but I’d take my child earlier rather then in the middle of the night when they get back to you.

You don’t become that dehydrated in 3 hours.

Are you a midwife?