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Is this normal for a 6 year old?

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Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 22:19

So my son was upset because his little brother laughed that his paper aeroplane didn’t fly. So upset he kicked him and then continued to try to kick him until I got my 3 year old out the way. He then kicked me and kept trying to kick and punch me so I had to shut the door on him whilst he pulled at the handle screaming he hated me and was going to kill me if I didn’t open the door. All the while I’m remaining calm and saying “I can see you’re angry, can I do anything to help?” “Why don’t you take a break?”. Nothing worked. He said he was calm and when I opened the door he came in and kicked me.

He has no diagnosis. He just cannot control his temper when he’s angry. Two questions. Is this normal behaviour and what can I do to stop myself and my 3 year old being attacked by him? Should I lock us away?

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Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 05/02/2025 22:23

I don't think that is normal. Sounds like he needs to be taught how to manage his frustration

oustedbymymate · 05/02/2025 22:28

I'm not sure your approach of 'I can see youre angry' is helping here. You need firmer consequences. Violence is not ok

Screamingabdabz · 05/02/2025 22:30

I think there is probably 6 years of back story of his behaviours and your response to it, before we can tell. But I certainly wouldn’t be calmly saying “I can see you’re angry, can I do anything to help?” to a young child screaming the house down and threatening to kill me. It all sounds a bit out of control and that wouldn’t have been normal in my house.

Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 22:39

Well I’ve been trying to validate his emotions so he knows I’m on his side (as per the counsellor he’s seeings advice - I’m paying for him to see her to try and help manage this aggression). Before I’d shout back at him which just made him argue more and then I got even angrier to the point of wanting to give him a sharp slap. I’d say for example “this is not ok to do this. You will lose your Minecraft privileges if you don’t stop” to which he’ll reply “NO I WONT!” and continue to follow me round the house trying to attack me. I follow it through too. He’s been punished countless times for this behaviour. Nothing seems to make a difference though.

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24Dogcuddler · 05/02/2025 22:41

That sounds so stressful for you. Has this happened before or have there been similar behaviour at school?
Sounds like an extreme reaction to what he saw as a failure.
Once a child is in meltdown they can’t really listen to reason or cope with lots of language.
Sounds like you need to set some clear rules and boundaries for behaviour when he is calm. Stick to these with regular reminders.
You need to keep yourself and your youngest son safe. Maybe you could speak to school and if this isn’t an isolated incident your GP.
Just seen your post. Use reduced language in a crisis or none if you can.

fashionqueen0123 · 05/02/2025 22:42

No that’s not normal or acceptable. I’d start with banning screens except some tv shows. No ipads. More creative and constructive play. Get outside if you can. Trampolines can be good for kids to burn off anger or energy. If he’s already seeing someone at 6, that’s quite worrying?

crumblingschools · 05/02/2025 22:43

What’s he like at school?

Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 22:47

No he’s fine at school. The teacher says he’s a role
model pupil. He’s got lots of friends. Very bright and well behaved.

He’s seeing a counsellor who’s helping him identify and talk about feelings. He’s not had any trauma or anything. It’s just my attempt to try and help him.

I did wonder about a trampoline but in that moment when he’s angry it’s like he wants to punish me. I don’t know if he’d respond to the suggestion of going on the trampoline. I think he’s refuse.

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Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 22:49

Yes he’s like this often if he’s angry. He gets very aggressive. The rest of the time he’s loving and chatty.

I know I need to keep us both safe but I’m not sure how other than getting a lock on the door and locking us in another room but that feels crazy locking ourselves away from my 6 year old.

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Rainallnight · 05/02/2025 22:50

My six year old DS does this. He’s adopted and has problems with emotional regulation. We’re looking into getting him a diagnosis.

Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 22:53

Rainallnight · 05/02/2025 22:50

My six year old DS does this. He’s adopted and has problems with emotional regulation. We’re looking into getting him a diagnosis.

A diagnosis of what?

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sunnypeachesk · 05/02/2025 22:55

Remove screen time. I promise you'll notice a difference.

Rainallnight · 05/02/2025 23:01

Don’t know till we get it really. Autism/ADHD/attachment issues. He’s completely brilliant in most ways. The most loving child.

Viviennemary · 05/02/2025 23:04

He does have a bad temper. But your calmness just seems to fuel his anger. You need to be more firm and stern with him. Saying can I do anything to help isn't really very helpful to a child having a tantrum.

Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 23:10

Viviennemary · 05/02/2025 23:04

He does have a bad temper. But your calmness just seems to fuel his anger. You need to be more firm and stern with him. Saying can I do anything to help isn't really very helpful to a child having a tantrum.

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Yeah I think you’re right. I used to be stern and shout but it didn’t get me anywhere so I’m trying this approach. TBH I think it just makes him feel MORE powerful so I’m going back to stern words and letting him know the consequences of his actions.

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SummerInSun · 05/02/2025 23:17

I have a friend whose son was like this. Lovely kid, super bright, but couldn't control his temper AT ALL and would lash out physically. Stated to do it at school too and by about age 8 or 9 some other boys started to think it was fun to bait him verbally, knowing he'd then push or shove and then be the one to get into trouble. My friend and her DH spent a fortune on counselling / anger management for him to teach him better techniques to deal with his anger and family counselling for them all. Over time it slowly worked, and then moving to a different school at age 11 meant he got a fresh start with a new peer group where he was no longer known as the kid it was fun to get to blow up.

So I doubt there is any quick solution. Just keep working with the counsellor, etc. although as PP have said, ditching screens, at least during the week, may help.

Beeebon · 05/02/2025 23:25

So sorry you're going through this, it sounds so stressful. My nearly 4 year old is like this too. We wonder about ADHD. He seems to feel his emotions so strongly and can just get so so angry.
In this particular example I think your son was disappointed and embarrassed. And enraged at being laughed at. It's an understandable emotion 100%. I'm sure we can all relate. But just an OTT reaction that is obviously not acceptable.

Please though, whatever you do, do not try and be 'stern' with him or 'punish him'. That's a really old school approach and just doesn't help in these situations and definitely not with kids like this.
Believe it or not there are some amazing accounts on TikTok that would give you amazing tips for this.
Your current calm approach sounds great. That's absolutely what he needs. Sounds like you just need to tweak this a bit.
PP is right about reducing the amount of language you use. It can add to feeling overwhelmed and over stimulating.
But staying calm, close by, and providing an unbothered presence will help him to coregulate.
Absolutely do not try to reason with him in the moment. He is in fight or flight mode and his rational brain is literally not working, so it's a total waste and will make things worse. Have a debrief after the event. That's when the learning will take place. Bed time can be great for these little 1:1 chats and reflections. Or whenever you have a quiet moment away from sibling and he's fully calmed down.
Making him ashamed of his emotions will do harm rather than good. Make sure he knows that feeling emotions is normal and valid. And that you love him no matter what. But that hurting people is never OK. Make sure you give him alternatives instead though. What else can he do with his body? Can he hit a cushion? Close his bedroom door and scream/shout? Would he try breathing techniques or anything else you can find online for tips around regulating his emotions and letting out frustration in a healthy way? Can you model these things for him when you're next upset or angry?

He desperately needs help and guidance in those moments. He doesn't want to feel that way or behave that way. He will feeel scared of his own big emotions and by his own behaviour. He will feel even more scared if you seem flustered or unsure how to handle it. He needs to feel that there are firm boundaries and a strong leader present. This will make him feel safe and calm. You need to be this calm presence guiding him in the right direction

I hear what you're saying though about literally having to lock doors etc. my son is same. I don't have the answer to that, instead I'm trying to work on all the other earlier bits so hopefully we don't reach that point anymore.

I hope some of this helps

TheScenicWay · 05/02/2025 23:39

It does sound stressful. He needs help in managing his emotions and punishments don't help.
I would be really firm and say it's not acceptable to kick people and maybe he needs a few minutes to calm down.
I would also try removing screens completely and getting lots of outdoor time.

skkyelark · 06/02/2025 00:13

If he's a model pupil at school, I wonder if he is using up all his capacity for managing his emotions at school, so then he's on a hair-trigger at home. Could the first thing after school be something that helps him re-regulate and get a bit more capacity? That might be tearing around a park/bouncing like a wild thing on the trampoline, or that might be curling up with a snack and a story or quietly doing some colouring with absolutely no one talking to him or anything in between – it really depends on the child. It might remove or tone down some of the explosions, just because he's recharged his coping ability a bit.

Similar activities at regular intervals might also help on weekends/holidays, just built in as part of the day.

Notgivenuphope · 06/02/2025 00:18

Quit the gentle namby pamby emotion validating stuff now! He needs firm boundaries and to learn that this is highly inappropriate and he is too old for toddler tantrums.
It’s not your fault OP. Mums are being taught that any form of firm discipline is paramount to abuse nowadays so children are ruling the roost with bad behaviour.

FlowerUser · 06/02/2025 00:34

Trailblaze · 05/02/2025 23:10

Yeah I think you’re right. I used to be stern and shout but it didn’t get me anywhere so I’m trying this approach. TBH I think it just makes him feel MORE powerful so I’m going back to stern words and letting him know the consequences of his actions.

Do you praise him and reward him when he is being quiet? When he reacts well to a difficult situation?

Too many parents point out "consequences" when children behave badly but not when they behave well. If he gets attention when he's naughty but not when he is good, then he'll be naughty.

Try saying to him that it's good that he didn't kick or get angry. Give him extra screen time or other treat when he is kind to his sibling / when he's calm.

BTW it's really hard to get paper aeroplanes to fly for lots of reasons. There are some.good folding templates on the Royal Aeronautical Society website. Perhaps you could all try to make them and see whose can fly. People learn by failure so praise the effort and try working out how to improve the aeroplanes.

BertieBotts · 06/02/2025 00:37

My 6yo is like this and has just been diagnosed with ADHD. It's the emotional regulation which he is lacking, so any time something should provoke a slightly annoyed reaction it's basically like it shoots him up to enraged and then he can't wind it back. It's the same for all emotions. If he's excited he's too excited and it's annoying. If he's sad it's the end of the world and he is in floods of tears.

My eldest was similar but he didn't get diagnosed until he was older. He is 16 now and so chilled he is basically horizontal Grin I had absolutely no input on how to manage him when he was little, so we did lots and lots and LOTS of talking about feelings - but outside the moment, when he was calmer. Not in the moment as he couldn't take it in. At that time I just used to put a door between us, which didn't feel like the most appropriate parenting ever but I had no idea what else to do! He did grow out of it. He also didn't have a sibling. Now I have a 3yo as well like you, so I felt we needed a different response. Also, the assessment got pushed through because DS2 doesn't mask at school. Whereas DS1 did.

IME neither a stern, punitive response nor a calm "Oh you are feeling angry!" response will help. The first will escalate things in the moment but not reduce the behaviour over time, sometimes it will also increase stress generally or actively be confusing/feel unfair to him because he genuinely wouldn't understand why he had got into trouble - and the second is just noise to them and doesn't do anything to resolve things. But it did seem to be useful to talk about feelings outside of the moment (which is also what we have been advised to do for DS2).

The most useful things I've come across have been:

The book Big, Baffling Behaviours - this explains how the nervous system can go into "defence mode" and also sort of identifies several different levels of their nervous system being riled up, so you can pick your approach based on what level they are at, which is extremely helpful. At a lower level, you can diffuse with humour or just correct without making it into a challenge (e.g. they say GET ME A DRINK NOW and you say OK! I can get you a drink, but, I'd like you to ask nicely.) or just ignore behaviour but kind of notice that it's happening and steer them into some activities which will help. Whereas at some more extreme levels it's more about de-escalating and keeping everyone safe and holding a boundary about not letting him hit his brother for example, and as far as possible not letting him hit you either - I would do this by physically blocking his hands or sometimes holding him in my lap facing away from me. But the other thing which is helpful about the levels is that like when he said he was calm - he had probably gone down to a calmer level to be able to say that. But he wasn't right at 0 again yet which is why he tried to hit you when you went in.

OK - actually I have just noticed the time so will pause there because otherwise I'll be here all night. But I will come back and put on some more resources tomorrow or the next day.

The other things we've been advised to do are to focus on structure at home so make everything as clear and predictable as possible, because uncertainty will increase anxiety which increases the stress response. You can't remove all uncertainty so it's just about removing some of it. And also for us not to try to rescue him from things, including his own feelings.

And I have also noticed that a lot of the time, when I notice a lot of the little signs showing he's dysregulated at a low level, it's because he really needs to go to the toilet but he has been ignoring it for so long. Instigating a before-bed-everyone tries for a poo routine (started for the 3yo for potty training!) has actually worked wonders in our house.

Devianinc · 06/02/2025 00:54

Sibling rivalry is alive and well everywhere in the world. It’ll get better when they get older. Your first born was obviously a Covid child who got a lot of attention. It’ll be fine in the long run. Just make sure his brother doesn’t get the chance to get him. You have to be on guard. Mean little buggies.

username09725 · 06/02/2025 00:56

This sounds like autism to me, rather than ADHD, or both (professional with 20 years in the field).

SnoopysHoose · 06/02/2025 01:07

“I can see you’re angry, can I do anything to help
to a child who has attacked a 3 yr old and is threatening to kill you??
What reply are you hoping for?
This nicey nice is ridiculous.