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Teenage son 'given up' on GCSE'S

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Amblu81 · 09/12/2024 08:22

My son is due to sit his GCSEs this summer and has told me over the weekend he just isn't going to bother. He is not academic, as hadnore detentions than I have had hot dinners and literally does the bare minimum to not get expeled. His saving grace is that he is polite, kind, always thinks of others and looks out for his mates....always accepts the punishment with good humour. One teacher said he is a joy to teach. She just wishes he actually did the work.
He doesn't want to go to college, reckons he can work for his Dad (we are separated) his Dad has several dubious construction businesses and already takes on 2 people who quite often get laid off as not enough work, much of it is cash in hand as his books only report £25,000 earnings. Also DS and him have a very on off relationship dueto his father's unpredictable temper, at the moment he barely goes round to his Dad's for dinner once a week.
He has sat 2 gcses already as that is how his school works. He missed out on 4s by 4 marks on one subject (we did 10 days ofcramming revision!), and for the other subject, media nvq, he got a distinction for his final assessment, but where he hadn't done well in the other assessments, he just missed the 4 again.
His mocks last month really disappointed him, 4 ungraded, 2 2s and a 1. He now just cannotbe bothered. Why try if he is going to fail anyway. It's like he thinks everyone will laugh at him if he tries and fails. He did the same with Cubs and then Army Cadets....got so far and then it came to an assessment, knew he was weak in one area and despite knowing its commonplace to need several attempts for the first 'star' he just quit and never went back. His LCpl was as stunned as I was as he was enjoying it and doing very well in most areas.
And as for not wanting to go to college, we viewed several colleges and one in particular really inspired him. There were options whatever grade he got, and he asked questions, engaged with staff on the night and genuinely wanted to go. That and an Apprenticeship....but now, nope, nothing.

I struggled to get him to even go to school this morning and where he refuses to do homework,he has 4 afterschool detethis wek, which doesn't help. He just doesn't see the point.

I work full time, I worked my way up through an engineering team to become head of department. Up until last week my evenings have been sat helping him with homework, revision and picking him up from detentions. Now he is refusing to even let me help. At his parents evening, his teachers even said he is bright, he can get 4s or 5s, he just needs to do the work. His science, again, so close! When we did a practise paper last week for his homework, there were only 2 questions he was stuck on. And we don't sit there for hours doing this, we grab a hot chocolate on the sofa and fo 2 x 10 min slots of a weekday evening. That's all he was prepared to do.

How do I get him to see he is throwing it all away, without adding pressure over these exams?
What else can I do? I am gutted for him! I have notified the school too.

Background, he is a July born so will still be 15 when he sits exams. He hangs round with a bunch of kids who are not intending on college and just want to do nothing, or work with their parents. I have DS 28 nights out of 30. It primarily rests with me as his Dad has a bull in a china shop approach. DS is the most laid back kid, nothing stresses him (other than his Dad), even constant detentions it seems.
Please help

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LemonTraybake · 09/02/2025 15:56

Late to the party on this one, but we are parenting the same child, I swear. Mine gets detentions daily because he is late to lessons during the school day. He doesn't bother going to the 20 minute after-school detentions because they never tell him (apparently - but he wouldn't go even if they stapled a notice to his head), so then he gets weekly leadership detentions for missing all the smaller ones. He doesn't go to those because he knows the next level is being pulled from class for a one-on-one detention during class time a teacher. He likes those, because he gets to chat to the teacher. Mine also doesn't see the point of GCSE or further study, but 'don't worry mum, I'm going to be successful in whatever I do.' He is fascinated by gangsters and drug dealers.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/02/2025 17:07

He needs to talk to a careers teacher about this, and be reminded that if he doesn't get his maths and English then he must continue to study them at college until 18 alongside an apprenticeship he can't just 'get a job' and stop learning at 16 these days. Even if he's not set to pass, the more effort he puts in now (when he has to attend those lessons anyway) the easier life in sixth form college will be

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/02/2025 17:08

Octavia64 · 09/12/2024 08:51

This is very common.

(Ex teacher)

Focus on the maths and English. Ignore everything else. Those are the ones he will have to resit if he doesn't get them.

It's a psychological defence - he knows he isn't doing well and it's easier to say well I'm very bright but I didn't try than I tried and I still did badly.

If you can persuade him to, get a tutor. Failing that bribery works wonders.

Yes, I wonder if school will let him formally drop a couple of subjects

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Phineyj · 09/02/2025 17:38

They won't because there wouldn't be anyone to supervise the hours a week he'd then be free.

Amblu81 · 09/02/2025 19:29

Well mine seems to have improved a little. I got the school to agree that the only homework he has to do is English and Maths. I sit down with him and help him with the homework...in English (he hasnt made the distinction between language and literature, so currently working better in both!) he dictates and I write, we have moved to him typing the answer with the view of him then starting to write pen to paper. In class, he has had some timed essays this week and he has made huge improvements, which he can see for himself. His maths has improved too although we have had a few teacher problems where basically no teacher wants him in their class as he is so disruptive. He has now gone back to his original teacher who teaches the level up from my son. Luckily my son has now seen how awful the other teachers were and is actually happy to go back to this teacher. So he has been behaving better....but has some catching up to do, which we are working on at home together. The positive points and positive emails home are now evening out the negative and detentions. He is still behaving like a wally in other lessons. He has also sat down and done a college application for a mechanics course which has helped focus. We are still facing 4 detentions a week, half of which he refuses to go to though for behaviour. And I hadn't spotted but youngest son had been struggling at school and broke down in tears as he felt lonely as I had been spending all my time with his big brother. Or the arguments with big brother upsetting him. My relaxing Sunday today involved aenglush language and maths, then an hours hike with youngest when he came back!!

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Phineyj · 09/02/2025 21:23

That's very positive OP. Good work!

Rumplestiltz · 09/02/2025 21:36

Well done op sounds like you are doing a brilliant job. So hard trying to juggle between their needs but this is so important for your eldest right now.

LemonTraybake · 09/02/2025 22:44

Well done @Amblu81 . You're doing a much better job than me!

Temporaryname158 · 09/02/2025 22:57

To some extent there is little you can do but have you explained to your son what will happen to manage his expectations ie he won’t have any money, you won’t be giving him money and he will need to pay for his phone and social life etc. once he finishes school he will need to pay board.

he probably thinks he can sit at home whilst you pay. I’d make it clear he will need to do soemthing

Amblu81 · 10/02/2025 07:55

@LemonTraybake It has been such a headache!! I cannot say what the turning point was but just making sure he knows I have not and will not give up on him, no matter what he puts me through. He is never going to be an exemplary student, the detentions still keep coming. Caught him smoking weed in his bedroom last weekend too which I made very clear was not acceptable. He knew the rules!
I am sitting here wondering how the heck I am going to get through another week of it, but we have no choice but to keep on going. I am sure yours will get there, I am sure you are doing a great job too. All we can do is make them aware of their options, the results of their behaviour and just keep supporting them. I am anticipating being back to square one after half term..... but will deal with that when I get there

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BumpedmyElbow · 10/02/2025 10:04

@Amblu81 I feel the need to write to say what a lovely mummy you sound like. Your love for both your boys comes shining through - your patience and perseverance. I can hear how much work you are putting in. It's lovely to think of your son having the transformative experience of seeing his grades improve. You have got this! Whatever the outcome of his GCSEs, he will know his mum has his back x

Monkeypuzzle21 · 31/03/2026 21:35

i know this is an old post but it came up in a search because I am going through the same thing with my son. OP I was wondering how your son got on in his GCSE

fruitypancake · 31/03/2026 21:43

Tutor ? Would he engage , my DS same age and a science tutor has doubled his marks between mocks

fruitypancake · 31/03/2026 21:44

Oh just seen this is last year !

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