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Daughter has a mark on back that’s been there for months now social services involved

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ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:27

Hi everyone, I did post this earlier but had to remove as I accidentally included my daughters name but this is what happened
my daughter has had a mark on her back got to be since she was about 4 months old. I consulted my HV over it because I am definitely an over paranoid mum and I’m sure I convinced myself she had meningitis or something. HV assured me all was fine, it was either skin discolouration or pigmentation almost like a birth mark/mongolian blue spot.
I took her advice and didn’t worry, and the spot never disappeared so I assumed she was right. My sister attended this appointment with me and witnessed HV checking the spot.
Fast forward to Friday 3rd October, I noticed the mark was darker and this took my attention, I attended play group with my friends who also know about the mark and asked them if they think it’s darker, they agreed. I then rushed home and phoned the drs for an emergency appointment.
The drs advised they didn’t know what the spot was and the protocol is to contact social services and to go from there.
I have been put through hell since that day, I have not been allowed to be with my own daughter unsupervised, my mother is living with me, my mother has to even take my daughter to the toilet with her. As a mother who absolutely adores her daughter this is completely heart breaking for me.
I have followed all social services protocol and adhering to their care plan. But my issue is, we took my child to the hospital yesterday for their standard safeguarding procedures and checks,my child was put through the works of X-rays, CT’s, blood tests etc, as you can imagine this was traumatising for both me, her dad and my child herself.
During this appointment I showed the Dr dated photos of my child’s back and the mark there for months (I even proved to the dr that they were original photos)
They had to get in contact with the health visitor who saw the mark who I was hoping could put all of this to bed with her notes, only to find she didn’t make any note of it and apparantly can’t recall as it was so long ago.
This has now meant that because it is an ‘undertermined mark’
I am now under social services with a case worker and my life has been turned upside down. My mother has to supervise me until a decision is made, and this involves their legal team also.
I went to my health visitor for help, I went to the drs for help and I feel as though I have been completely let down by my health services.
I completely understand there are protocols to follow and I have absolutely no issue with that, but the fact that HV did not note this has led to this continuing, if she had noted something we would not be in this situation.
We love our daughter more than anything; she is a happy, healthy, well looked after, clever baby. The problem is my child’s custody and home life is now in danger because of the incompetencies of an NHS employee.
As a mother and a person, I did everything right by my child.
I asked a healthcare provider to look at it, I was told not to worry. I noticed a change, I went to the dr on an emergency appointment. I did everything right.
She’s our absolute world. I trusted the health service to help us and we have been severely let down.
sorry if this sounds a bit too formal this is basically copied from my complaint to the healthboard haha

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LizzieBananas · 06/10/2024 13:30

Speak to the HV’s manager. It should have been noted at the time and your health visitor will certainly now be aware of the consequences of this.

AntiHop · 06/10/2024 13:31

How long since you first brought it to thd attention of the health visitor?

Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 06/10/2024 13:31

The best thing you can do is co operate and see things through.

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ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:39

Thank you. I’ve raised it with management and made a complaint to the heath board because I can’t imagine thinking about how many other people could be put through something like this

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ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:40

I brought it to her. Attention in April and every appointment since pretty much, I even have a note in my red book stating ‘Mongolian blue spot’ that she wrote for me to research in April 2024 but she didn’t sign or date and didn’t include in her own notes either

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ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:41

That’s what I’m doing I’ve had about 2/3 days of just crying but I’ve realised I’ve just got to do what they ask to hopefully see this through. Thank you very much

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TheDoorsOpen · 06/10/2024 13:44

My son had a Mongolian blue spot
I didn't notice it till he was about 2 weeks old.
I was distraught thinking his ribs were bruised.

Luckily the midwife knew what it was right away and noted it in his red book with a diagram

It faded when he was about 3.

We are white and don't know of any ethnicity in the family but it must be there somewhere.

It's a scary situation.

We also had a massive burn like mark appear on our daughters thigh at 2

Straight to A&E and I was sure we were going to be investigated for 'burning' hwr with something hot. I couldn't understand it as she had not been near any hot liquids.

Turns out she had been bitten by a bug and had a reaction!

Again, very lucky that the hospital staff knew what it was!

Twofifty · 06/10/2024 13:46

As the HV wrote it in your red book would it being in their handwriting help it be acknowledged?

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:47

Oh gosh!! They are definitely very scary situations to be in! Thankfully the hospital staff and midwives for you were good at their jobs and knew what was going on!!

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kittybiscuits · 06/10/2024 13:48

OP did you tell anyone via WhatsApp or text that you'd had the spot checked by the HV? If so, print out screenshots as evidence. That's poor record-keeping by the HV.

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:51

I’m going through everything I have to collect as much evidence as possible. I’ve got photos, videos and hoping I can find a text to my partner about it because I’m sure I’ve sent texts about it. This was my point, I work in a job where safeguarding is vital, if I didn’t record a mark on a child I would lose my job

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kittybiscuits · 06/10/2024 13:55

You probably know this, but you can search texts and WhatsApp to find specific words. I'm sure it will all eventually be okay, but it's immensely stressful, of course.

paisley256 · 06/10/2024 13:57

So sorry you're going through this op. Hope it's all over with soon and you can get back to normal. Sounds horrendous.

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 13:58

So far they’re saying that we just have to wait for the drs full report before they can move forward with the investigation but I’m pressing for them to look at the handwriting too. Honestly if you see it, where she signed the baby’s weight and wrote about the spot it’s exactly the same just on different pages

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HappyAutumn · 06/10/2024 14:01

What are they suggesting the spot might be?

qualifiedazure · 06/10/2024 14:02

So sorry to hear you're going through this!

There is a protocol that any suspected injury to a non-mobile baby must be referred straight to social services - doesn't matter if there's a reasonable explanation or it could be an accident, it's just a blanket referral.

Hopefully this will be resolved really quickly and the HV involved will get some training/reminders about the importance of writing proper notes.

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 14:04

This is the thing they’ve said ‘they don’t know’ which is exactly what I have written down from the drs preliminary report. Apparantly if the mark is still there in 2 weeks time they will amend and say it’s not a bruise but as of right now they’re medically stating they don’t know what it is

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ItWasOnAStarryNight · 06/10/2024 14:05

You can search your messages in both WhatsApp and messenger for key words. Do that with anyone you regularly contact and see if you can find evidence of that.

Can you go private and have her looked at by a consultant then pay for the report yourself. I'm sure they would want to do their own still but might ease off a bit?

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 14:05

Thank you! This is what’s calmed me down a bit that it’s standard protocol especially in babies under 1, she’s 1 in 2 weeks haha. But I’m just rolling with it to get it over and done with now, in a way I’m glad she’s been checked over medically because it’s been bothering me for months and I’m an over anxious mum who will convince herself that my daughters got a serious illness haha

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ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 14:06

Oh that’s brilliant I didn’t think of either of those suggestions thank you so much!
im going to look into going for a private consultation now thank you so much for that suggestion!

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DanielaDressen · 06/10/2024 14:06

From what you’ve said I’m sure it’ll be sorted out quickly. You have photos over time as evidence. That HV has been negligent though. I’m glad you’ve complained. Part of the issue will be that it’s been over the weekend. The decision will be down to social services, even the dr yesterday will just be doing what needs to be done with regards to medical checks. Yes they’ll write a report for social services saying no fractures, etc but until social services get all that information they won’t make a decision. Hope it’s sorted next week. 🤞

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 14:08

Thank you so much. It’s really nice to hear reassuring words. This is the only thing haha social services don’t work weekends for these things haha. But I’m adhering to all of their requests to show I’m willing to get this sorted asap.
thank you so much for your kind words! X

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ComingBackHome · 06/10/2024 14:22

My ds had a mark on his back like that. Very faint ‘brown’ colour.
When I raised the issue, no one ever thought it was a bruise or whatever worth of involving SS.

Instead I had a paediatrician with a huge group of students coming to look at the mark because it could, apparently, have been cancerous rather a
pigmentation issue (a ‘cafe au lait’ mark is the name I was given then).

Would it be possible for you to have a diagnosis from a paediatrician/dermatologist, which would clear all suspicions?

ForBrickCat · 06/10/2024 14:31

That’s so reassuring! Basically in the UK, specifically wales where we are if a child is under 1 there is a pediatric consultant who carries out an examination and then X-rays and blood tests. They don’t go any further than that and if they can’t determine what it is they basically say that in their notes but I may book with a private dermatologist to get a second opinion thank you!

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ItWasOnAStarryNight · 06/10/2024 14:32

www.nuffieldhealth.com/health-topics/dermatology

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