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3 year old waking in the night and I can’t deal with the anger

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Peonyyyy · 03/09/2024 05:42

Just having a moan. Our boy has always been a fantastic sleeper - we put him down awake from anc early age and he slept through other than when he’s sick or sleep regression.

But the last 6 months have been hell. At bedtime he requests more and more things - more teddies, books etc and finally goes to sleep. He also now demands a night light. He then wakes at 4-5am or sometimes 2am because a teddy las fallen out of his cot, or something else and we go in and sort it. That used to be the end of it, we would pick up the teddy or give him a drink and say it’s still night time and he would go back to sleep.

Now it’s gone downhill even more, for example tonight he woke at 4 shouting mummy, this then turned to crying. I went in and he said his teddy fell out the cot so I found it and put it back. I gave him a cuddle and said night night and he got really angry saying no I want another teddy, I was saying no you already have 3 teddies in your cot and it’s night time etc. he’s now hysterical so I say night night and go to the toilet (I’m 6 months pregnant). My husband comes in to deal with it, ends up showing him videos on his phone. That’s still not enough for him and he screams when put back in his cot. It’s now 5am and we’ve both tried. We’ve tried explaining it to him, telling him he has to stay in his cot until morning as everyone is sleeping, tried saying ok one video then sleep but he still gets angry and wants more.

he actually makes me so angry that I end up speaking to him in an angry tone and when I leave the room I scream in frustration. Tonight I even threw my phone and went downstairs and screamed in the kitchen.

this is followed by lots of self loathing that I can’t keep it together, but I’m just so tired and scared about having a newborn soon with this going on. I just need it to end. I feel like I just want to leave the house and not come back as his crying makes me so angry.

He’s an intelligent boy I don’t know if explaining it to him in the day will help or something.

we have tried bringing him in our bed and he NEVER sleeps, just wriggles around and gets annoyed and wants to go downstairs.

it’s now 5.30 and I can still hear my husband dealing with him. I said we can’t give in to this but honestly what else can we do? He goes hysterical and cries for hours.

It doesn’t matter whether he naps or not. It doesn’t matter what his bedtime is. He just wakes up and doesn’t feel tired and therefore makes us do things with him.

At the moment it feels like life is hell. I have to go to work in 2 hours. I hate myself for getting so angry but in these moments I just hate him. I feel like the extreme anger I’m feeling probably comes from my childhood. My mum has told me that from about 1 year old I wanted to get up with my mum, one night she left me and I cried until the morning (for like 5 hours). I wonder if it’s history repeating. I feel like a terrible mother because I have always been quick to anger and can’t calm down, I mostly keep this in check and I’m very gentle and understanding with him, but when this happens at night I really struggle and I lose it and hate myself.

When he’s not doing this he is a wonderful, kind, gentle and sensitive child, not in any way crazy like some toddlers.

He is overtired from today because he was back at nursery after a holiday and I know he is over tired but how the hell do you get a toddler to just bloody sleep at night when they are over tired?!?! At my wits end

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AmandaHoldensLips · 03/09/2024 10:54

3 is too old for a cot.

StMarieforme · 03/09/2024 11:00

Bed and a stair gate. So he can get his own teddy. Water in a water bottle. No stimulation. Boring as can be. He'll grow out of it.

Peonyyyy · 03/09/2024 11:29

The thing is though, he can reach most things, his water bottle and several teddies are within reach. He seems to be just requesting these things to keep us there. I’m certain if we let him loose in his bedroom he would start asking for tv or whatever toys are downstairs. It seems to be a separation anxiety/boundary pushing thing rather than that he genuinely needs any of these things.

last night was a really bad one, it was clear he was so over tired and when he’s like this he doesn’t listen to us at all 🫠

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MultiplaLight · 03/09/2024 11:34

Sometimes the action of getting out of bed and getting them is a reset. If he feels penned in, he may want to push more.

However, you know your own child.

Whatever you do, do before baby comes!

lochmaree · 03/09/2024 11:47

Haven't RTFT but just listing some things you could try. i appreciate they won't work for every child though!

  • put him in a bed instead of a cot
  • have some open ended style toys in his room (ie nothing that makes noise or lights up)
  • a yoto player/tonie box
  • putting a double mattress in his room then when he wakes one of you sleep/doze in there and he can play or sleep
  • don't give him anything interesting overnight/before a reasonable wake time - no videos or tv, just be boring, no reasoning or explaining.
hellolittleduck · 03/09/2024 15:32

Peonyyyy · 03/09/2024 06:27

he’s only just turned 3, he’s still in a cot because he’s always liked it (it’s a cot bed so plenty of room)

we didn’t think that letting him be loose around the house all night would help him sleep tbh, but maybe we need to rethink now?

Perhaps giving him a new "big boy" bed would be a good re-jig and a new start to a routine.

Drfosters · 03/09/2024 15:40

Just remember there is no harm in choosing the path of least resistance. If it means he sleeps with you or you all end up sleeping on mattresses on the floor just do it. Don’t feel you are failing if your child isn’t sleeping through in a bed. I promise they will be sleeping in a bed when they are 18. I just said to my daughter you were an awful baby and she just replied ‘you’re welcome’ so that’s gratitude for you! 🤣

soberfabulous · 03/09/2024 15:55

My DD was jut like this and a terrible sleeper from birth. At 3 we got a double bed and put her in it. Then we took it in turns to get in with her when she woke up. Worked really well. Divide and conquer.

Peonyyyy · 03/09/2024 16:44

I truly wish he would sleep with us but he doesn’t, we’ve tried sleeping in the room with him next to the cot and bringing him into bed with us, but when he’s like this he basically just wants to get up, go downstairs and play 🫠 I kind of envy people who can just bring their child to their bed because at least they get a bit more sleep.

the thing which benefitted us so well in the early days - him happily falling asleep independently - is actually what makes it harder now. Being with us doesn’t comfort him to sleep, it gives him more energy 😵‍💫😵‍💫

we are going for an early night tonight, hoping that helps and if not at least we will get an earlier night ready for the early start.

will report back! Thanks for all your suggestions

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Peonyyyy · 03/09/2024 16:47

Also PS I’d like to point out that we’ve not had an easy ride with sleep. I think I generalised too much in my first post. Generally he is a good sleeper - slept through from 3 months, generally was a 7-7 kind of guy but we always had long stretches of disturbed sleep when he was teething, going through a leap or poorly, or if he’d just had his jabs. This probably happened every few months or so.

this latest thing feels so challenging because he’s so articulate now and wants things that are ridiculous, when he was a baby we could more easily do a bit of controlled crying when we knew he had had everything he needed and was just overtired, but now it’s not that simple as he just doesn’t give in 🫠🫠🫠

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MultiplaLight · 03/09/2024 17:23

I don't want to read too much into it, but it does seem that (your husband especially) are not used to him pushing boundaries. I think you need strategies to cope with that. Like no phones at all in the morning. It should be boring AF so that sleep is better.
At night, if you know he's got everything, leave him. Repeat that he has everything and leave him to it.

MultiplaLight · 03/09/2024 17:24

A bed would help with knowing he had access to everything and leaving him to sleep too. With a cot if he throws something , he knows you have to come and give it back to him.

Peonyyyy · 05/09/2024 07:59

Well the last 2 nights have been much better, probably just a coincidence tbh! Tuesday night we managed to get him in bed for 7pm which seemed to help loads, he didn’t wake up until 6. Then last night he took a bit longer as we all had dinner together, so he was in bed for 7.45. Both nights he hasn’t asked for a night light which has been great, I really think it’s helped him sleep better to not have that distraction if he wakes in the night. This morning he didn’t wake up until 6.45.

I guess it’s just another one of those phases, the main thing we’re trying to do is get him in bed earlier and hope for the best, then at least we can bank some sleep early in the night in case he wakes up x

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