The Sparkly New 2 (or more) Under 3 Thread- Join us!

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Hello!

Post here if you have 2 or more kids under 3yrs.

We were formerly the 2 under 2 thread, but some inconsiderate DCs went and had birthdays.

Commence rambling / ranting / updates etc

Hello! Can I join for some sanity?! DD1 is just 18 months, DD2 is 12 days. We've enjoyed it so much so far cos OH has been on paternity leave and DD1 has been a little gem. But OH goes back to work tomorrow and I've gone into hormonal meltdown today panicking about doing it all on my own! Must remember to take it 1 day at a time, only got Mon and Tues this week all on my own - DD1 at childminders on Wed and my dear mum wisely offered to help out after OH went back to work rather than while he was at home so is coming to stay Thurs/ Fri. I CAN do this

Hello everyone robino yes, you will be fine!

I had a lovely day today but, this evening my PMT got the better of me with DD1. We'd had stories, I had brushed her teeth and then we rinse out mouth from a cup and then spit in sink. But, for some reason she did not want to rinse and I asked her nicely, said just a quick rinse, that I would sing her a sing whilst we did it but no. She was not having it. Anyway, I had the cup in my hand and, just to make sure I understood, she slapped my hand away and water went everywhere - all over her pajamas, all over my jeans and the cup broke in the sink. Well, I am not proud of my next movements so please do not judge me harshly but, I picked her up (rather firmly and roughtly might I add) and flung her into bed - still soaked through. Then I chucked her blankets over her and slammed the door.

Even DH was surprised at my behaviour. After about five mins - she had not made a sound - think she was scared to (another ) and I had to go in. I didn;t want her going to sleep with that event going through her head. So, I went in, changed her pajamas, gave her cuddles, said sorry and explained why I was angry at her. But she was still looking at me like she was scared. I did silly things like eskimo kisses (tickled her face with my eyelashes etc) and managed to get a giggle.

I still feel like shit though

honastly, I could cry. And just today I uploaded some new photos of her and marvelled at how cute she looked....

I am a bad bad mother.

Jewels, totally dont beat yourself up, I have done the same if you remember me posting a while ago when I chucked DD roughly into the cot and slammed the door. Sometimes you just lose it, do something you arent proud of, and then move on. She will have forgotten in no time. You probably will still beat yourself up about it but you shouldnt.

By the way I heard it was good for them not to rinse?? Better to keep the fluoride in the mouth for maximum benefit. Anyhoo, thats not why you posted.

Had a great weekend but will post about it later, just wanted to support you Jewels.

oh jewels (((hugs))) i have SO been there. it's not good and you feel terrible but really the kids forgive and forget very quickly, whilst we beat ourselves up for years to come.
don't let your dh's reaction upset you either, my dh never loses his temper and it does make me feel extra bad when i do, then i spoke to another mum the other day and she said she and her husband are the same, so we reassured each other that we are normal

days off in norway, lovely

shopping kid-free, also lovely

illnesses with multiple children, not so lovely, hope they are better now?

all going ok here, ds2 finally seeming to crack the sleeping at night lark, 7-5 last night, and i think he only really woke cos ds1 had a nightmare (to do with upsy daisy and a monster i think ) and screamed at 5am. got him back to sleep but no luck with ds2.
ah well, hopeful for tomorrow....

right, off to bed, night all

ps welcome to all newbies, not sure this is the place to find sanity tho

Hi Robino and welcome (congratulations, btw) Like the others said -- you'll cope fine (once you get used to it) and although you'll find us all in the same boat, you might not find sanity here (deranged ).

Hello, everyone else!

Jewels don't feel bad and beat yourself up about DD1. We've all done things we're not proud of (on this thread anyway) and you went back in to make it right. (I sympathise with the tooth-cleaning battle: I hear DP nearly every night trying to stop DD pouring the water she's rinsing with away without even sipping it, or putting the toothbrush down the overflow, or the toilet before brushing it never seems to change...)

Hazeyjane - I was excited about the bunker/air-raid shelter too (had the Bond-villain-style monorail planned out in my head, or at least the new sound-proofed playroom planned). But I think the emphasis is more on there being remains, rather than an actual building underneath the lawn [damn]... You never know though (we've going to try to talk to the neighbours and find some old plans before we take up any more of the grass )

jewels- you're not the first, or the last. Chin up!

Eels fans- i can't find my Daisies album, or my Souljacker one Have been revisiting Beautiful Freak though- it was my angst-anthem when i was 15

No sleep, snotty noses and short tempers here- so nothing new!

Watching Twin Peaks DVD in the evenings- so i have episode 2 and ironing to look forward to tonight, before i retire to bed by 8.30pm at the latest!

argh ds1 appears to have given up on naps after lunch today is day 3 with no nap......
he plays in his room happily for a while but it's not the same as i don't feel i can relax in case he finds some novel way to hurt himself/escape/etc...

and of course ds2 not sleeping at the time of day that would be convenient...
and it's monday, i hate mondays, when dh goes off to work (and won't be back till thurs this week) and i feel like i've been left alone for far too many days.
it always goes quickly but sitting here on a monday it feels like a looooong time on my own with the boys...

been to storyrhymes, last one for the summer tho - not really sure why pre-school activities have to stop for school hols
and to george for sale clothes - totally forgot that i was meant to get stuff for NEXT year, ad just bought some cheap t-shirts for now
may go back tomorrow...

have packed up first baby item (excluding clothes), the plain bouncy chair that ds2 will not sit in anymore, he's now classed as a BIG baby by me and ds1

lovely day here, so may 'release' ds1 and go into the garden.

hi all; grrl think we are catching you colds, stop sharing

Hello Fleecy and Robino (Accept the Chaos, would be my motto for the first few months, actually maybe I'll make that first few years.)

My angst anthem when I was a teenager was 'Every day is like Sunday' by Morrisey, and I've just realised I was about 19 when it came out, so far too old to be moping along the beach in the height of Summer in an overcoat, feeling like the world didn't understand me. God imagine what it's going to be like having teenagers! I'm pretty sure I'll be able to out-mope them.

Jewels, I'm amazed at how cross I can feel with dd1 sometimes, and it never stops making me feel like absolute crap, Please believe us when we say you are not alone!

Damn about the air raid shelter Chaotica, I can see you now with a big fluffy white cat and eye patch.

Justkeepswimming, I packed up some baby stuff to get rid of the other day, and dh said, 'well we might have no.3'!!!! - so be warned, men can get broody too.

Grrl I loved Twin Peaks, had a huge crush on Kyle Maclachlan, and still have nightmares now about Bob. Was very dissapointed that there wasn't another series though.

hazey - we are def planning a no 3, just not yet, want a bigger gap next time & some me/my body time too
thinking of starting to try when ds2 is 2 - that has also been advised by the community midwives if i want to try for a HBAC - which i do atm anyway.

now charlie and lola is all very well, but there obv aren't many programmes as they are repeated far too often.....

had a lovely afternoon in the garden with some friends - clothes off and water play, lovely. shame the good weather isn't here to stay for a while.
tho ds2 isn't so much of a fan of the garden, need to get some of his toys out there.

right, ds2 complaining, think he's tired but he needs to wait up until we go upstairs after 'dubbers'...

big hello girls and thanks so much for your assurances that I am not a total ogre. For the record, she still refuses to rinse today so maybe I'll go with cazwa's advise and miss this but out - would definately be easier!!

JKS I really can imagine that feeling, I mean, if DH is not home for bathtime I feel lonely. I know that the days do go quick, and by wednesday you are in your stride and everything, but still - your mondays are worse than most of us here. I salute you!

Today has been nice, DD2 slept til 6 again and I don;t want to start getting used to is, because you know it'll change into a different phase in no time.

DH s just tidying the kitchen and I am drinking a nice large glass of chilled white wine - mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

You know what? I am so glad that this thread exists because it's amazing how just getting it down on here makes it all more do-able somehow.

Thanks for the welcome! I did it, or rather, we did it! Am waiting for the big come down tomorrow because it all ran rather too smoothly, if you get my drift. Still, it was so nice for OH to come home and be able to tell him we had a lovely day! All helped by the fact that DD2 kindly slept at helpful times like lunchtime and DD1's bedtime...

My pictures should work now, i think!

Aww, cute pics! Bless!

Well done Robino - hope today's going smoothly (should I have said that? Don't want to jinx it?!).

We are trying to use the car less at the moment and there aren't many places to walk around here so we're at home a lot more than we used to be. I've stocked up on playdoh, colouring books, crayons, paper and paint for DD so hopefully that'll keep her going on rainy days!

Those of you with two or more that are mobile, how do you find it when no. 2 can get hold of no. 1's stuff? Some of DDs toys are way too small for DS to be playing with. Doesn't matter yet because he's only 3mo but I'm not sure I've got eyes in the back of my head yet so just wondering!

Awwww, Grrrl Cute! (Must go I'm supposed to be working [slapped wrist emoticon]...)

Hi everyone

I popped on this thread ages ago and although I often read it I don't seem to have time to reply! I've got a DD 2.4yrs and DS is 6.5mths (waves at Jewels)

I'm finding the summer holidays quite dragging, even though they aren't at school all of our clubs have stopped until the schools go back and everywhere just doesn't feel the same! The weather here (Scotland) is just awful as well so no chance for splashing in a wee paddling pool or anything. DD has just had chicken pox and now DS has it, I feel so sorry for him scratching away - does anyone know if Medised still has an antihistamine in it?

Jewels, like a lot of the replies you've had I have also felt just like you did and regretted being too harsh on DD but remind yourself you're HUMAN! (although might be worth me mentioning the dentist told me DD shouldn't rinse after cleaning teeth, just supposed to spit out any excess as doing this keeps a bit of the fluride on the teeth).

Is anyone else in Scotland?

as far as i know, Medised doesn't have an anti hystamine, but you can get Piriton liquid to stop the itching, which can cause drowsiness (which is always handy in poorly toddlers!)

Grrrrl very cute children and they look so cheeky too!

[waves back at loucee] I am scotland too! Have not updated profile yet - oops. I totally understand what you mean regarding the weather - I don;t want to hear my friends in the south saying that are so hot!

And yes knowledgeable ladies of mumsnet you are right - I should not be rinsing DDs teeth, just asking her to spit (though to be honest I'm not sure how successful that would be - I think swallowing the toothpaste is her favourite bit of the whole thing!) but anyway - rinsing is now struck off our teeth cleaning routine so all's there.

I have booked DD2 a doctors appt. She has a rash around her mouth but DD1 got this - was dribble rash we were told because of teething - so I thought nothing of it. But, she has developed it to the outside side of her eyes too so I don't think it can be a dribble rash anymore. I have tried masaging in sudocrem and this makes it better, but it isn't going away and think it's actually getting worse saying that, it does not seem to bother in the slightest - DH thinks it may be exzema but neither me or him has ever it it ourselves...)

DH went to work at 0400 today and thus woke up DD2 by accident. Well, she didnt go back to sleep - did not cry - but sang to herself and snuffled around a bit. Then when she was crying she;d rolled onto her front and was kind of wedged into a corner of the cot. Anyway, I was a very tired mummy today but DH was home by lunchtime so I could sneak in a littiel nap. I had my pilates yoga class tonight but I was just not all there with it - maybe the lack of sleep - so I feel a bit dissappointed as I really look forward to it.

Anyway girls - have a lovely evening

jut spotted this thread - haven't been on mn for ages...

haven't had a chance to read everyones posts but have 2 ds's - 20mths and 8mths, think i must be up there with one of the smallest age gaps!

TG - I thought it didn't (everyone used to tell me how they used Medised over Calpol as the antihistamine caused drowsiness which helped the ill child get the rest... then someone (maybe on here) told me it no longer contained it. HV today said it did but I had doubts (I've got infant paracetomol in the house but didn't want to buy medised just for that reason if it didn't contain it!). DS is too young for piriton, you have to be over 1 to take it.

Re more children Hazey we are similar to JKS in that we would like to TTC again when DS is 2. I have a 22mth age gap and although I am enjoying it I couldn't cope with 3 at home!

Skirmish - what a fantastic age gap, how did you find being pregnant with a young baby as well?

Jewels - where abouts are you? We're near to Hamilton

loucee- it was quite hard, but no worse than working i found. thankfully ds2 is quite content to play on his own so i did get some rest. So much harder now, esp as ds2 is not the happiest of children!

also, calpol night contains an anti-histimine, the same one that medised had/has

Hello again Loucee, and welcome, Skirmish -- you do indeed have a very small age gap there (at 17m between mine, I just can't compete).

I don't know whether to be impressed or fearful of you people talking about (or already having) number 3... I sometimes think about it, but my career would go completely down the pan (not very sympathetic to having kids in my line of work) and so I don't think I'll be going for it in the nearish future and then I'll be too old by far. (DP joked about it the other day though, which is always dangerous... )

Grrrl and Loucee -- hope your DCs get over the chicken pox soon (I know it takes a while).

Awww very cute pics Grrrl - none of you though???

hello skirmish and loucee

Wishing a speedy recovery to those who have dc with chicken pox. I am terrified of mine getting it as i have never had it myself (weird I know!)

Seem to have a bit more time in the evenings now as have managed to get DS2 in bed before 8 the last two nights - whoohoo! He is 11 weeks now, so seems to be settling down a bit, just hope he gets less windy at the magic 12 week mark too.

Better go help DH with the dishes seeing as he did cook dinner too

p.s any tips on how to get 2 dc to bed singlehandedly at the same time????????

Hi again

Doh me, just read further up the thread and realise TG your kids have chicken pox too! My DD had it about 2 wks ago and still has some scabby spots but at 2.4 it isn't really bothering her and as she's a boisterous, fun loving, energetic (you get the picture ) toddler. The GP thought DS would be immune as I'm breastfeeding him and but as it turns out that's not the case. In some ways I'm glad we're getting it over and done with but it's hard seeing my wee one covered in spots and really itchy etc.

Jewels, the Mango sale is fantastic! I couldn't believe the amount of good items they had, usually I find sales a complete waste of time.

Talking of sales, who plans to go to Next this weekend? Any mad hatters here who like to queue up at 5am etc? Not me, I'll take my chances and go along at a more sociable hour.... like 7am

Kaybee, my DH often isn't home until past bedtime so I have the bath and bed time on my own as well. Not entirely sure which method works best but currently I bath DS first whilst DD plays with toys in the bathroom then I feed DS in the bathroom whilst DD has her bath then when she's out and dried and cleaning her teeth I pop DS to bed and then do stories and bed with DD.

Can I join pretty please!!!

My DS is 2.10 and my DD is 24 weeks old. Our house is total chaos!!I am a SAHM although still on mat leave and have not told work I won't be returning!!

Have just read the last few posts ( i apologise for not reading more!) But have heard mutterings of TTC.I have to confess am broody already!!Would love another now!! Does that make me mad??!!

Hi Simpson

No, you're not mad!I feel the same but I am 2 stone overweight which I would like to lose before I become pregnant again and I really would like DD (currently 2.4) to be at school when I have another baby.
I also plan to become a SAHM and will resign in September.

Had an awful night with DS poor soul, he must be so uncomfortable as he's covered in spots