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Help on child bedroom arrangements?

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reynold · 21/04/2024 22:38

Hello everyone, I just want some advice, I have a 5 year old son, 7 year old daughter and 11 year old step son pregnant with another little boy , weve hady step son since he was 5 so he's always classed as my son also. We've recently changed bedrooms two youngest daughter and son have always shared a room , my dd has just turned 7 the council have said both boys need to share as there coming to inspect how small the rooms are to change our needs to bid for a 4 bed instead of 3 which we currently have, I liked my 2 youngest sharing personally. My eldest is very quiet but his behavior has changed massively since highschool , a lot of school calls for behavior etc which is never like him he just doesn't listen and now he certainly doesn't listen to me either, since changing him to share with his brother he's messing up the routines I has with the youngest 2 , ds 5 would be asleep by 8pm school night once the fan sounds are on, eldest goes to sleep at 8.30 due to him being up early to travel to high school , and he will lay in bed and stair at the ceiling till about 11pm he won't try close his eyes or anything , this meaning he's doing silly things in the bunk bed that's waking the youngest up , no matter how much you tell him he continues. I really regret my youngest sharing with him but I don't know what else to do the rooms are tiny I was even considering bringing him in my room with his dad and me but I've got a baby coming in 4 weeks too:/ any suggestions ?

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EatCrow · 22/04/2024 01:00

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I’m not angry. I think you’re pathetic.

Pussygaloregalapagos · 22/04/2024 01:08

ThisLoftyLilacShark · 22/04/2024 00:20

How do you have an 11 year old if you are both 27? And how do you have two 5 year olds?

Perfectly feasible…..

Needanewname42 · 22/04/2024 01:09

I'd put the little kids back in the same room.
When council man comes round put swap the 11yo boys duvet and the girls so it looks like she is in her own room.
Really they can do anything but I don't know where you are but I know where I am councils have very few 4bed houses.

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Pussygaloregalapagos · 22/04/2024 01:11

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Your ancestors were probably immigrants if you go back far enough….

Pussygaloregalapagos · 22/04/2024 01:18

OP you seen lovely! Ignore the haters. Congrats on the baby on the way.

let the kids sleep where they want or what works for you.

Our youngest slept on the sofa for ages and was perfectly fine. Liked being near the kitchen actually.

people from years gone by have lived in a sorts of crowded accommodation.

for the haters… we do kinda need immigrants to work here and pay taxes to fund our big benefits bill! We also need lots of babies born ti grow up and have jobs to help pay for our ageing population that is getting sicker. Immigrants are part of the solution.

SAF55 · 22/04/2024 01:46

Snugglemonkey · 21/04/2024 23:00

You are asking for people's opinions on a public forum. Mine is that you have too many children that you cannot adequately house. That is why you have a bedroom problem.

That’s not what she was asking above on. So why make a judgemental comment? There’s just no need.

kkloo · 22/04/2024 02:55

suki1964 · 21/04/2024 22:56

I understand what you are saying, the council do have rules on same sex sharing and room sizing when it comes to allocation, but you just dont do it and when they come, say the two are in that room etc

Its a box ticking exercise

Exactly this OP.
You just tell the council that they are sharing and just pretend that they are.
You don't actually have to make them share. The council aren't going to come in in the middle of the night to check.

Delphiniumandlupins · 22/04/2024 03:16

ThisLoftyLilacShark · 22/04/2024 00:20

How do you have an 11 year old if you are both 27? And how do you have two 5 year olds?

Presumably the 11 year old stepson was conceived in the usual fashion, lots of 16 year olds are sexually active. The OP has a 5 year old DS and a 7 year old DD.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 22/04/2024 03:32

reynold · 21/04/2024 22:47

@Cbljgdpk because his school was ringing me saying he was falling asleep in lessons and he was walking around looking like a zombie that's why he goes totally sleep then it used to be 10pm but he would be up till 12-1 staring at the ceiling

You could ould you try something a little later like 915 and see how it goes. My 11 year old is usually asleep by 830, but often up at 4/5am.

sashh · 22/04/2024 05:11

Cbljgdpk · 21/04/2024 22:52

Ok but even if they say that 3 children can sleep in one room then they still can’t tell you which children can; you could put your two youngest and the baby when old enough into that room. They can tell you how many rooms you’re eligible for but not how to arrange it. If needed then move the furniture for the day they visit so they can see there isn’t room then move it back

I think the council person is actually trying to help.

You can't (council house rules) have children of the opposite sex sharing once one is 11 (or something). Babies don't count as normally they share with parents.

In the rules for allocating housing a family of any size is three bedrooms. One for boys, one for girls and one for parents.

If you cannot physically fit all the children of the same sex in a room then you are classed as 'overcrowded' and therefore qualify for a larger home.

Eg I'm in a HA property, it has one double and one 'single' bedroom but you could put in bunks or a small double. My property has a maximum occupancy of 4 adults. Children between certain ages count as a half.

So I could, if I was married / in a relationship, have me and partner in one room and two children of the same sex in the other and then a baby in with me and partner.

When the baby hits the age when they become 1/2 an adult then the HA rules mean they would rehouse me in a bigger property.

If the two older children are of the opp osite sex they should not be sharing so again the HA would rehouse me.

HAF1119 · 22/04/2024 05:32

A few questions as I don't know the council housing rules...

If you move yourself to the living room does that lower your overcrowding case when the council visit?

Personally I would put the 2 youngest in room as that worked before - leave furniture in eldest room when the council come - room decor = none of their business. Let them measure up and give their verdict then make your long term decisions after that has been done - if you have a case for overcrowding and being put on list for a 4 bed then you may want to continue with the youngest sharing rather than start spending on a sofa bed/room decor for 3 bedrooms etc

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 22/04/2024 06:29

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A bit if religious intolerance thrown in there now too. OP stated she is Catholic. Catholics cannot use artificial contraception. It is intrinsically evil.

Scarletttulips · 22/04/2024 07:16

Then Catholics will have to earn enough to house their children or abstain. That’s allowed. And it’s free.

I think the tied has turned on many who milk the system - religion or no religion.

Budge up make room and stop complaining.

reynold · 22/04/2024 07:19

@ThisLoftyLilacShark no this has gone off topic because you decided to assume I'm not from here and I'm sponging off the benefit system

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reynold · 22/04/2024 07:20

@Scarletttulips milk the system? What are you talking about? I asked for bedroom advice I'm not carrying on for a new house I'm happy where I am but because I'm going rent to buy I need to have an assessment for the right bedrooms. How's that milking?

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Soontobe60 · 22/04/2024 07:27

OP, for now just put the kids in the beds where you know they will sleep. It doesn’t matter what the rooms are decorated like. FWIW, having bedrooms decorated the way it sounds like you have can be very overstimulating for some children. If you do redecorate, go for calming, neutral colours, not graffiti walls and bold colours.

reynold · 22/04/2024 07:29

@Soontobe60 the bedroom decoration for my eldest is because he asked which he doesn't ask for much and he had a pretty shit childhood up until I got him so I try do what I can as he doesn't ask for nothing. But I'm going to end the argument here and change rooms back to my youngest sharing as this isn't getting anywhere

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sashh · 22/04/2024 07:55

Good grief OP I've just gone back and read some other replies, there are some nasty people on here.

I hope you get a lovely new home you can rent and then buy. You sound like a great person.

reynold · 22/04/2024 09:50

@sashh tHank you so much for your kindness, and I know I'm so confused to why I'm being spoke to like I'm not from this country and don't deserve my children because I asked for advice on bedroom arrangements 😬 thankyou for the message x

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TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 22/04/2024 10:03

reynold · 22/04/2024 07:19

@ThisLoftyLilacShark no this has gone off topic because you decided to assume I'm not from here and I'm sponging off the benefit system

The racist has been banned. Just a shame it took all night!

WithACatLikeTread · 22/04/2024 12:16

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 22/04/2024 06:29

A bit if religious intolerance thrown in there now too. OP stated she is Catholic. Catholics cannot use artificial contraception. It is intrinsically evil.

Of course they can and plenty do. Nobody wants 10 kids.

reynold · 22/04/2024 18:51

@WithACatLikeTread of course some do but I don't

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