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53 replies

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 15:16

This has bugged me so much and I just can’t work it out so wondered if anyone could understand it!

When I split with my ex he had a 3 bed house and as soon as we split he told me he would start renting out the rooms because he “would need to give me money for the children” yet I have never seen any of this money, and as it’s through renting rooms cms can’t touch any of it and it just comes up as he is unemployed/ no maintenance. He has never once paid anything towards the children from renting his rooms out which is what he claimed the purpose of it was. However due to this it’s also meant that he has never not once had our children overnight or at his house since we split because he’s “renting out his rooms so no space/ not appropriate.”

Why would someone deliberately create a situation where they are unable to have their children at their house or overnight? It means he also barely sees them because he has nowhere to take them and he doesn’t fancy hanging around on the street with them or paying for expensive days out every time he sees them. Of course anyone could guess it would be difficult to have nowhere to take your children. He doesn’t drive so talking them around isn’t easy and most separated parents have their children in their home. So why would he intentionally do this? He isn’t claiming he doesn’t want to see them before anyone suggests that’s the reason he claims to be desperate to see them and desperate to be a father but can’t because he “has nowhere to take them” so why would he create this situation that is his own doing? At first I thought it would be temporary but it’s 7 years now and he is still doing it with no plans to change things.

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Trinity69 · 25/02/2024 15:19

Because he doesn’t want to pay you for them and he actually has no interest in being a Dad to them. He’s put himself in a situation where he always has a reason not to have them, but at the same time tries to convince you it’s not really his fault.

MississippiAF · 25/02/2024 15:20

Because he’s not interested. Probably never was, just went along with it

theduchessofspork · 25/02/2024 15:20

I think it’s because he’s a pillock?

Why don’t you take him to court for maintenance? I presume at the moment the rental income means he doesn’t have to work so CBA to.

I am sorry OP, I hope things are otherwise ok for you.

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Hatty65 · 25/02/2024 15:23

He's no interest in them. It's been 7 years? Cut contact with him entirely. He's a shit father, and bringing nothing into their lives.

Mumofteenandtween · 25/02/2024 15:24

Because he would rather have the money than spend time with his children.

Galeforcewindatmywindow · 25/02/2024 15:25

Cms don't care but hmrc might....

Illpickthatup · 25/02/2024 15:29

He can claim whatever he wants but actions speak louder than words. He's neither seeing or paying for his children. It's because he doesn't want to but obviously won't say that out loud.

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 15:35

No they won’t care and I will not be taking him to court (not even sure that’s a thing) for maintenance as I have no proof without proof it is considered hearsay, you need evidence which I don’t have he admits it verbally and I’ve witnessed it myself but I don’t have any actual evidence of it happening and he denies it in messages. He is unemployed.

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Doyoumind · 25/02/2024 15:46

He doesn't want to spend time with or pay for his DC. That's quite clear.

Does he even have permission to sublet? I doubt it.

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 15:46

He’s not subletting, he lives there.

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Porfirio · 25/02/2024 15:49

I imagine he would like to walk away completely but worries that family and friends would see him in a bad light so it's easier to make it impossible and give the lame excuse of 'I'd love to but I can't ...'

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 15:51

He doesn’t have any family and I don’t really know any of his friends so I doubt it’s that. I’m not even sure his friends even remember he has kids since he never takes them there/they never see them! He only comes down here to see them.

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StealthMama · 25/02/2024 16:18

Report him to HMRC and let them investigate his income from a tax perspective. If the money from rent is going into a bank account they'll find t. Then you can go back to CMs.

Have you applied through CMs anyway?

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 16:21

Yes he is unemployed so no maintenance payable / £7 per week. I’m not bothered by the maintenance as much more why he would rent out his rooms meaning he can’t have the children yet claims to want to see them

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dottiedodah · 25/02/2024 17:20

Sadly he doesnt seem interested really.Its his loss as no doubt when they grow up he will be lamenting the "loss of his DC" or such like .Seems bad he wont even pay any upkeep with 3 rooms rented out!

Doyoumind · 25/02/2024 17:36

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 15:46

He’s not subletting, he lives there.

It's still subletting even if he lives there and he would need permission from the landlord, unless he's the owner rather than a tenant.

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 17:39

He’s not subletting he is allowed lodgers and he is allowed to rent out his rooms.

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RandomMess · 25/02/2024 17:41

There is a limit to lodger income before you pay tax on it though.

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 17:42

Yes I’m aware of that as I said I have no evidence though and they don’t go off hearsay.

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 25/02/2024 17:47

He’s lying about wanting to see the children, he doesn’t want to admit to you, and probably himself, that he’s decided not to have a relationship with his kids. Perhaps when they are older teens and easier to spend time with he’ll suddenly decide he wants to be a dad. it will then officially be your fault they don’t want to spent any time with him because you turned them against him.

tribpot · 25/02/2024 17:48

It's for the sob story, surely? "I have to let out all the rooms in my house to meet @TheMushroomFamily 's demands for child support and yet ironically that means I can never see my own children, it's all so unfair, society so skewed in women's favour [etc etc etc]"

He doesn't want to see them. And after this amount of time of no contact I would assume they don't even know him / wouldn't want to spend time with him. So why not just cut contact with him?

TwylaSands · 25/02/2024 17:51

Why would someone deliberately create a situation where they are unable to have their children at their house or overnight?

Youve answered your own question. He doesnt want to see them. He doesnt want to contribute to their upbringing. He doesnt want children.

i wouldnt be at all quiet about this.

Bunnyhair · 25/02/2024 17:51

He does this because he doesn’t give a shit about his children, I’m afraid 🤷‍♀️ He’s not even bothering to pretend, really.

TwylaSands · 25/02/2024 17:52

TheMushroomFamily · 25/02/2024 16:21

Yes he is unemployed so no maintenance payable / £7 per week. I’m not bothered by the maintenance as much more why he would rent out his rooms meaning he can’t have the children yet claims to want to see them

I hope you are still claiming the £7 a week from this arsehole.

Meadowfinch · 25/02/2024 17:59

Because he's a mean lazy selfish pig who has found a way that he can not work, pay no tax or child maintenance, yet have an income but can never be expected to have his children.
Basically he's a worthless piece of shit as a father.

At least your dcs won't have the chance to learn his shabby values.