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Homeopathic treatments

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YoungerHeart · 13/12/2023 19:42

Has anyone used homeopathic treatments for their toddlers/children?

I've had my son at the doctor multiple times over the last few months due to ongoing sinus issues and a constant blocked nose. I'm getting no way with them because of his age they keep saying there isn't much they can give him.

I spoke to another health professional who said her son saw a homeopath for a similar issue as a teenager and it worked wonders.

Just wondering how safe it is?

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donquixotedelamancha · 14/12/2023 07:00

morechaimama · 13/12/2023 20:06

Hello @YoungerHeart my family have used homoeopathic remedies successfully for many years, and generations, to treat us and our pets. A useful first stop would be Helios Homoeopathy online - they have first aid kits which will include several options for sinus problems - or you might prefer to find a local practitioner through the register, again that's online.

It is completely safe and can be extremely effective, so please ignore the naysayers and give it a try - a great many "normal" doctors now use Homoeopathy as complementary to standard medicine, with excellent results.

You could make a fortune and become famous if you could prove it works. You would advance scientific understanding considerably because everyone else who has ever tested it has found nothing.

It would be wrong of you not to share your incredible healing powers with the world and testing it, against say water, would be easy.

notmorezoom · 14/12/2023 07:03

Jellykat · 13/12/2023 22:01

Predictable.. i knew someone would be on to try cause a row @Irresponsibly..
Am not interested in links tbh, i speak from personal experience, its worked for me (for whatever reason) in some pretty serious situations.. and thats that.

It has a placebo and counselling effect, but the actual medicine did nothing for you

notmorezoom · 14/12/2023 07:04

YoungerHeart · 14/12/2023 06:44

Thanks all!

I just wanted to check as I've never used it before and didn't know if it was similar to herbal medicine.

It doesn't have the effects or side effects of herbal medicine. It's just water

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BlueberryVelvet · 14/12/2023 07:06

Scirocco · 13/12/2023 20:34

Homeopathy is a scam. Zero evidence base and for it to work the basic laws underpinning the integrity of the universe as we understand it would have to be broken.

The French government doesn’t think so, it’s part of the public health system.

Any doctor can prescribe it if they want.

Try it OP.

Orangello · 14/12/2023 07:19

The French government doesn’t think so, it’s part of the public health system.

French social security does not cover homeopathy since 1st of Janaury 2021. They said: "Based on all the medical and scientific data available, the HAS highlighted that these drugs had neither demonstrated their effectiveness in the conditions for which data are available, nor demonstrated their interest for public health, particularly in reducing the consumption of other medications."

Scirocco · 14/12/2023 09:23

Jellykat · 13/12/2023 22:01

Predictable.. i knew someone would be on to try cause a row @Irresponsibly..
Am not interested in links tbh, i speak from personal experience, its worked for me (for whatever reason) in some pretty serious situations.. and thats that.

By "I'm not interested in links", I'm guessing you mean "I'm not interested in actual scientific research and data because it doesn't say what I want to hear".

It's fine to say something caused you to feel a bit happier and gave a nice placebo effect, but that doesn't mean there's any scientific basis for its pretended mechanisms of action.

Scirocco · 14/12/2023 09:27

BlueberryVelvet · 14/12/2023 07:06

The French government doesn’t think so, it’s part of the public health system.

Any doctor can prescribe it if they want.

Try it OP.

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The French government is entitled to decide to do that if they want. Their preferences don't override scientific reality.

The real harm of homeopathy is that people may choose sugar water over actual treatment for serious health issues.

DialMforMummy · 14/12/2023 09:28

My mum (a doctor) always used to say" if homeopathy was effective, why isn't there an homeopathic contraceptive pill?"

Orangello · 14/12/2023 09:56

The French government is entitled to decide to do that if they want. Their preferences don't override scientific reality.

Crossposted but as you see above, also the French government has decided that it doesn't work.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 14/12/2023 10:20

You’ve had the predictable responses and tbf, I can understand them.

I find it works very well for us and not just as a placebo (though I wouldn’t dismiss this as worthless and it operates just as much for the success of conventional medical treatments of course) as it works on babies and animals, who don’t know they’re taking anything.

The downside of it is it’s often hard to work out for yourself the precise remedy needed and so you need a good homeopath. It’s absolutely mind blowing how it can sort out issues impervious to standard medicine (or ignored by it) at times. It sorted out my severe hand eczema, when all the dermatologists could offer was steroids that damaged the skin and left me dependent, so that if I stopped, the eczema returned with a vengeance. After a few weeks of homeopathic treatment it went and hasn’t returned in years. My IBS has gone. A sprained ankle healed in 3 days. DD8 has never needed antibiotics. If you have the funds to pay for a consultation, why not give it a go?

Twizzletoe · 14/12/2023 10:30

Have a google of the 10:23 campaign that staged several protests. Used one of “the strongest” homeopathic remedies in a very interesting way.
It is indeed a placebo using water. I use Neilmed rinses and they do have a paediatric version I believe. This would be a much more effective use of the water - this one is even salty!

ChateauMargaux · 14/12/2023 10:31

You can message me if you want to ask any questions.. I would be happy to chat. I have used homeopathy in many situations over the years. It doesn't have all the answers, it can be difficult to match the right remedy and sometimes conventional medicine is required but all medical intervention has side effects so for recurring issues, finding a non invasive approach that reduces the intensity of symptoms and frequency of reoccurrence without side effects might be preferable.

hamstersarse · 14/12/2023 10:38

SSRI's are no more effective than placebo yet no-one on MN has a problem with people downing them.

I know nothing of homeopathy, but it does seem to get a strange rap considering there are many many drugs taken by many many people that are ineffective, and occasionally actually harmful, unlike homoepathy.

Try it OP, even if you get placebo, there will be no harm done, unlike many pharmaceutical drugs

Orangello · 14/12/2023 11:34

as it works on babies and animals, who don’t know they’re taking anything.

Placebo effect in babies and animals is very much a thing. It's called caregiver placebo. Just like all the people swearing amber necklace cured their babies teething problems.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 14/12/2023 12:18

Orangello · 14/12/2023 11:34

as it works on babies and animals, who don’t know they’re taking anything.

Placebo effect in babies and animals is very much a thing. It's called caregiver placebo. Just like all the people swearing amber necklace cured their babies teething problems.

I wasn’t walking about an effect the carer perceives. Or that the baby gets from feeling cared for. I was talking about a wild animal that had been completely furless from waist down, with sores and unwell from mange, recovering and the fur growing back over a few weeks. Mange like that kills without treatment. It’s a serious condition.

I get where you’re coming from. It shouldn’t work. But in my experience it does, even though I can’t explain why. BBut I’m very very grateful it does, as it does so without any unpleasant side effects, by and large, and I don’t have to wait months to access it or for it to be refused.

Superscientist · 14/12/2023 14:07

YoungerHeart · 13/12/2023 19:42

Has anyone used homeopathic treatments for their toddlers/children?

I've had my son at the doctor multiple times over the last few months due to ongoing sinus issues and a constant blocked nose. I'm getting no way with them because of his age they keep saying there isn't much they can give him.

I spoke to another health professional who said her son saw a homeopath for a similar issue as a teenager and it worked wonders.

Just wondering how safe it is?

My partner has long standing sinus issues he finds sinus flushes helpful when has a cold, hot shower or sitting with steam and facial massages helpful. My mum has done body massage courses so I picked up some of the method off her and the rest off YouTube. You do need to be care to push the sinuses in the right direction but the combination of sinus flushes and massages are the things that help him them most as well as trying to stay well hydrated.

G5000 · 14/12/2023 19:40

But in my experience it does, even though I can’t explain why.

Vis medicatrix naturae. Or placebo effect.

HermioneWeasley · 14/12/2023 20:31

ChateauMargaux · 14/12/2023 10:31

You can message me if you want to ask any questions.. I would be happy to chat. I have used homeopathy in many situations over the years. It doesn't have all the answers, it can be difficult to match the right remedy and sometimes conventional medicine is required but all medical intervention has side effects so for recurring issues, finding a non invasive approach that reduces the intensity of symptoms and frequency of reoccurrence without side effects might be preferable.

In other words you take so long finding the “right” treatment, that the condition cleared up by itself but its attributed to finally finding the “correct” homeopathic “remedy”.

ChateauMargaux · 14/12/2023 21:46

@HermioneWeasley ... I said it can be difficult to find the right remedy but sometimes, it is very easy and the response is immediate... but you are unlikely to be convinced..

Onionsmadeofglass · 14/12/2023 21:49

BlueberryVelvet · 14/12/2023 07:06

The French government doesn’t think so, it’s part of the public health system.

Any doctor can prescribe it if they want.

Try it OP.

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It got defunded in France back in about 2018

Onionsmadeofglass · 14/12/2023 21:53

The thing I don’t get about homeopathy is, why, when the whole theory behind it hinges on water having memory of things that used to be in it, do they sell it at little dried sugar pills? If the remedy is in the water then why sell dry pills? Surely the benefits would evaporate with the water?

notmorezoom · 14/12/2023 22:50

Onionsmadeofglass · 14/12/2023 21:53

The thing I don’t get about homeopathy is, why, when the whole theory behind it hinges on water having memory of things that used to be in it, do they sell it at little dried sugar pills? If the remedy is in the water then why sell dry pills? Surely the benefits would evaporate with the water?

and how about the water having the memory of all the unsavoury things it has met in the pipes at the water treatment centre? Or is the magical water memory selective.

Honestly, I do despair sometimes. Grown adults believing in this nonsense. No wonder there are so many successful scammers in the world. Would anyone on here like to let me use their bank account to rest £15,000,000 - I'll give you 5% - just need all your bank details, NI number, DOB, mother's maiden name...........

Onionsmadeofglass · 14/12/2023 23:21

notmorezoom · 14/12/2023 22:50

and how about the water having the memory of all the unsavoury things it has met in the pipes at the water treatment centre? Or is the magical water memory selective.

Honestly, I do despair sometimes. Grown adults believing in this nonsense. No wonder there are so many successful scammers in the world. Would anyone on here like to let me use their bank account to rest £15,000,000 - I'll give you 5% - just need all your bank details, NI number, DOB, mother's maiden name...........

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The water has to be magically tapped on a leather cushion or something to activate the memory. Obviously.
I also quite like looking up what goes into the remedies. It’s a good thing there’s none left by the time the remedy is diluted 300 times, some of them are really poisonous or just sound gross.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 14/12/2023 23:36

G5000 · 14/12/2023 19:40

But in my experience it does, even though I can’t explain why.

Vis medicatrix naturae. Or placebo effect.

If you read my post again, you’ll see why I don’t buy the idea it’s all a placebo. Placebo is definitely a thing, and can be as high as 70%. It’s really useful, including for conventional medicine. SSRIs are a great example of this. Most of them show efficacy rates not much above placebo, if at all. Their efficacy has been declining over the years. Presumably because to begin with they were hailed as the second coming when it comes to treatment for depression, and by now they’ve been around long enough for the halo effect to have worn off and people know many users get no benefit, yet are assailed by significant side effects.

I don’t see how a placebo can operate on a squirrel or fox and lead to fur growing back that had been entirely missing from half their body, and a sarcoptic mange parasitic infection being eradicated - an infection that can be tricky to conquer with the strongest meds in the veterinary medicine chest, in well-nourished pets living in a warm, dry home. However, I’m sure that those convinced that homeopathy cannot possibly work will have an answer, no matter how much of a stretch is required. Luckily nobody is forced to use homeopathy if they don’t wish to. I hope they find conventional medicine is able to fully cure their medical ailments. I don’t find it does and I want a cure and for the illness to go away, not to be ‘treated’ indefinitely with medication that brings its own issues and symptoms.

ditalini · 14/12/2023 23:49

One of the amazing things about homeopathy is that is definitely works, but as soon as it's studied in a controlled, properly blinded experiment it doesn't.

Magic.