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Is this spiteful?

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Rosemarysbabe · 05/11/2023 17:57

My Dd (7) hates to stay away from home, on the run up to the visits with dad and new gf she gets really tearful and anxious. She is waiting to be assessed for asd/adhd and really struggles regulating her emotions. She went to visit them yesterday with the plan being she would stay, and as always while they were out in the evening she becomes inconsolable and wants to return home. As they live some distance away her things were left at their house, including (most importantly) her bunny that she’s had since she was newborn. She takes it everywhere and she relies on it if she’s anxious or upset, like a comfort blanket. He won’t be seeing her for 2 weeks but refuses to let her have it back even though he will be local next week, as he believes there needs to be consequences to her not wanting to stay with him. In his words ‘she needs a kick up the arse’. It just feels really cruel when he knows she will say ‘where’s bunny’ if she gets upset, which often happens because of what we believe is her additional needs. He also has no understanding that she may not be neurotypical, so she thinks or acts a little differently. I don’t know how to handle this at all. He was very emotionally abusive when we were together, and I feel like he’s starting to be like that with her. I’m also annoyed that he kept saying ‘we decided’ regarding his gf. She is not my daughters parent, so shouldn’t be getting involved in parenting decisions imo. Any advice welcomed x

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Tryingtoconceivenumber2 · 05/11/2023 20:21

Ah I feel so much for you. My 3 year is neurotypical and would be absolutely beside herself not to have her beloved bunny for 2 weeks. I really hope he brings it back for her. What an absolutely awful person he is xx

SarahAndQuack · 05/11/2023 20:45

Have you had any legal advice? I am much earlier in this process than you, and my partner isn't such an overt jerk, but I had 15 minutes of free advice and I was so impressed by how helpful it was (I assumed they'd waffle for 15 minutes then try to charge you). One key thing I came away with is that there are lots of less stressful and less expensive stages before you get to court.

His behaviour is absolutely horrible.

I also agree with a PP that it's not unusual for a child of that age to need a comfort toy. Obviously it's concerning that he's unable to understand his daughter may have asd/adhd. But any child of that age might easily feel very upset to be separated from a special comfort object, especially in the context of a separation.

Ibravedaflood · 05/11/2023 20:50

Send him a text telling him dd is happy with her new bunny. Send stock pic. Bet he drops it off next week.
Personally I would just block his number for now... Or maybe for good.

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ilovemyspace · 05/11/2023 20:51

@Rosemarysbabe No, but I will be stopping it now, if he wants to take me to court then do be

You're the parent who stands between your daughter and what harms her - it's not easy for you, but well done. And it's so very well done!! You're doing what's needed to protect her and keep her safe. Take strength and know that it's the right thing to do

Nitsnitsnits · 05/11/2023 20:52

He sounds like he has some narcissistic tendencies. That would mean that if he feels someone isn’t behaving in a loving way to him - and his daughter wanting to go back to her mum would count as this in his mind - he then does not feel love towards her, and would feel a strong drive to punish her for her behaviour as he sees it. Narcissists can struggle to feel unconditional love even with their children. He does not sound like a safe place for your child. I’m so sorry, OP, this is such a difficult situation to be in. I would be getting some advice asap from any source - free legal advice, citizens advice, health visitor, children’s centre, your daughters school. You need to find out what it will take to minimise his time with her and ideally to have supervised contact only. He sounds like a very damaging person to have a relationship with, either as a partner or a parent, and after going through this it’s natural to “freeze” around him - you probably learnt to tiptoe around him to try to avoid triggering his abusive side. It takes a long time to heal - your GP might be able to help if you haven’t already addressed the damage he did.

LittleGreenDragons · 05/11/2023 21:00

If the relationship with gf is already rocky then perhaps approach her for the toy? It might give her the final reason to leave too.

Then never send anything that is important or expensive or irreplaceable to his house again. I think DD is old enough to understand that if she loves bunny that much he needs to stay at your home. No day trips allowed. No daddy sleepovers allowed. No show/tell at school allowed. Bunny needs a proxy friend to go on his behalf, a friend she's fine with the possibility of losing.

Hope bunny is returned soon.

ilovemyspace · 05/11/2023 21:31

@Nitsnitsnits He sounds like he has some narcissistic tendencies. That would mean that if he feels someone isn’t behaving in a loving way to him - and his daughter wanting to go back to her mum would count as this in his mind - he then does not feel love towards her, and would feel a strong drive to punish her for her behaviour as he sees it. Narcissists can struggle to feel unconditional love even with their children. He does not sound like a safe place for your child. I’m so sorry, OP, this is such a difficult situation to be in. I would be getting some advice asap from any source - free legal advice, citizens advice, health visitor, children’s centre, your daughters school. You need to find out what it will take to minimise his time with her and ideally to have supervised contact only. He sounds like a very damaging person to have a relationship with, either as a partner or a parent, and after going through this it’s natural to “freeze” around him - you probably learnt to tiptoe around him to try to avoid triggering his abusive side. It takes a long time to heal - your GP might be able to help if you haven’t already addressed the damage he did.

He sounds like he has some narcissistic tendencies.

Or it could just be that he doesn't know how to deal with a 7 year old?
Or just doesn't have the patience to deal with a 7 year old?
Neither of these is a crime in itself!

BUT locking her out of the house is an issue. And it needs addressing.

He may be a narcissist - but how do you know?
Don't just assume facts because of your personal experience.

You may be right in your advice - and only the OP can say

Namerequired · 05/11/2023 22:39

I don’t usually swear but every swear word is coming out of my mouth right now. Go and collect it. Bang on his door. Does he have neighbours? Show him up. Tell them all what he is.
And never send your daughter there again. If he bothers to take it to court then make sure they know how cruel he is. Ask it to be put in that he is made take some courses in nd and educate himself. This is no less abusive than slapping her. Actually I’m pretty sure my 8yr old nd child would prefer to be slapped than be without his comfort toy. It’s mean and cruel.

Rosemarysbabe · 06/11/2023 07:35

I will have to go and get it. I’m on nights so it’s finding the time between work sleep and school runs. I don’t want to take her with me to see the drama unfold. He is going to be 5 minutes away this weekend but has told me he won’t bring it, I have to go to his to collect it in his words ‘if I answer the door you can have it’ im so tired of his nonsense

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Rosemarysbabe · 06/11/2023 07:37

She seems as bad as him with regards to my dd, she bought her some stationary while they were at the shops then returned it for a refund because she wanted to go home. Obviously a good match

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Chowtime · 06/11/2023 08:22

Rosemarysbabe · 06/11/2023 07:37

She seems as bad as him with regards to my dd, she bought her some stationary while they were at the shops then returned it for a refund because she wanted to go home. Obviously a good match

What? In front of her?

Rosemarysbabe · 06/11/2023 09:18

Yes. My mum says it’s reverse bribery. Because they didn’t get the outcome they wanted they withdrew the ‘bribe’

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Neodymium · 06/11/2023 20:36

I wouldn’t send bunny to his place anymore. Seems like he’s just making things worse for himself, next time when she refuses to stay over cause bunny isn’t there it will be your fault for not sending bunny. Where did you originally get bunny? You may be able to look online and find another to leave at his place, lots of people sell stuff on marketplace and there is special groups for toys and stuff. If you posted a photo they would know what brand ect.

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