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DS(8) lonely at school lunch times

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SidonieBaker · 18/10/2023 21:41

My DS is 8, year 3 - he says he enjoys school apart from lunch times, when he's really lonely as no one wants to play with him Sad

We had a long chat this evening as it's parents evening tomorrow, and I asked if there was anything he thought Miss Smith (teacher - not her real name!) would tell me about him, or if there was anything he wanted me to talk to her about... he said the other boys in his class won't let him play with them at lunch time, they push him away and he ends up wandering around on his own. For context: his class is mostly girls (who he doesn't want to play with!), the boys are heavily into football (which he isn't!), and I'm not sure if 'pushing him away' is strictly accurate or if they just don't let him join in... but either way, it's making him hate school.

Could anyone suggest anything I can do to help? I believe the school did have a buddy bench but it isn't used now (I've already suggested it to him), and there aren't any lunch time clubs he could join, as something like a computing/ Lego/ drawing club would have been ideal for him. At a push I could collect him and take him home for an hour to have lunch there, but I don't think school encourage (allow?!) that any more. It's just such a shame that it's colouring his entire experience, and I'm not even sure what the teacher could do to help; I know they have lessons about 'being kind', 'playing nicely' etc, but I imagine these boys just don't want him to join in because he isn't actually very good at football, and presumably no one can make them include him...

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SidonieBaker · 02/11/2023 00:34

Thank you SO much to everyone for your responses - it's really appreciated Smile

You'll be pleased to hear that I did speak to the teacher @Motheranddaughtertotwo , she was lovely - said she had absolutely no idea that he wasn't always happy at lunch time, and told DS that he could always find her or a dinner lady in the playground if he needed help or company. He was reassured by that but things haven't been great since half term, the boy he thought was his best friend doesn't want DS to play football at all with him any more, and has started physically pushing him away Sad

I wasn't keen on this boy before TBH as he seemed to blow hot and cold and DS never knew where he stood, but they always got on fine - maybe it's because this boy (let's call him Alfie) is really keen on football and knows DS isn't (and yes @Puffalicious, his dad is mad keen as well and very pushy!). DS's birthday is in September, he's had two parties (2021 and 2022) both of which Alfie came to; Alfie's birthday is in December, he told DS that he 'forgot' to invite him to the 2021 party, and I found out over half term that Alfie had a birthday party last year as well which he didn't invite DS to Sad I know that Alfie didn't have to invite DS, but it just seems so mean spirited not to invite him to a (quite large!) party when DS always invited Alfie.

@OhsoNat DS's teacher did say that the school were thinking of offering different sports at lunch time, I think it's just dependent on them having someone available to supervise, which they don't always! @Cashew22 he would prefer to play something like basketball or dodgeball if he has to be outside, but there's no option to do that, it's football or nothing...

@Victoria3010 I've tried DS at casual football clubs but he's just not interested! I offered for him to join the local club as that would give him a social circle but he was even less interested such a shame as I think that would help, but it's just not his thing, which is fine. @mollyfolk I asked DS again about the two other boys who don't like football, but he thinks (rightly or wrongly) that they're very much a pair and don't want him to join in.

@Findinganewme there are a couple of boys which DS has met through other interests who he'd like to hang out with, but either I haven't heard back from the parents, or it gets too tricky to coordinate it between schedules... then it turns into a chore and I feel bad that DS doesn't see other people, but from what you've said it may not always be worth the effort anyway!

DS would love to take his Pokemon cards every day @msmatcha but school only allow it once a fortnight! I guess maybe the novelty would wear off anyway if he could take them all the time?!

@Isthiscorrect unfortunately the school don't have a librarian, I'm guessing they just don't have the funds; they have a couple of volunteers who go in every so often to help out in the library, listen to the children read etc, but no permanent librarian. @missjonesy DS would absolutely adore going to a Lego club or similar but again, there's just not the opportunity, if there was a librarian he could perhaps have sat in there but the library isn't open at lunch time. I can completely understand about your school's lack of capacity @PutWoodInHoleDuck as ours is similar, they can't run many lunch time clubs as they have the minimum of staff, and after school clubs are run by separate companies and are usually chargeable.

I did feel a lot better after the chat with the teacher (as did DS) but we seem to have taken a step backwards after half term... sigh! DS is back to dreading break times. I may well suggest something similar to the nurture club @JaneFarrier as perhaps school could instigate that for minimum cost!

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sashh · 02/11/2023 02:54

StamppotAndGravy · 19/10/2023 15:11

I learnt to juggle in the playground when I had no one to play with after my best friend left. I ended up with a little group of mostly boy juggling friends who didn't like football either

I was just about to suggest juggling or magic tricks. Something to keep him busy while he is learning / practicing and something 'cool' he can teach others.

A trick yoyo, a diablo or juggling set.

Maybe not the fire poi, not at primary.

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SidonieBaker · 05/11/2023 23:57

I'll have to think of something @sashh as lunch times are really making DS miserable Sad he doesn't even want to spend time near Alfie now. I asked one of the dinner ladies if there was anything else for the kids to do at lunch time, especially now the weather's getting miserable, but she said not sadly - the hall doubles as the dining room so there's no room for indoor games etc. Might have to have another chat with his teacher!

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sashh · 06/11/2023 04:43

@SidonieBaker poor thing.

IF he does like the idea of magic then some 'gimmicked' cards are not expensive. Svengali and stripper decks are easy to use. My carer does some magic and spends hours practicing different ways to shuffle and cut cards.

The book, "the royal road to card magic" is the kind of book all professional magicians have used when they were starting out.

Could the teacher have him do some errands, preferably with another child, things like sharpening pencils, putting up pictures, emptying the bin.

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