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Am I being a food snob?

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Haventaclue2 · 17/07/2023 16:44

Hi,

DD is starting school in September and I have been sent the menus to chose her first months worth of lunches.

There are two jacket potato options, a meat dish and a veggie dish. There seems to be the same 6-7 meals: burger & potato cubes, pizza & potato cubes, lasagna, fish and chips, tomato pasta & garlic bread etc. Desserts are a cookie, ice-cream, yoghurt, chocolate mouse...

The veggie options sometimes include some veg but I was expecting more fruit and veg in general, some days there is no fruit or veg at all and mainly carbs? I expected some peas on the side or an apple for example?

I always planned for her to have a hot meal at lunch as mum friends have always said how expensive and a faff packed lunches are and most of it can left anyway where as at least she'll probably eat all of the hot meal?

Am I being a terrible snob? 😳

Obviously its only one meal a day so its not going to do her any harm but the food at her nursery is so different it just came as a surprise?

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Allwelcone · 18/07/2023 17:40

Im probably a food snob but I put my money where my mouth was and made 3 daily packed lunches for years. Still do them sometimes even now they're in secondary, the food doesn't get amy better.

AuntMarch · 18/07/2023 17:46

Peony654 · 18/07/2023 09:43

I’m with you, that sounds very unhealthy. And they definitely shouldn’t have a dessert like that every day, totally unnecessary.

..and they wouldn't allow it in a packed lunch in most schools!

LanaL · 18/07/2023 17:47

I wouldn’t worry! I’m a supply teacher so I’m in different primary schools most days and I’ve never seen one that doesn’t have a salad counter and veg with the food. I just think they don’t list it on the menus . My sons school don’t but there is always fruit , veg and salad available x

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SarahAndQuack · 18/07/2023 17:49

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/07/2023 17:04

No, you don't have to eat it cold - unless you wanted to.

You pack hot food in something like these. They're great! My mum packed soups etc in similar for me when I was a child.

https://thermos.com/

I can't imagine doing that with a 5 year old! But each to their own, I guess.

mumofteenss · 18/07/2023 17:57

My kids primary school always had a veg side, plus a salad and a fruit and yogurts "bar" they could self serve from. So whilst menus didnt sound great, there was always healthy choices on offer alongside.

ActDottie · 18/07/2023 17:59

sounds ok to me

a lot of those meals you’ve listed can be packed with veggies and they have to make it appealing to those who are fussier and perhaps don’t eat so healthily at home

Sunshineandflipflops · 18/07/2023 18:03

I was working in a primary school recently and was given a school lunch. I couldn’t eat it. It was roast pork, but you could have broken a window (or tooth) with the pork and the couple of potatoes and veg were poorly cooked and tasted horrible. I am not a food snob and not at all picky so for me to leave it says something.

My dc are older and never really had free school lunches but always opted for packed lunches anyway and I can see why!
I don’t mind making a packed lunch and I at least knew what they were eating and they had some input into it.

BalletBob · 18/07/2023 18:09

Yeah it’s crap but this is what happens when school meals are contracted out to private firms. Just another money grab.

Ap42 · 18/07/2023 18:11

School meals are generally vile. Both of mine are entitled to fsm but won't touch them. They have packed lunch, I'm at least in control of what is in their lunches then. I aim for 3/4 of their 5 a day in their packed lunch boxes, normally cucumber, tomatoes, grapes and a banana. I don't really feel the cost as I've always done it.

itsmyp4rty · 18/07/2023 18:11

School dinners have just become a pile of cheap processed junk IME It was covid that did it at ds's school, it was a bit better before. He only has it once a week it's so poor.

itsmyp4rty · 18/07/2023 18:11

ActDottie · 18/07/2023 17:59

sounds ok to me

a lot of those meals you’ve listed can be packed with veggies and they have to make it appealing to those who are fussier and perhaps don’t eat so healthily at home

Yeah they're not though because they're made as cheaply as possible.

CombatBarbie · 18/07/2023 18:15

Our menu rotates every term, always soup for starters too however if youre not satisfied you can always send a pack up.

My dd despises fish.... Even in batter from the chip shop, but has the school fish n chips every Friday.

thatsnotmylifeitstoocrazy · 18/07/2023 18:16

There will probably be a salad bar too, school meals are rubbish.

Ruth98 · 18/07/2023 18:19

At my children's school veg is packed into just about everything. Brownies are packed full of grated beetroot for example. Pizza base has grated carrot inside it. Also free fruit and veg every break time. The focus is on filling them up for the afternoon. It's free food as well (unlike nursery) so if you aren't happy with it you can always send them with a packed lunch...

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/07/2023 18:22

Incredibly short-sighted policy when you think how important good nutrition is for health and how much of a ticking time bomb obesity is for the NHS. Here's an article (which I think might be from a few years ago) about French school meals.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/karen-le-billion-french-children-eat-anything

This is part of it.

Karen Le Billon moved with her young family from Vancouver to France in 2008, what came next was a transformation in how her children ate and behaved around meal times. We find out about the trials and tribulations of their journey...
What were your children’s original attitudes to food?
My kids had the standard ‘bland, beige food’ diet: a lot of processed carbs (white bread, crackers) and dairy. My older daughter was quite reactive; I talk in the book about her ‘strange food dance’: she would wriggle, jump up and down, and display all sorts of antics when confronted with a food she didn’t like (which included sandwiches and ice cream!).

What was the biggest culture shock for your family when you first moved to France from North America?
How long children sat at the table, how well behaved the children were at the table, how easily and cheerfully they tried new foods, and how long they could wait between meals—without complaint. Basically, they ate like French adults – even the preschoolers.
How did your children’s school lunches differ after the move?
French school lunches are simply amazing. The French have decided that teaching healthy eating routines to children is a priority, and they teach children about healthy food in the classroom and the lunchroom.

Starting when children enter school at age three, school lunch consists of four courses: a vegetable starter (for example, grated carrot salad, or beet salad), a warm main course served with a side of grains or vegetables, cheese, and dessert.

Fresh baguette, eaten plain, is also served. The kids drink water (there are no other drinks of any kind available at lunch, and there is a national ban on vending machines and junk food in all French schools). Dessert is usually fresh fruit, but a sweet treat is often served once a week.
There is only one choice on the menu, and food is served to children at the table until they are finished primary school (at 12 years old). This may be why the place where lunch is eaten is called a ‘restaurant scolaire‘ (school restaurant). High-school students typically get two choices for each course and often eat in a ‘self’ (meaning a self-serve cafeteria), although many French parents are ambivalent about this self-service model (preferring the idea of a restaurant).
The French Ministry of National Education sets a minimum time requirement for children to sit at the table: 30 minutes. This is in order to allow them eat their food sufficiently slowly and properly. Talk about ‘slow food’ training!
What were your children’s biggest challenges with adjusting to the French way of eating?
The elimination of random snacking was a big challenge. They were used to asking for, and getting, food when they wanted it. But when I realised this was reducing their appetite (so they ate less at mealtimes), I decided that random snacking had to go. We scheduled one snack per day (after school) and I made sure it was really healthy and tasty. After a week or two they settled into the new rhythm and have completely stopped asking for random snacks.

How long did it take to see a change in your children’s eating habits?
It took about two weeks for my younger daughter (a toddler) and a month (or two) for my older daughter. In general, the younger the child, the more quickly you’ll see a change. But it is never too late.

Do French children eat everything? | BBC Good Food

Do French kids really eat everything? We speak to author Karen Le Billon about adapting to the French way of feeding children...

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/karen-le-billion-french-children-eat-anything

Fizbosshoes · 18/07/2023 18:22

When my DC were this age fruit and veg and bread were offered each day with the meals. But if the choice was fruit or a cookie then I'm not sure there were many takers for fruit.

Im sure the meals are made on a miniscule budget because schools are generally underfunded so why would meals be any different but I'm not convinced it's expensive to make pack lunches. I didn't find it too awful or faffy....but then I think MN would disapprove of my pack lunches as well! (no salads, crudités, humous or flasks of hot meals here, I'm afraid! 🤣 )

Wintercomesoon · 18/07/2023 18:24

You’re not being a food snob. That menu is terrible. Cheap, filling food but not nutritious.

Wintercomesoon · 18/07/2023 18:26

BalletBob · 18/07/2023 18:09

Yeah it’s crap but this is what happens when school meals are contracted out to private firms. Just another money grab.

This.

BelindaBears · 18/07/2023 18:26

DD’s lunch menu sounds like this but there are always vegetables on the side, they’re just not listed. Their morning snack is also always fruit or vegetables so across the day it’s reasonably balanced.

Seaside3 · 18/07/2023 18:30

Packed lunches are not expensive and really take very little time. Once your child gets to an age they can do it themselves it's even easier.

Make life even easier by cooking extra pasta that can be used as pasta salad, same with chicken/ham, lots of salads. Pitta with hummous and so on. When your child is old enough invest in a flask, then it's even easier.

Even if a school has a.salad bar, kids often just ignore thmlem...

PassMeTheRedbull · 18/07/2023 18:31

We live in Ayrshire, Scotland and my kids really enjoy the school meals, they take a packed lunch some days when they don't see anything they'd like it works on a 3 week rotation.

Am I being a food snob?
Quercus30 · 18/07/2023 18:32

Sounds like a typical school meal menu. It's also free in KS1. Children are also provided with a piece of fruit everyday. Mine always had packed lunches even in secondary school. However, some schools discourage children bringing a packed lunch.

BlackFlyChardonnay · 18/07/2023 18:35

That is standard, and you aren't being a snob - school dinners really are not good enough. I do Packed lunches for mine for this reason.

ikno · 18/07/2023 18:39

I’m definitely a food snob, I’m vegetarian so am bored of bland token vegetarian options at restaurants etc. however I couldn’t lose sleep over a school meal as their primary goal is quick, mass food. I wouldn’t hold them to the same standard as a restaurant. If you think this food will negatively impact her, you’ll have to make sure there’s plenty of fruit and veg at home and in her other meals

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 18/07/2023 18:40

Here’s a sample of my DNephew’s school
dinners. He could have packed lunches but I think most of his class have school dinners. He’ll tell you if asked what he gets, see the link below next paragraph. I think he would have packed lunches if more kids had them at his school but then there’d be competition over who had what and his DM would have to prepare and store the food in their small fridge.

it always seems a good mix of veg mixed in and fruit. Don’t know what breakfast club options he has but they try to give him breakfast at home. I do know he gets cheese or chicken sandwiches as part of his after school club food as when I collected him one he was given an extra sandwich to eat on the way home (he said he was hungry!).

http://www.lauriston.hackney.sch.uk/files/parents/school-meals/Lauriston%20School%20Menu%20-%20April%20to%20November.pdf

http://www.lauriston.hackney.sch.uk/files/parents/school-meals/Lauriston%20School%20Menu%20-%20April%20to%20November.pdf

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