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Social services

50 replies

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 17:32

My ex has called social on me , the day I left him he rang the police and social. Now this man in a abusive horrible person and he's doing everything in his power to destroy me .

Since I left 6 days ago , he's doing nothing but pester me and mentally abuse me. He's came Upto my house twice ! For no good reason . Told me to die , tell me I'm a shit mum all sorts.

Now today , I had a knock at my door . It's the social , she came in asked me a few questions about my drinking ( i wine on a night around 3 glasses ) few days a week when kids are in bed. Now my ex has reported me for shouting at kids , putting the kids to bed at 6pm (3 &5 ) and my drinking .. she said it was a anonymous report . I new straight away it was my ex cos he told me . And I told her my side . I said he won't give me time he won't leave me alone . Anyway she had a look around my home . I wasn't dirty just few things that I hadn't moved . One wine bottle on my bed side . And my sons bed didn't have any bedding due to been in the wash. And I got a new bed so my old mattress was in the bathroom fgs . So now I'm over thinking everything! She looked in my fridge I had plently of food . I'm so scared my kids are going to be taken away . She seen the hole in the door that he did and wrote cunt on my door and the hole in my upstairs that he did. She didn't take photos or anything. Now they are going to speak to my son at school , and put a police report in but don't no what ??? So scared need advice

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Reugny · 06/07/2023 17:37

Where was your son sleeping if his bedding was in the wash?

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 17:58

@Reugny he's been at his dads for a week as he's just moved into the village

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Orangewinegum8481 · 06/07/2023 18:06

Record and screenshot all of the abuse.

Social services deal with calls from the fall out of break ups alot and know when a child is in danger, or If a parent is just being malicious towards their ex.

Tbh, the wine bottle by your bed doesn't look good or cunt written by your door but, the social worker would have see your new bed, and the bedclothes in the wash.

You're not going to get your kids taken because you hadn't had time to move a couple of things, social knows homes are lived in.

In the mean time fix up your bed and your child's bed, if possible fix the holes and wash off or paint over the c word.

Amygreenh · 06/07/2023 18:11

Now they are going to speak to my son at school , and put a police report in

I'm confused what is the police report for? Ss don't put reports in to the police for parents shouting at kids so maybe more has been reported?

ladydimitrescu · 06/07/2023 18:12

I think this might be a wake up call about drinking so much, 3 glasses of wine a night and an empty bottle by the bed isn't great is it? They aren't going to snatch your kids away over nothing, but try to work with them and what they suggest. They will see through his abuse.

Fandabedodgy · 06/07/2023 18:18

Parents only lose their kids if its not safe for the kids to live with you, if you are neglected or maltreating them.

But cut back on the wine and stop drinking in bed.

Leah5678 · 06/07/2023 18:20

They will know it was just a malicious call if you explain about your ex, they receive malicious calls all the time so don't worry about that. I'd try to cut down on the drinking a bit if I were you though even if it's when the kids are asleep its still not good for your liver I've had a family member recently been diagnosed with cirrhosis they were not a heavy drinker/alcoholic they just drunk little and often but that's the damage it can do.

Thatboymum · 06/07/2023 18:27

I understand you are drinking when your kids are asleep but what happens if there is a medical emergency for the children and you are too intoxicated to deal with it ? I’m not being unkind but I do think you need to reflect on the visit from ss and see things that could be of concern to outsiders who don’t know you and will have to form an impression on you based on the report made and what they have seen in the home as the report matches the evidence, the other things could be just unfortunate timing but if you were able to show them otherwise then I’d assume that’s fine but the drinking would absolutely concern me

strawberry2017 · 06/07/2023 18:55

An empty wine bottle by the bed is not a good look.
Like a PP said they might be asleep but you have a responsibility to be able to look after them if they need you.
Think about your actions. Don't give him anything he can use against you.

YallaYallaaa · 06/07/2023 18:57

SS don’t just take kids away - don’t worry!

Hopefully they’ll be able to help to sort yourself out and get back to a healthy environment.

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 19:42

Yes i admit the empty bottle of wine not very good ! Was a one off last night just wanted to chill and watch a film . Anyways . She didn't take photos or anything . Iv put my sons bed back together new bedding on ! As it was in the wash . Mattress will be removed tomorrow .. the holes in the door and wall is from my ex ! But they will be sorted soon . It's only been about 6 days , apart from that my house is spotless .. I think she means police report from my ex I don't know , I haven't done anything wrong specially enough for a police report ! He's doing alll this because I left him , I was polite to the ss, agreed on everything and was honest.

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crazeekat · 06/07/2023 19:57

i'm sorry this is happening to you and your kids.
if anything to take from it for other people this is exactly why when you have an abusive partner u MUST keep a note of evidence he/she has done to cause harm. take pics. police reports every single time. document everything. it is so so important so when they try to do things like this poster has now experienced u have some kind of back up to protect you.
op i hope it all
works out for you and u manage to get away from this nutter.

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 20:03

@crazeekat thankyou , he really is a nutcase . How I put up with him for 4 years I don't no ! Abusing me , physical & mental . Control freak . He's a true narcissist, turns everything round on me , and it's all my fault . How he can do this to my kids is Beyond me. I just hope ss can see what mess I was in and what he's like . Because it didn't bother him when I was with him !! Just once I left that's when he decided to phone them ! Bitterness at its finest. I want all this to be over so I can move on

Iv told ss that he's stopped paying me , he's been turning Upto my house late at night , constantly texting / emailing me , all sorts . I really hope they can see what I'm going through here

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PurpleBugz · 06/07/2023 20:17

None of what you said will be enough to loose your kids.

My advice is stop drinking immediately and be t total for a while. Next time you are asked about your drinking you can say you are t total, yes you like a drink but you won't risk your kids over the malicious accusations so just quit all drink to show it's not a problem.

We're your kids away when you drank the wine on the bedside? I'd make a point of mentioning this to the SW tbh. I know of people who have tried to stop druggie exes from having overnight contact with the kids and the ex just said yeah I do drugs just not when I have charge of the kids. Family court judge was fine with this.

And screenshot all abuse texts etc. email them to yourself so if he breaks your phone you still have them. I recommend setting up a new email address just for this so you have all the evidence in one easy to access place. No more phone conversations with ex do it all via email preferably. Do handovers in public places with cctv.

Change your passwords!!! Email bank pins. Change your security questions to things you know he doesn't know. I know of someone who's ex logged into their email with forgotten password thing- send a load if abuse to themselves and making confessions etc etc then he deleted it from sent folder. And used it as evidence the victim w
As the abuser. She went to the police said he'd hacked her and I don't know what the result was she never updated.

Get a ring doorbell.

Go back through all your old messages as far back as you can. Screenshot and email all the evidence of abuse to yourself. If you have never accused him of abuse before you will find he just says you are saying that now after the fact because he's accusing you of what he is. Have you even text friends about what he's done to you? Etc etc. gather all the evidence you can it's historical and you are not making it up.

Most of this advice I'm giving is with family court in mind in case he goes for resident parent to take the kids. Don't be scared of that either. If you have the old messages and quit drinking you will be ok. For SS i honestly don't think you need to worry right now. Just do everything they suggest they have to take you to court to take the kids and at that point you get a solicitor on legal aid if you can't afford one. They may threaten it but they don't get to decide to take your kids it's a judge and it's a long process to get to that point.

They may just dismiss this referral as malicious straight away, although I suspect the wine bottle coupled with ex saying you drink would make them bad social workers to not investigate further if I'm honest. If they start talking about a section 47 assessment come back here and ask for advice again. Don't be scared it's just the process to see if there are genuine safeguarding concerns- very common domestic abuse victims go through them, often multiple times because of accusations from the ex- but they can and usually do result in no future action- maybe even support for you. Try to remember some kids actually are abused by their mothers and if they didn't investigate properly those kids would never be hurt. It's all about the kids.

You want to be short and factual about ex when you talk to SS. You don't want to go on and on and appear to be too wrapped up in it. They want to see you are putting the children first always and in everything. Unless your ex was abusive to the kids the fact he abused you doesn't mean he should not have relationship with the children. Children benefit from relationships with both parents. (Want to make it clear that's not my opinion I think it's fucking disgusting kids can be used as pawns by abusive ex in these games but that isn't what SS or family court think so you have to show concern but not be seen to "block contact"). On that note NEVER bad mouth ex to the kids.

Contact woman's aid. They are amazing. Do the freedom program- in person in a group of you can I found that support from others who understand invaluable. And tell the social worker you are doing it.

And if you find you can't stop drinking then face you have a problem and seek help. Lying will only go badly for you and it's not good for your kids. Again I've met people who had addictions who we're getting support for it and hadn't lost their kids they just had heavy involvement from services for the safety of the kids.

And look up the grey rock method. Honestly it's the only thing that works with these men

Don't be scared. He's doing this to make you scared. Even if you are scared don't let him see it xxx

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 20:35

Thankyou . I can stop drink that's not a problem, was mainly out of Bordeem and to relax . Anyways , I'm gonna not drink for a while even the one ! Because I want them to see I'm ok. I just need the ex to stop this all

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Theunamedcat · 06/07/2023 20:49

They might be concerned that your sending your kids to stay with an abuser for a week

Get the alcohol out the house and a ring doorbell on the front of your house pay the extra for the online footage to be kept I think its 2.99 a month? It insures it also so if he steals it you get a replacement

If they mention the drinking say your not drinking regularly (unless you are) drinking alone is not the greatest look either

Reugny · 06/07/2023 20:50

OP he's unlikely to stop reporting you to SS.

He knows it will result in SS sniffing around - as your child will tell him - he will do it again. Unfortunately it is a common tactic of abusive people - I say people because parents of both sexes and grandparents do this. (There was a story in the press yesterday in Earlsfield of a grandmother of 82 doing this so many times SS told her to leave them alone. )

This means make sure you keep clutter out of your home. So if you need to get rid of an broken appliance or something large get it outside your home asap even if it is dumping in your garden. Then make sure it is removed completely within 2 weeks maximum.

If you want to drink then don't leave empty bottles and dirty glasses lying around especially next to your bed.

Don't leave laundry or dirty plates lying around your house. If you can't put them away put them in neat piles in appropriate places.

Sort out the holes or at least sort out getting the words removed asap.

If SS continue to see what your ex is saying isn't true at all they will start recording all complaints as malicious and ignore them.

Theunamedcat · 06/07/2023 20:50

Also don't respond to any abusive messages just ignore them

Reugny · 06/07/2023 20:51

They might be concerned that your sending your kids to stay with an abuser for a week

@Theunamedcat SS will be but a Family Court judge is very unlikely to view him as an abuser to his children simply as he has not harmed them.

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 21:10

The kids have to different dads .

My son is at his dads for the week - ex of 6 years ago . We get on good , co parent very well . In fact they phoned him and asked about us saying do we get on etc , all good there

My daughter is my recent ex dad , the horrible one

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Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 21:11

So will they come back to my home ? I have nothing to hide at all , but obviously want to make sure iv got everything right ! Tbh I don't even think she noticed the empty wine bottle but who knows.

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Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 21:12

She did say to me , iv had no other ss claims against me and my son is 5 . So , apart from one time I missed his hospital appointment once for his glasses due to mix up . But they closed the case .

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Emmamoo89 · 06/07/2023 21:21

Reugny · 06/07/2023 20:50

OP he's unlikely to stop reporting you to SS.

He knows it will result in SS sniffing around - as your child will tell him - he will do it again. Unfortunately it is a common tactic of abusive people - I say people because parents of both sexes and grandparents do this. (There was a story in the press yesterday in Earlsfield of a grandmother of 82 doing this so many times SS told her to leave them alone. )

This means make sure you keep clutter out of your home. So if you need to get rid of an broken appliance or something large get it outside your home asap even if it is dumping in your garden. Then make sure it is removed completely within 2 weeks maximum.

If you want to drink then don't leave empty bottles and dirty glasses lying around especially next to your bed.

Don't leave laundry or dirty plates lying around your house. If you can't put them away put them in neat piles in appropriate places.

Sort out the holes or at least sort out getting the words removed asap.

If SS continue to see what your ex is saying isn't true at all they will start recording all complaints as malicious and ignore them.

Social services don't mind a few dirty plates/laundry. They like to see a place lived in.

Anonymousgirlxoxox · 06/07/2023 21:30

Yeah my house definitely wasn't dirty just abit untidy specially the bath room 🤦‍♀️

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Reugny · 06/07/2023 21:32

Emmamoo89 · 06/07/2023 21:21

Social services don't mind a few dirty plates/laundry. They like to see a place lived in.

Yeah they are happy to see empty wine glasses and a wine bottle in the OP bedroom? Plus days old food plates in the bedrooms?

About a days worth of stuff piled up in the kitchen is normal but not elsewhere.

Problem is when you make statements like a few dirty plates/laundry people don't understand what a "few" means and where it is appropriate for them to be.

The OP just wants SS to leave her alone asap every time she is reported.