2 of a HUNDRED WAYS CAR REMOTE KEYS CAN KILL YOUR FAMILY

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2 of a HUNDRED WAYS CAR REMOTE KEYS CAN KILL YOUR FAMILY

A remote key (keyless car) stranded for 24 hours a savvy, experienced driver, a lone female member of my family, 100 miles from home, putting her in danger.

The car user’s manual didn’t tell her that if the key falls out of the car while the engine is running, you can still drive unlimited miles; then the car can’t start once stopped; you are stranded and the car cannot be towed because the steering is locked.

1 - TYPICAL POSSIBLE FATAL EVENT FOR ANY PARENT:
A young father with three children on board stops in a motorway service area and while the children run in to buy sweets, the father leaves the engine running, and steps out of the car to stretch his legs; he pulls a tissue out of his pocket and the tiny remote key falls on the ground, unnoticed.

The children return and pile into the car.

Over their chatter he does not hear or notice a soft tone and message on the dashboard screen behind the steering wheel “key not in vehicle”.

Why should he notice this message when the car is constantly “crying wolf” with pointless messages.

A few minutes later father and children are stuck in a motorway holdup that has lasted for 20 minutes and he carefully creeps his car forward in the holdup that crawls forward a few feet at a time.

All around, drivers are turning off their engines as the holdup is visible far ahead in the distance. To save petrol the father turns off the engine.

No one has told him that without the tiny remote key present in the car, once the engine has been turned off the car cannot be restarted.

The traffic suddenly starts moving but as he tries to restart the car a message flashes up “key not detected”.
The car and steering are now disabled.

Fast vehicles are veering to avoid the family car trapped and stopped in a motorway lane.
A second later a six-tonne goods vehicle driver, not realising the car is stopped, crashes into the back of the family car; all are killed.

After our deep searches on the net, it looks like the the motor industry has buried this type of danger.
Utube has lots of videos by shocked drivers, testing their cars, driving unlimited miles with the remote key left at home.

2 - FACTUAL DEATHS:
In the USA there are a myriad of news stories about families being killed by remote keys (keyless cars) pumping CO gas into homes from garages:

here is a link to one report in The New York Times:
www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/business/deadly-convenience-keyless-cars-and-their-carbon-monoxide-toll.html

I hope this message saves lives.

No. It blocks the signal completely.

If this is the biggest worry that you have in your life at the moment (so big you felt the need to write a short thesis with bold capital letter headings) good on you.

Personally I'm more concerned by: cost of living, horrendous death toll from the earthquake, horrible instances of male violence, eroding of women's same sex spaces, inadequate NHS provision, strikes, fuel prices etc

But you do you.

Ah ok
thank you for that

What a weird post OP. What on earth.

Keyless cars won't lock if the key is inside the car, won't even operate a boot closer

Yes they can. I've managed it twice with my car when the key has been in my handbag. I now have to have my car key either in a trouser pocket or on a lanyard round my neck so that I don't do it a third time!

Not quite as dramatic, but I dropped DH off at the train station recently and neither of us realised the car key was in his pocket. He was running late, so literally jumped out the car and made a dash for the train, and as I went to drive off, car starts telling me "smart key not detected" which to be honest it does from time to time if the key is deep in my handbag, so I momentarily ignored it and started to pull away. It wasn't until I suddenly thought "SHIT.... I actually don't have the key!" And had to jump out and run after him, screaming that he had the car key. He was literally about to board the train, and I would have been stranded at a train station in the middle of bloody nowhere, with two babies in the car, if he'd been a second quicker. We always have to check now that the driver has the key if we're dropping one another somewhere!

But leaving the ignition on and getting out the car has always been ill advised and being unable to start your car on the motorway is something that can happen to anyone

*Magpie swoops down and picks up dropped key, flies upto 100 m , loses grip on key, key plummets towards earth , gaining momentum until it interfaces with the skull of an unspecified family member and penetrates their brain.

Tiny keys?? They aren't tiny, we've 2 different makes of car and the keys are massive. If you lose or drop the key that's on you not on the manufacturer.

Maybe you could attach a string to your key and tie it round your wrist to avoid these, obviously very worrying to you, scenarios happening??

Turned the engine off on the motorway? Apparat from being a foolish thing to do, does a car that is sophisticated enough to be keyless really not have stop/start when in traffic? Find that hard to believe.

The 2 examples are just examples of humans being either forgetful or dim. Not the cars fault. I imagine your other 98 reasons are equally as ridiculous.

I hate them.

I have one for the first time.

The battery ran out in the key, meaning I was stuck in an isolated, lonely car park one Sunday with my very pretty 16 yo daughter.

It was freezing and we had no way of even getting in.

I walked first to a VW dealership where they were surprisingly unhelpful other than to point me towards a Toolstation. The Toolstation was out of stock and we were in real trouble till they searched and found one.

It was a really tricky business getting the battery into the key, and apparently had to be done super quick right next to the car.

The car alarm went off, so I looked like I was breaking into my own car for about 10 minutes.

At one point, a drunk, leery group of men came past obviously on the way home from the pub watching a football match.

It felt a bit threatened but thankfully apart from a few cheers and sexist comments, they passed by.

Still not what I had hoped for from that v expensive car - and it could have been a lot worse.

Well he could have turned the engine off before exiting to stretch his legs. The man is selfish and had no consideration for the planet...

The battery can run out?? How frequently?

ive had my car for ten years and not once have I had to change the battery.

i still don’t see the point of them tbh.

I think the dad should go in to the motor way service station, I don't let my kids go into them alone as I worry about their safety.

I dropped my husband off at his work and drove off not realising the key was in his pocket. He rang me to tell me. I was terrified I’d stall at a roundabout or traffic lights and not be able to get going again, causing a massive traffic jam. Luckily I got home fine and found out that had I have stalled it would have started again anyway.

For those doubting that you couldn’t drive without the key, it happened to me 2 years ago. I drove 25 miles to work and realised I didn’t have my key. It was an early start, frozen car, went out to defrost it and returned inside to grab a coffee accidentally leaving my key. No obvious warnings on dash/ alerts - BMW only a few years old. I was amazed the tech allowed it.

A colleague at work has done this in a company car (Ford) and got quite a long way before realising and becoming stranded. And a family member did it (BMW) but realised a few miles into the journey and got home before turning the engine off. Neither were given any indication by the car that the key had been left behind.

Both of these incidents were several years ago though so I hoped the tech had improved by now.

I just find it annoying finding somewhere to place the key in the car, much easier it having to be in the ignition.

Yes!!! When the hubby goes to open the front door and your left going to park the car not realising the keys were in their pockets. Done this a few times. 😂

I did it once in a Land Rover Discovery, had got the kids in the car and started it then realised one of them had left something indoors. Left the car running when I jumped out. Door key was on same key ring as car key, must have unlocked door and put keys down 🤦‍♀️ Front door was a yale lock so just slammed it shut on my way back out.

Got to school and then realised I didn’t have keys when I went to lock the car! Had to get MIL to go to mine and let herself in with her key and bring me my keys. Was really surprised the car had let me drive it with no warning.

Every car I have had since has had keyless start but I’ve never tried to drive again without after that experience so I don’t actually know if my current car would let me. Might have to take it down the road without the key to try it out 🤣

This is sensationalist clap trap - did those 2 events actually occur?

@Aposterhasnoname Assuming you were referring to my 'garage story' it absolutely did happen. I assume there was a beep beep noise, which I have heard since, but as our DC were also on the car, and music, I doubt it was heard.

Nope, I was referring to the story in the op about cars running in the garage attached to the house and gassing the house occupants.