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Thoughts on Montessori parenting?

75 replies

MumOfTwoBeans · 23/01/2023 13:41

Unpopular opinion, I think it’s a bit ridiculous

what are your thoughts?

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Krakenes · 23/01/2023 17:36

What’s unhygienic about a floor bed? Think you might need to hoover more!! I let my 18m old use a chunky glass tumbler. I don’t really see any issues in what you’ve described?

HereComesMaleficent · 23/01/2023 17:37

I let my toddler cut vegetables with a sharp(ish) knife and use a glass.

He's 8 now, he chops up peppers and chicken with a sharp knife 😳

He's still in one piece as and has all his fingers. Didn't realise I was being a Montessori parent.

Mainly I was being a cheap parent who couldn't be bothered to buy "plastic" stuff 🤣

He's never broken a glass. I told him if you drop it it will break, I on the other hand have broken about 4 last year alone when I dropped them with soapy hands doing the dishes 🤣

doadeer · 23/01/2023 17:38

My son loves his floor bed. It's not remotely unhygenic, I clean his room every day.

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mathanxiety · 23/01/2023 17:59

I love it and think the Montessori approach is one that should be much more widely followed both at home and in school.

I still think that Finn's nursery blog was hilarious for its preciousness all the same.

But back in the real world, Montessori isn't necessarily synonymous with 'precious' and I want to know what has it ever done to you, OP?

mathanxiety · 23/01/2023 18:01

Blunt knives are far more dangerous than properly sharp ones and leave cuts that are harder to stitch back together, fwiw.

Greensleeves · 23/01/2023 18:12

MumOfTwoBeans · 23/01/2023 15:54

@ALS94 i don’t want a debate, I’m genuinely curious on peoples opinions because I personally don’t know anybody that parents that way so I wanted to be enlightened

Did you fuck as like, you wanted to start a recreational sneering session Grin

Quite why you thought MN was the place to come for a "poking-fun-at-crunchy-parenting-fashions" fix escapes me...you'd have been better off elsewhere IMO

Personally, I'm not really comfortable with any kind of single-method parenting, it tends to interfere with the development of a real human relationship iyswim. Most sensible parents come into it with a few ethical/stylistic preferences (which may or may not survive pregnancy and birth), then respond to the child they actually have, cherry-picking bits from different philosophies and advice from different sources until they find a routine that works for them...then the child has a spurt, and it all flies up in the air again.

You wouldn't like me, btw. I teach bushcraft and whittling to children from 3 up. With very, very sharp knives. The only kids who cut themselves tend to be the ones with hovering, micro-critical parents who won't let them concentrate Grin

Flapjackquack · 23/01/2023 18:18

On the sharp knives debate a couple of years ago I watched Buddy Oliver (Jamie Oliver’s son) fillet a fish with a very sharp knife aged 9 or 10. At first I was utterly horrified but as I watched I realised he had much better knife control than I did and had obviously been taught by a professional. I wouldn’t start my toddler off with a filleting knife but it made me realise children are more capable than we give them credit for.

FurAndFeathers · 23/01/2023 18:26

MumOfTwoBeans · 23/01/2023 15:54

@ALS94 i don’t want a debate, I’m genuinely curious on peoples opinions because I personally don’t know anybody that parents that way so I wanted to be enlightened

Then why are you being so judgemental and unpleasant?

it really doesn’t come across as genuine curiosity!

itsabigtree · 23/01/2023 19:22

It's not 'crunchy' at all.

It's teaching life skills, autonomy and independence. Which is the point of parenting any child surely. It absolutely allows kids to be kids. But does not patronise them, instead its about encouraging them to engage with their skills and the world in an age appropriate way.

In the country I live in, the majority of infant schools are Montessori or Montessori inspired.

Natsku · 24/01/2023 07:49

Developing life skills is important for young children. It’s really not that unusual for them to use knives and tools under parental supervision in other parts of Europe and the rest of the world.

I remember going to pick DD up from nursery once and saw several children sat in a circle gleefully hammering nails into a log. Real hammers, real nails.

Juicyjuicymango · 30/10/2023 12:29

What's wrong with helping a child have a little independence? Everyone knows that toddlers have meltdowns because they just want to do things themselves. Why not let them learn in an age appropriate way rather than telling them they can't?

My just turned two year old can dress herself and do her own coat, socks and shoes. How awful...

Caspianberg · 30/10/2023 12:55

Where we live almost all nursery’s follow the Montessori ethos.

Ds loves his nursery. They encourage children to be independent, but also encourage children to express their thoughts and opinions. Children are very much seen as equal to adults and respect given to all.

Toys and belongings taught to tidy away so they can find again later. Ds does this at home now automatically.

Ds does everything with us adults at home, everything from cleaning, cooking, gardening, diy.

Yocal · 30/10/2023 13:15

I have a lot of respect for parents who read about parenting and educational methods so they better understand their roles as parents.

I have no axe to grind.

I'd recommend reading more into Montessori methods before judging as you appear to have a tic tok influencer level of awareness. The trouble with people who self publish, on tik tok etc, can talk whatever ribbish they like. They might be just selling whatever gives them some income. You need to find better educational sources.

Yocal · 30/10/2023 13:17

FarawayWe · 30/10/2023 09:08

Some researchers where I work recently summarised all available studies on this (effects of Montessori education): https://www.campbellcollaboration.org/better-evidence/montessori-impact-on-academic-and-nonacademic-outcomes.html.

Also: https://www.campbellcollaboration.org/blog/does-montessori-work.html

For example this. Peer reviewed.

Yocal · 31/10/2023 12:29

.....And still not a word of thanks from OP when people have gone to the trouble of presenting evidenced based, peer reviewed papers to answer her question. 🙄

fearfuloffluff · 31/10/2023 12:39

Come on then, OP - what's the best approach to parenting in early years?

Montessori nurseries are fine. Montessori-influenced parenting can be a bit labour intensive and require determination to avoid more mainstream ways of doing things, but it's fine for people who want to do that.

People who do things in a Montessori way probably belong to a certain limited demographic of herbal tea drinking vegetarian types, but again - what's wrong with that? It takes all sorts.

Floor beds and china cups etc are not for me but the principle of letting children learn to assess risk themselves within a safe environment seems sound.

riverlodge90 · 31/10/2023 12:55

I think it goes back to primitive parenting but in a good way. Everyone given their own tasks, children have small responsibilities.
Doing household and lifestyles chores and learning skills rather than endless playing with toys. Children want to mimic adults, it's how they learn. I love watching the videos of children with their own cooking stations making their own food and using actual food rather than sticking plastic pizza toppings onto something with Velcro.🤣

LemonRedwood · 31/10/2023 13:00

Yocal · 31/10/2023 12:29

.....And still not a word of thanks from OP when people have gone to the trouble of presenting evidenced based, peer reviewed papers to answer her question. 🙄

When you're replying to a thread that's been revived from January I think it's unreasonable to expect immediate thanks from the OP.

BertieBotts · 31/10/2023 13:01

I don't think the glass cup is so that they learn it breaks - I think it's just an ideological thing of glass being nicer than plastic to drink out of, and having the same amount of respect for a child as an adult. We don't typically drink out of plastic, do we? The main reason that we do give plastic to children is that we assume they don't mind, and because we assume they will break things. Both sort of disrespectful assumptions really.

I like some aspects of the Montessori approach. Play schemas are a really helpful concept - that is the idea that small children are learning about the world through their play, and the different schemas represent different aspects (of usually physics) that they are discovering and testing out. For example, a child in the trajectory schema is interested in movement, so they will like to roll marbles down a slope, push trains up/down hills and throw things. Therefore, if you're having a problem with throwing behaviour, rather than just getting angry with the child you can see it as part of this schema and redirect to a less dangerous activity, like marble run, setting up a slope for cars, or setting up a safe/appropriate throwing activity.

In general I think the idea that children are small humans learning to be big humans is really great and I do love this, I think children are much more competent and aware than most people assume and give them credit for, and I think the Montessori approach generally gets this right. There's another fantastic theory that used to be quite fashionable (and OP would probably be equally irritated by!) called TCS - Taking Children Seriously.

I am a fan of anything that reduces my workload in parenting, so I do like some aspects of independence for DC and I have found in my own experience that for certain things, it does pay dividends if you let them do stuff themselves when they are still bad and slow and unskilled at it, because that means by the time they get to the stage of INSISTING that they do it "mine self" they actually have a chance of being able to manage it. Whereas if you always do something for them, because it's quicker, until they don't let you any more, they then try, can't do it and get unbelievably frustrated, which is just a nightmare for everyone. I'm not saying that practice at age 1-2 alleviates all of this, but it does seem to reduce a lot of it.

OTOH, I have plastic lidded cups/sports bottles for them to drink out of, even though I really hate drinking out of these myself, because I really dislike the extra work of clearing water up off the floor/table/everywhere else when they have decided that they are in the containment or transformation schema and need to experiment with how liquids and containers work Halloween Grin Luckily we live in Germany where the early education is extremely influenced by Montessori type principles, so I have effectively outsourced them learning to drink from open cups, and they can both manage this well including the 2yo. It just takes more supervision than I can be bothered with to prevent the water experiments.

BertieBotts · 31/10/2023 13:01

Oh damn. Didn't notice this was a zombie thread. Oops.

Yocal · 31/10/2023 13:09

Me neither

EnoughIsay · 31/10/2023 13:42

EdithWeston · 23/01/2023 15:02

Montessori isn't a parenting style, it's an approach to nursery education

And it doesn't demand beige toys! It's all about letting DC discover things for themselves (in an age appropriate way) and through play. Without the adults showing them what they're meant to do all the time.

Actually it goes all the way through high school.

They get very results too - not just academically but socially.

FarawayWe · 31/10/2023 19:11

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread! I wanted to share the research links above. Also, yes, Montessori goes all the way through, but it seems to have a stronger impact on pre- and primary school children than on secondary school children. This may be because there are fewer studies at older ages.

professionalnomad · 05/11/2023 21:35

Floor beds are fine
We have one because my daughter hated her cot from day 1
We air the mattress out every time we change the sheet and have it sitting on foam tiles. Safer for a small kid than a traditional bed frame

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