Is this dress offensive?

[freezingpompoms]

This dress was bought in America 20 years ago. It's a Disney Small World dress that depicts differing nationalities. It's age 2-3.

Someone said they didn't think it's very PC so I just want to check. I'm happy to be told either way.

So the Koreans who created this character and who watch it and consume associated products depicting this children’s cartoon character are all racists are they? Interesting.

Are you going to sharpie the eyes OP?

Answer the question and end this!🤣

I've never had such a busy thread!!!

I think I'll have a look at restitching the eyes.

Exactly! Plus, I’d need my glasses on & which kid even stays still long enough to focus on the detail like eyes on a doll/kid on a skirt🤣

Beung offended doesn’t make you right, it’s just an opinion that some people can’t seem to accept!

I would put my DD in this & if anyone was offended (they wouldn’t be) I’d just say “oh well, tough tittie”

I can’t honestly believe anyone in RL would get worked up about this.

MN on the other hand…

I don't think anybody is "worked up", they've just answered the OPs question. TBH I think most people, if seeing a child wearing the dress wouldn't notice the characters, or their features. But since OPs posted the dress, zoomed in and asked, people are responding to that.

@StarDolphins do you think that people who have been racially abused using the narrow eyes stereotype, like a previous poster's children, would actually raise it with you? Or are they more likely to mark you down as either ignorantly or deliberately racist and avoid you as much as possible in the future?

You'd say tough tittie to the face of one of the people on this thread of the ethnicity being depicted who said they are offended? How can you be proud to make this statement?

Pucca, as in the cartoon where the characters have a variety of different eye shapes (much as one would find in real life across a variety of nationalities?)

If it’s created by a Korean artist, rather than an American one, that also makes a difference re representation vs lazy stereotypes.

This.

Yup.

Ironically, but unsurprisingly, the only people getting worked up on this thread are the ones claiming that people are too easily offended these days.

Well as I’m not racist, they can mark me down as whatever they like but I’m guessing unless you insist a child stays still so you can inspect a doll on a skirt or you’re looking for something wrong then nobody would notice/care what the tiny eyes on a tiny skirt look like.

The world has gone nuts!

Why is it if you're inclusive and show diversity you're then stereotyping? Would it bother me with an American word a beef eater skirt - NO! anyone who gets offended by a very sweet skirt is going to rub off on their kids and give their kid strange ideas!!!!!!!

Yes, that’s the one. The main character is the one with the slanted eyes and it is her depiction that can be found on a multitude of merch online right now. If I were to dress my little girl in clothing with her image on it and posted about it on here I presume (based on this thread) that a lot of very angry people would be calling me a racist but yet it seems perfectly acceptable in Korea and I don’t see much of a hooha about it anywhere else, the cartoons haven’t been banned for example, in fact they were on Netflix not long ago.

Incidentally Pucca sells noodles and has a Ninja boyfriend which is all very streotypical and offensive as well - potentially!

No idea, not seen it but as you mention it in a thread about racist images it would be a fair assumption

I’m a bit worried that my kids would go for option 1, and not gently 😁

But seriously, for most kids who’ve been racially abused with that stereotype, it will just add an extra weight to the discomfort or pain or feeling of not fitting in that they already carry.

Posters like @StarDolphins and the others on this thread who are happy to add to that pain just because they don’t get it either don’t realise the harm they do, or don’t see kids of other races as important enough to care about.

See my earlier post. Pics like this are the opposite of inclusive, and while there may be an intention of trying to show diversity, they actually show a version of diversity so narrow that it has the opposite effect.

That was in response to @neptunem

I’ve heard it all now.

Yes I would. It’s a skirt that is small with the tiniest detail to a grown up - like I said previously, I’d think cute skirt & that’s it. I wouldn’t be able to tell you what the dolls look like/what their features are but a glance at a lovely skirt.

I’d be offended that they were offended! I would also be extremely impressed that they can make out anything on it as what little kid stands still while you inspect their clothing.

@StarDolphins ok, so racist images are fine as long as they are likely small enough not to be noticed.

I'd like to see you stand in front of the children mentioned on this thread and tell them that racist imagery depicting the exact way they've previously been racially abused is just their "tough titties" if they do notice it and are upset.

*from a glance

@SweetcornFritter I looked into Pucca a little more. Turns out

Although she is usually depicted with her eyes closed (which is also the case with both Bruce and Ssoso), she will sometimes opens her eyes in some animations (like in the episodes Dance, Pucca, Dance and The Usual Ching, where it shows Pucca with red eyes) and in some official art.

@freezingpompoms off tool if but I got stuck in the centre of that ride in a boat for over an hour with that bloody song going on and on. I’ve never been so pleased to leave a ride.

*off topic