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Ferber method worked for us in 2 weeks! Hoping this will help others, long post alert!

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BeckyBoo16 · 16/01/2023 02:30

’m posting this in the hopes it helps someone looking for advice about the Ferber method. I apologise in advance for how long the post will be! Some background - DS is formula fed, had to be rocked/held and have bum patted to go to sleep. We coslept from 4 months with sidecar cot. Several night wake ups. Bedtime routine of bath, pjs, sleep bag, bottle, bed in place from 5 months. Due to cosleeping I was sitting next to him after he fell asleep until I went to bed myself.

We did lots of research into this method and at 7 months we decided to try it. We put the side back on the cot and moved the cot to the end of our bed (his bedroom being decorated still). We carried on with our usual bedtime routine as normal. We adapted the method slightly and went in at 1 minute, then 2 minutes etc but only at proper crying. When we go in, we’ve only been shushing and patting his bum, we haven’t picked him up. We never left him longer than 5 minutes to cry. (For this post the ‘interventions’ is when we had to go in and settle him)

Night 1 - it took him 50 minutes to settle 7.10-8pm, only making small noises and not proper cries. he became upset between 8-9pm but only 2 interventions when the crying happened. He woke for a bottle at 1am and fell back asleep with small murmurs till 6.15am.

Night 2 - he was very cross for about 1 hour, 6 interventions in total and DP settled him in the end, he then slept 8.30pm - 5am, had a bottle at 5, went back to sleep till 8am (the best night since he was born)

Night 3 - it was a later bedtime due to an overrun nap as we were out. Put down at 9pm, 2 interventions as we had proper crying, asleep by 9.15pm, woke up at 4am, popped dummy back in, fell asleep till 7.30am

Night 4 - we skipped the bath part of our routine tonight, put down at 7.10, 1 intervention, he was asleep by 7.30pm but awake at 7.50, just babbling, went in twice around 8ish, asleep again by 8.30, woke 10.30, had bottle and Calpol and a cuddle before going back in the cot (as he’s teething), he then slept till 5, bottle at 5.15, slept till 8.30am

Then it was night 5. However on this day I decided to try the method for his afternoon nap so put him down at 2pm after a bottle, put his sleep bag on, curtains shut, music on, there was no crying and in 15 mins he was asleep and he had 90 min nap and woke up very smiley and happy………..Night 5 - bedtime was slightly earlier as there was no third nap following his 90 min afternoon nap so he was definitely tired! Put down at 6.38pm. Asleep by 7pm, 2 interventions only because he dropped the dummy twice, there was no crying, also tonight we left baby monitor on and went downstairs for first time in 7 months, kept checking on him every 30 minutes, he woke at 1am for a bottle, went back to sleep till 5, he woke up and wasn’t settling (I think due to teething) so he had cuddles in bed with us till 7am.

Night 6 - (he had his afternoon nap in the cot today too) no bath tonight but bottle, pjs, sleep bag and he sleepy talked to himself and was asleep within 10 minutes. NO INTERVENTIONS!!! Slept from 7.20pm till 3.30am. He then babbled to himself for 30 minutes before a bottle. Had a bottle at 4 but was still awake at 5.15 so I did pick him up and bum pat to sleep before putting him back in the cot. Slept till 8am.

Night 7 - no interventions, went down and fell asleep within 10 mins. Woke up 4.30am for a bottle, went to sleep 5am till 7am.
We have been doing this now for nearly 2 weeks and he just babbles to himself for 10 minutes or so before falling asleep. He’s also having more naps in the cot during the day.

I really hope this post helps a sleep deprived parent like we were in teaching their baby to self settle. I have been really honest in his wake ups/timings/etc.

It has been an absolute game changer for us. Aside from the odd night due to teething where he was picked up and given a cuddle, this method has been amazing.
There will always be the negative comments about this method but we never left DS longer than 5 minutes to cry. He is a happy, content baby in the day and gets lots of love and cuddles from us.

We did adapt the timings slightly and didn’t follow the proper timings but what we did worked for us, we not only have our evenings back but our bed back and DS can settle himself to sleep which was our main goal of doing this as he will be moving into his own room soon. So if anyone reading this is thinking of trying it I would say just try it for a week or two. I appreciate this method isn’t for everyone but just wanted to share our experience for anyone who is thinking of trying it. I didn’t think it would work but we were consistent and stayed strong and our little one has surprised us in how quickly he’s picked this up.

Thank you for reading if you’re still here! No negative comments please - this is in support of this method to help other parents 💐

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MrsTerryPratchett · 16/01/2023 02:34

No negative comments please - this is in support of this method to help other parents

That's not how the internet works. I think it's a cruel system and shouldn't be promoted here.

I have a much older child and note that she wasn't left to cry at all and has no sleep issues and no social issues. Some of her friends who were do. Could be correlation or causation but it's worth stating.

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 02:36

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BeckyBoo16 · 16/01/2023 02:47

@MrsTerryPratchett I appreciate that not everybody agrees with it and it’s great that your little one was fine with sleep. My DS could not put himself to sleep and after 2 weeks he can, he’s a very happy baby. Plus we never left him longer than 5 minutes when the proper method is something like 20 minutes. My 4 year old niece also had this method and she’s a great sleeper even now with no social issues.

It’ll be different for every baby. But he’s worth stating a possible correlation but I more wanted to put in detail how we did it as when I was looking for similar posts on mumsnet I really struggled to find them.

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BeckyBoo16 · 16/01/2023 02:49

sorry *it’s worth

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MrsTerryPratchett · 16/01/2023 02:54

it’s great that your little one was fine with sleep

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

She woke every two hours every night for two years. I just didn't leave her to cry. She was happy and healthy and fine with waking.

At 7 months it is completely normal to need help to sleep and to wake during the night.

Fixyourself · 16/01/2023 03:29

This method is very outdated now and caused a generation of mental health issues.
Why have a baby if cuddling them is an inconvenience?

Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 03:29

My baby was an awesome sleeper until the 8 month regression then would not go back in the cot all of a sudden, I refused to co-sleep because of the SIDs risk so did sleep training out of desperation. The consultant gave me a routine as well, it was all so interesting as I had no idea day sleep affected night sleep. Now we were having a 2-3 hour nap during the day, and bed at 6.30 instead of closer to 9 so I also had evenings back. Within a couple of days we were back to one wake up at night, and 12 hour sleep within two weeks. I didn't want to let DC cry so only did 3 min max, it was sooo hard, but so worth it. Baby was getting about 6 or so hours more sleep in 24 hours. Happy baby and happy mum. Total game changer! No looking back for us 🤗

Dippyeggz · 16/01/2023 03:34

Fixyourself · 16/01/2023 03:29

This method is very outdated now and caused a generation of mental health issues.
Why have a baby if cuddling them is an inconvenience?

This is not true. All data that has been gathered so far suggests children experience zero I'll effects from sleep training

Dippyeggz · 16/01/2023 03:35

*ill effects

TooHotToRamble · 16/01/2023 03:58

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Don't be ridiculous.

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 04:03

I don't think it's ridiculous to call out neglectful behaviour from a parent

Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 04:12

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 04:03

I don't think it's ridiculous to call out neglectful behaviour from a parent

Really?? Letting your baby cry for 3 min is neglectful? Did you take yours in with you when you went to the toilet? Did your baby never cry? Do you think co sleeping is better? My friends child died this way so for me this wasn't an option. Seriously, get a grip.

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 04:33

You have no idea of my circumstances nor do I yours yet we both have access to data and research

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 16/01/2023 04:50

Glad it worked for you OP, i'm a big believer in helping to teach your baby how to self settle, and i'm sure your post will help others! I've never seen an issue with letting babies have a little cry, its how they communicate, doesn't always mean they are sad

Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 04:54

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 04:33

You have no idea of my circumstances nor do I yours yet we both have access to data and research

My circumstances are literally on this thread 🤔 🤦🏼‍♀️and of course I did my research, as I have done with everything 🙄 You do you 😆😚

happynewyear11 · 16/01/2023 05:01

Babies stop crying because they know no matter what they do nobody is coming the help them.

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 05:14

To have "done your research" and still willingly choose Ferber method is 'interesting' to say the least..

Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 05:36

Ferber, CIO, CC whatever it’s branding this decade, it is really from over 100yrs ago and based on outdated concepts like babies can’t feel pain.

The particular historical and long debunked basis for this method was the belief that if the baby isn’t crying, then the baby is happy. We have known for quite a few decades now that babies can physiologically be more distressed while silent than while crying hysterically. How do we know? By measuring levels of stress hormones and seeing attachment disorders in babies subjected to this sleep torture. (As well as studying behaviour & crying patterns in neglected and abused babies btw)

Ferber/CIO/CC lie to parents by telling them what they want to hear- a quiet baby is a happy baby.

Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 05:39

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 05:14

To have "done your research" and still willingly choose Ferber method is 'interesting' to say the least..

Your reading comprehension is truly shocking, I didn't do Ferber, I only let my baby cry for a maximum of 3 minutes. As I recall Ferber goes to 30 minutes. I did a version of Ferber, spaced soothing. Not CIO. As you're such an "expert", I'm sure you know the difference. Also as well as doing research, which by the way didn't just involve randomly googling stuff I paid for a sleep consultant to guide me through the process to make sure I was doing it right, who I'm sure was much more of an expert than you, given what she charges.

Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 05:55

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/01/2023 02:34

No negative comments please - this is in support of this method to help other parents

That's not how the internet works. I think it's a cruel system and shouldn't be promoted here.

I have a much older child and note that she wasn't left to cry at all and has no sleep issues and no social issues. Some of her friends who were do. Could be correlation or causation but it's worth stating.

Must be a full moon as I’ve agreed with you.

Gapmumma · 16/01/2023 05:58

I'm disengaging from further conversation with you. To even make a post on the internet in the first place saying "no negative comments" shows how dillusional you are. I feel more than sorry for your child. Hopefully the neglect you've decided to show them doesn't in turn impact others as they grow into an adult. At least you'll be well rested though and that's all that matters right. LOL

BeckyBoo16 · 16/01/2023 06:42

Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 04:12

Really?? Letting your baby cry for 3 min is neglectful? Did you take yours in with you when you went to the toilet? Did your baby never cry? Do you think co sleeping is better? My friends child died this way so for me this wasn't an option. Seriously, get a grip.

@Judgyjudgy what you’ve said basically! 100 per cent!!

In my post it says we adapted the method and he never cried longer than 5 minutes! He’s cried more than that in the car and I can’t stop the car every 2 minutes and get out and check on him can I! Maybe I should have named it “adapted Ferber method” while actually doing this, the only day he cried for longer was the second where despite us going in he was just cross.

@Gapmumma he’s the happiest baby you could ever meet, always smiling and laughing and he quite happily goes to sleep in his cot now alone and wakes up with big smiles. I understand you don’t agree with the method but I’m so pleased we tried it as we’re all getting so much more sleep and his day naps are falling into place much better too now.

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Judgyjudgy · 16/01/2023 07:12

@BeckyBoo16 Yep very happy baby here too, and thriving toddler now. I felt a bit guilty I hadn't done this sooner as he was sleeping so much more (about 6 hours in 24 hours) after his new routine and sleep training. An ex colleague and friend is doing her study now to be a sleep consultant and we were just talking about this last week, the science behind it is really interesting.

Good luck with everything OP, enjoy your baby and your sleep 😊 😴

tirednewmumm · 16/01/2023 07:36

"he was very cross for about 1 hour" I don't think you're supposed to let them be distressed for that long even with sleep training! Baby's cortisol will have been sky high. Just something to keep in mind as sleep training is usually only temporary, a fair few of my friends have used it and had to re do it after every regression/cold/teething/starting nursery etc

BeckyBoo16 · 16/01/2023 14:21

@tirednewmumm no we were still going in every 2/3 minutes and settling him, he just became cross/upset again when we left. In total it was roughly an hour but we were still going in and settling him, it was only that 1 night he was like that

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