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AIBU to be pissed off with Beaver leaders

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Ladyday1995 · 15/01/2023 20:32

DS 6 has been involved with squirrels and then beavers for over a year and really enjoys it. There’s been a few things which have gotten up my nose over the last year or so. Firstly the leaders seem to treat the group as some kind of super exclusive club where they don’t want parents to be involved, I have offered my help several times in the past and also volunteered to be involved with hikes etc, they don’t want to know. Secondly, during a trip to a designated scouting camp, DH and me went for a short walk around the grounds and discovered two things which disturbed us: 1) a burnt out van 2) a set of medieval stocks.
This really creeped us out and we kept DS off for a few weeks while we mulled it over, we decided we wouldn’t allow DS to stay on any overnight trips and accompany him on any day trips. Anyway, today during a church parade, one of the head scout leaders (in front of everyone including our vicar) made a huge deal out of DS necker, taking it off claiming it was untidy and hadn’t been done properly? It was mortifying for us and really offended us. Still we smiled and said we’d take more care next time. Then after the parade, another main scout leader wandered over to us, condescendingly tapping his shoulders, me and DH were perplexed, asked what do you mean?, he tells me I have sewn one of DS Welsh flag badges on the wrong way - then proceeded to say “I’m not OCD or anything but get it sorted by Wednesday”. This has pissed me off because I do in fact have OCD and I find this type of talk trivializes a condition I have lived with for 16 years. I will acknowledge that I have had something of a chip on my shoulder for some time about their ways but usually I just try to ignore it as DS enjoys going, but I’m really pissed off at this type of behavior. It would be different if we were pulled aside quietly and shown how to fold his necker properly, or he phrased his request for me to restitch his badges on differently. It’s a strange one, I would ideally like to move him to a different scouts group (not sure if this is even possible?) but this group does the parades at our local congregation so I would not like to cause any friction by moving him. I’d love to hear opinions on this, also maybe opinions on the stocks and burnt out van at the scouts camp - is this a normal feature on these pitches? Thanks for reading

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Toomanywaterwipes · 25/01/2023 12:36

budgiegirl · 25/01/2023 11:30

When mine were in beavers I found it difficult as they have allergies and asthma. Despite filling out page upon page of offical medical info forms for every trip they weren't adequately supervised in this regard eg part of the form asks 'do they need assistance with taking medication'? I used answer 'yes', but this assistance/supervision never happened, ever. Pointless forms really

As a cub leader, this would worry me, to be honest. Are you saying that you provided medication for trips/camps and forms stating the dosages/times for taking it, and it wasn't ever given to your child? If so, this isn't acceptable at all. On all camps/trips, we have a nominated first aider, who holds all medicines and forms, and they must ensure that medication is taken at the relevant times/dosages. The administration of the medicines must be witnessed, and both leaders sign to say this has been done.

If this isn't happening at your group, I would say that it's not unreasonable at all to raise this as a concern.

That sounds like a great set-up!

No, nothing like this was happening in our local group unfortunately, not even close from my experience. I did relay my concerns to the leader who just said I should mention the medication issues to the person in charge when we arrived at the various camps. (I had of course been doing this anyway.) I really doubt anyone was looking at the paperwork- they can't have been.

The DC don't attend any more.

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